遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
[DA2][遊戲劇情][有雷]
如果DA2有導演/編劇剪輯版的話。查了一下Dragon Age的關鍵字,結果噗浪上似乎沒討論。 或者我根本找錯關鍵字了
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Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
關鍵字應該都是DA?
遊 風
3 years ago
historyemily: 但我沒找到有人在討論XDD
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
喔喔喔XDDD
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Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
是說我也漏掉這篇新聞,等等來看
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
節錄裡面可能出現的情節:
First, either restore the progressive changes to Kirkwall we'd planned over the passing of in-game years or reduce the time between acts to months instead of years... which, in hindsight, probably should have been done as soon as the progressive stuff was cut.

把章節進度回復,如果原本一幕就是一年的話,被跳過的應該要加回來,或是改成一幕是幾個月。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
I'm sure you're like "get rid of repeated levels!" ...but I don't care about that. All I wanted was for Kirkwall to feel like a bigger city. Way more crowded. More alive! Fewer blood mages.

讓K城更有存在感更大,更有人生活在裡面,少一點血法師。 (原版血法師大概跟巷口便利商店數量一樣多)
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
I'd want to restore the plot where a mage Hawke came THIS close to becoming an abomination. An entire story spent trapped in one's own head while trapped on the edge of possession.

Why? Because Hawke is the only mage who apparently never struggles with this. It was a hard cut.

讓主角受到誘惑與掙扎,再變成憎惡的邊緣。 (現行版本主角光環開太大了)
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
I'd want to restore all those alternate lines we cut, meaning people forget they'd met you. Or that they knew you were a mage. Or, oh god, that maybe they'd romanced you in DAO. So much carnage.
更有真實感。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
I'd want to restore the Act 3 plots we cut only because they were worked on too late, but which would have made the buildup to the mage/templar clash less sudden.

Though I don't remember what they were, now. Some never got beyond being index cards posted on the wall.

讓第三幕更完整,讓法環與騎士團的衝突全面爆發不要那麼突兀。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
As I mentioned elsewhere, I'd want to restore Orsino's end battle so he wouldn't need to turn on you even if you sided with him.

恢復法環之主的Boss戰

And I'd want an end fight with the templars that didn't require Meredith to have red lyrium and go full Tetsuo.

沒有入魔的騎士團長版本。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
Heck, maybe an end decision where you sided with neither the mages nor the templars. Because it certainly ended up feeling like you could brand both sides as batshit pretty legitimately, no?

That was never planned, tho. No idea how to make that feel like an actual path atm.

或者,不支持兩者之一,而選擇作為第三方勢力。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
Maybe an option to go "umm, Anders... what are you DOING?
歡樂版的Hawke,絕對會問出這句
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
And, of course, a Varric romance, because Mary took that "slimy car salesman" character we'd planned and did the impossible with him. I can feel Mary glaring at me for even suggesting this, tho.

大夥表示,最重要的竟然被剪了,還我Varric的羅曼史。
遊 風
3 years ago
Lastly, the original expanded opening to the game which allowed you to spend time with Bethany and Carver BEFORE the darkspawn attacked.

多一點的家庭時光。
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
Shit, I remembered two more things:

1) Restore the "Varric exaggerates the heck out of the story" at the beginning of every Act, until Cassandra calls him on it. Yes, that was a thing.
讓Varric誇大每一幕的開頭,直到卡姐抓到她說謊ww
遊 風
3 years ago
2) Make DA: Exodus. Yes, I am still bitter.
God damn it, I meant "Make DA: Exalted March". The DA2 expansion, NOT Exodus since that was DA2's original name and makes no sense.

Because the expansion ended with Varric dying, and that will always be on my "things left undone" list.

