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[奧運/跨性別/蒐集討論]
偷偷說河道感覺超級支持跨性別運動的
東奧舉重》奧運史上首位變性人運動員 哈伯德抓舉全失敗遭淘汰 - 自由體育
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ಠ_ಠ - 跨性別選手Laurel Hubbard,將於今晚女子舉重87公斤以上量級登場,屆時跨性別議題...這裡說中國金牌選手超強,原女應該對自己對一點自信
嗯……中國……可能真的百萬裡挑一,挑出來的生理女都能長出男性肌肉骨架絕對不是青春期餵藥……吧
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ಠ_ಠ - 原來那個紐西蘭跨女舉重選手竟然沒有動變性手術 只是吃藥保持低激素來比賽的 這就太過了吧…… ...
這噗應該是錯的,目前就現有資訊該選手三十歲左右動了性別重置手術
不過奧運的規範確實不要求跨女動手術,只要監控一年的睪固酮濃度即可
睪固酮標準是男性的低標,女性的超高標
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Laurel Hubbard - Wikipedia

對比一下他之前的紀錄
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Competing before coming out as transgender, Hubbard set New Zealand junior records in 1998 in the newly established M105+ division with snatch 135 kg, clean & jerk 170 kg, total 300 kg.
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At the 2017 Australian International & Australian Open in Melbourne, she competed at the heaviest 90 kg+ category, winning the gold medal with a 123 kg snatch and 145 kg clean & jerk, for a total of 268 kg at a bodyweight of 131.83 kg.
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In 2020, she won the gold medal in the women's +87 kg event at the Roma 2020 World Cup in Rome, Italy.
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奧運史上首位變性人哈伯德,今在女子87公斤級以上賽事出賽,成為全場焦點,可惜她抓舉三次都失敗,提前遭淘汰,奧運之旅畫下句點。

哈伯德今在抓舉開把重量120公斤失敗,之後將重量調整至125公斤,卻連續兩次都沒能成功。
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去年一月的世界盃比賽還有126公斤的金牌紀錄。
到底是真的體能刷退呢,還是反對聲浪造成壓力不敢贏?
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https://images.plurk.com/5nzPaRB7e2OSfJKilVkYTf.jpg 2016年的選手成績
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我是這噗的餅乾,查證完覺得新聞不知道在寫什麼,東加選手好好的代表東加參賽了啊
人家本屆東奧排第八名
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S.F.'s Kuinini
這個報導說明東加選手的參賽資格本來被哈柏德擠下去了(因為大洋洲的區域賽事),後來右翼媒體激烈報導此事以後,東加選手獲得了額外的參賽機會。我查到的兩份報導都偏左派,表示很不認同右派炒作東加選手失去參賽資格。
嗯……原來在大洋洲真的早就爭論好久了,只是沒到奧運其他國家沒有注意到。
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A Sydney station noted on Monday that Tracey Lumbrechs, who previously won a bronze medal winner at Commonwealth Games, dropped to a lower weight class to avoid the situation.

Laurel Hubbard, transgender athlete, crushes female ...
本來跟哈柏德同量級的紐西蘭舉重選手Tracey Lumbrechs減重試圖爭取代表紐西蘭參賽,她成功參加了2017跟2018的國際賽事。
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Weightlifting: Kiwi lifter Tracey Lambrechs drops mo...
"At first I wasn't very open to it, but it was either that or retire… and I'm not ready for that. To drop 17-18kg was challenging, and I hadn't been challenged like that in a long time."
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她能減到九十公斤以下參加大英國協運動會已經很厲害了,不過奧運要七十五公斤以下才能避開跟哈柏德同量級。
每個舉重比賽分的量級都差好多喔。
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Transgender lifter who beat Samoan woman sparks cont...
薩摩亞立場的報導
She lifted 268kgs  and was almost 20kg better than the runner-up, Samoan athlete luniarra Sipaia.
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ಠ_ಠ - 我看不懂這噗 變性真的可以讓男性的優勢完全被彌平嗎?
奧運現行規定不要求性別重置手術,不要求!不要求!不要求!
只有要求賀爾蒙治療。
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Joanna Harper is a competitive runner, scientist, transgender woman and medical physicist at the Providence Portland Medical Center who advised the IOC. She argues that the use of estrogen supplements and testosterone blockers (or physical castration via sex reassignment surgery) cause a decrease in muscle mass and oxygen-carrying red blood cells,
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and that this leads to a decrease in strength, speed, and endurance.
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According to Harper, every athlete has advantages and disadvantages. The greater height that a transgender woman may have gained before transitioning may be an advantage on the basketball court but it is likely to be disadvantageous to a gymnast.
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東京奧運:位於話題中心的跨性別舉重選手哈伯德 - BBC News 中文「拉夫堡大學的哈珀(Joanna Harper)是一名跨性別女性,她幫助了目前國際奧委會的政策成形。

哈珀認為,目前不能確定跨性別女性在重量相同的情況下一定比順性別(cis gender)女性強壯,雖然經過激素治療後,跨性別女性平均看來比順性別女性更高、體型更大、更強壯,這些在許多運動中都是優勢,但「我們允許在運動中取得優勢,不允許的是壓倒性優勢」。

她指出,舉重運動中按照重量不同區別級別,而與哈伯德競爭的女性「都是體型非常大的女性」。」
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she published the first study of transgender athletes' performances, finding that transgender women who received treatment to lower their testosterone levels did no better in a variety of races against female peers than they had previously done against male runners.
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Although Harper's study included only a few transgender women, Eric Vilain of The George Washington University in Washington, D.C., a geneticist who specializes in gender-based biology, calls it "groundbreaking."
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That work helped make Harper an unpaid adviser for sporting bodies, such as the International Olympic Committee (IOC), that are wrestling with transgender issues and other matters of gender.
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Although Harper has just a master's degree, she is helping spearhead several studies documenting how the physiology and performance of transgender athletes change as they make their transition.
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Harper may not have the traditional pedigree of a scientist, Vilain says, but "her approach is highly respected."
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我覺得國際奧會真的蠻垃圾的,目前看來他們一點都不在乎女性運動賽事。
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