做"榮耀征討",DA2的資料片。(應該是第三次的聖戰就是了)
DA2的原名是 Exodus,看來Hawkes是摩西(X)
遊 風
3 years ago
以上內容是DA系列故事主筆以及背景構成Davide Gaider的推特文,僅表示某種DA2的可能。
遊 風
3 years ago
不過這版本好想玩啊XDD
遊 風
3 years ago
一直覺得DA2算是CRPG往ARPG的轉換之中算滿成功的一個,撇開劇情上因為時間壓縮與製程上的問題,還有場景重複利用到只要進幾次就知道敵人會刷在哪裡的問題,DA 2 算是成功的遊戲,雖然夥伴多數塑造滿扁平的,某方面來說比DAI好玩一點。
遊 風
3 years ago
這篇還滿多遊戲媒體網站有發文的,看來DA系列的影響力還是不小。
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
原來塑造扁平不是我的錯覺
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
historyemily: 除了Varric之外我覺得通通不及格啊,Anders明明就可以接著起源的寫法繼續但就壞了。我覺得Arishok在短短的出場時間內都還比多數的夥伴角色好。
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
我雖然不討厭Fenris和Anders但是覺得他們的被寫得太單一了(但是好像很多粉絲很吃這種single minded的類型),我雖然偏愛Merill但是也一直覺得她的故事好像有一大段被砍掉,有些行為動機不足的感覺
遊 風
3 years ago @Edit 3 years ago
Isebella就Isabella,隨心所欲完全捉摸不定,但稍微好一點的是不是典型的女性角色,Aveline就女騎士樣板,Sebastian 這王子根本就...單純來補弓箭手位置的。
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
我印想中Kirkwall被寫成容易讓人發瘋或是聚集一些妖魔鬼怪的風水寶地(←)?
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
總之當初玩的時候看到類似的設定就想,所以在Kirkwall的人會做出的行為可能都比較極端這樣,但是這種設定會讓角色的agency降低
遊 風
3 years ago
假設Kirkwall是建立在red lyrium遺留礦脈之上與通往Deep Road的必經之路上,受影響的可能性很大,大家都很極端也是很合理的。 拿顆石頭路上隨便丟,都可以丟到血法師XD
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
XDDD
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
簡單來說Kirkwall的設定給我便宜行事的感覺吧
遊 風
3 years ago
historyemily: 對,畢竟砍了太多可以補充的文本或是根本來不及寫。我倒是真的對砍掉的資料片Exalted Marches 怨念很深就是了XD 有了那個劇情承先啟後比較完整,也可以看到幾個勢力糾纏在一起的結果。
Kenz
3 years ago
的確我二代玩法師覺得主角除了家人遇險的情節外,他的成長路實在太順遂了,完全沒有處在風口浪尖的緊張感ww 雖然對我來說沒那麼有代入感,不過主角的嘲諷台詞卻是三代中寫得最好的,DAI的主角就沒那麼有個性。
他說的這些都是能讓大眾心中的失敗作翻盤成佳作啊!!沒能實現太可惜了。要是未來有機會重置,又能加入這些元素的話,絕對能吸引到我重玩(抱歉亂入了XD
遊 風
3 years ago
kenzie716: 歡迎!Hawke的嘲諷臺詞出色到,只要看到笑臉面具選項就會反射的點下去的程度,先看完再讀檔回來。 而且預設的Hawke應該也是血法師(至少預告CG跟三代出場的時候看起來是),但故事劇情竟然沒有針對這點去多做強化,是滿可惜的。
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
我一刷玩血法師整個愛上這個技能XDD 動作+特效太中二帥
Kenz
3 years ago
michaelnity: 我一開始也是先看完嘲諷再讀檔回去選好人台詞,不過一陣子發現沒懲罰機制後,就自我放飛全選笑臉了。不過我當時好像太晚切換了,一開始選太多Diplomatic選項,導致後來選再多諷刺都無法變成Humorous的人格,就只能用很溫柔的聲音開玩笑,有種很微妙的感覺XDD
Kenz
3 years ago
是說好像不只噗浪上沒討論,我剛剛到reddit上晃一圈也只看到一篇討論Snyder cut的,底下還沒幾個人回覆,不知道二代是單純討論熱度降了,還是國外一堆人都直接跳過二代玩三代XD"
Kenz
3 years ago
michaelnity: historyemily: 我前陣子玩完二代有試著在噗浪搜尋過,不過那時候沒找到什麼同好,本來都絕望了的,今天就看到兩位,超開心的>////< (感謝友人轉噗
Fudgemobemily
3 years ago
kenzie716: 很高興認識新朋友~期待ME重製版出了一起嗨XD
Kenz
3 years ago
historyemily: 天!!是好珍貴的ME同好 到時候可以一起聊了ww
遊 風
3 years ago
kenzie716: 同好!熱烈歡迎! 我是玩很多歐美系遊戲但是很少發心得,不過很愛參與討論, 然後感興趣的消息就會像這樣發一串,但不習慣上tag XD
紫臉女Hawke對白真是史上最佳主角之一XDDD
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