[雜聊/世界巡]
記得前陣子有個噗在討論台灣巡替卡的Phantom
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偷拍不好,不要偷拍

我真的是...昨天才第一次開場刊來看...
昨天第二次地震在搖的時候,看到南非卡的Christine-Robin Botha,我他媽氣到瘋掉......

然後往下看一眼............

幹咧.........................................
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是神仙............................................
台巡有第三個遺憾了救命.....................................
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媽的法克是活生生的Ian Jon Bourg............................
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韓巡的替卡就是他...以資歷來說台灣應該也是...
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前陣子貼過一堆他的照片,然後沒想到他有在來台名單裡,我的眼睛是長在哪裡
幹ㄚ那個箭頭好諷刺
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世界巡他有跟很多隻C搭檔到
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在菲律賓跟大天使Clara Verdier
Ian Jon Bourg & Clara Verdier: The First Lair((雖然貼這個但不建議聽,有手機震動又有咳嗽又有一堆怪聲
Ian Jon Bourg, Clara Verdier, Matt Leisy: PONR/Final...
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韓巡跟Caitlin Finnie
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Ian Jon Bourg & Meghan Picerno: The First Lair照理來說也是世界巡時間段,跟女神Meghan Picerno
這場他倆搭檔好棒嗚哇哇哇
他們的聲音跟我理想的EC好接近嗚哇
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跟Claire Lyon
他倆2013在泰國就有搭檔過
Point of No Return - Ian Jon Bourg & Claire Lyon
他就是POTO圈裡活生生的傳奇啊
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很久以前看過他的訪談,他對於Erik的解讀讓我永生難忘...
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Ian Jon Bourg一開始出演的角色是André
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他說演André比演Phantom更累XDDDDD
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筆記個
How did you research the role of André? What's your perspective on his character?
The research part is hard because a lot of the characters don't exist in the original book or they exist in a different way. You have to figure out who meshed with whom. The managers are pretty straight-forward in who they are, I think.
And they also cast it differently. [But] the way the two people react and the way it's written make it pretty clear who is who and who's concerned about what.
André is much more effete and much more artistic. The art is his concern and that's why he is in the business - definitely not for the business - and Firmin is obviously...it's an investment perhaps.
I don't have any idea how these guys ended up together. But somehow they did and they formed this partnership that seems to work well. The person who needs to handle the artistic stuff - which would be André - does, and the person who needs to handle the business - Firmin - does.
So they sort of cover all the bases. And they still manage to get along, partly because what they do and what their interests are, are clearly defined [and] they are not really stepping on each other's toes.
Is it difficult to get the comedic timing down, working with Firmin?
No. In some ways it's easy because part of the comedy of it is that - and [this] depends on who I'm playing it with - Firmin is basically clueless. He only has the one concern about the tickets, the business and how it's run.
All this other stuff that happens after that is just what's happening at the Opera House and he's totally out of his element in dealing with prima donnas and everything else. And it's easy to act off of that: as the person who is more concerned, but who still needs Firmin's help. And the fact that Firmin is so out of touch has its own comedy to it.
Do you find it physically tiring?
No. I am very lucky in that respect. It doesn't bother me. It's not hard and it's not tiring. In some ways, André's role is more tiring.
In what sense?
I have to sing more. I'm running around a bit more. I do have down time as André, which is fine. But for some reason it is more tiring for me. My interpretation of André requires a certain level of energy - a somewhat excited personality.
The Phantom has his whole manic thing too, and whole emotional thing. But André's excitability is more tiring, just to keep that up.
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啊還有一張
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2006德卡(Hamburg & Stuttgart)的正Erik
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Phantom的訪談太長了,簡略節錄討論
訪談的Phantom部分
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覺得全世界都應該看一下Ian的論點
看第二次第三次還是好感動
不知道該怎麼下筆
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One thing we don't see in the musical is that there is social contact. People know who he is; what he does.

He's not yet a madman.
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很喜歡Ian描述Erik是如何循序漸進變的瘋狂
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He's still maintaining that he has created a life for himself.

Now the thing that has come into it is Christine Daaé as a vehicle for his music, which is what he talks about.
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還有Erik如何試圖以音樂建立自己在世界上的立足點
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There is an inherent sexuality and eroticism, but I don't find it to be all about that.

And I don't find it to be all about be a psychotic, angry person, because he's obviously not.
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Ian並不聚焦在Erik異於常人的那面,而是他身為常人卻沒辦法滿足的部分,那些最基本的生理、情感需求
He talks a lot about - and he's obviously very concerned about his music - the opera that he's writing. Even in the book he talks about that being his big achievement. Now, that's his real focus and what he wants to do and accomplish. Once he's finished with that finally, he will have finished something - in a way, his life.
音樂是Erik的語言,是他跨越所有基本需求,直接達到自我實現目的的手段,也是他活在世界上唯一會被認可並留下的痕跡
And when Raoul is introduced into that, he's not in control anymore.

He's been so in control of his life and [this] becomes so disturbing and so jarring, it prevents him from having her fulfill this whole opera/music thing.

He starts to crack.
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Raoul作為Erik行為轉折的起爆劑,以及其影響,意料之外奪去Erik對人生僅有的部分控制權
In some ways he's back in control, although he lost control enough to kill someone.
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藉由殺戮達到恐嚇作用,並拉回Erik所認為的正軌
The real challenge is to get somebody to feel sorry for someone who is obviously a real psychotic serial killer - which he's become.
It's easy to portray the Phantom as the psychotic, angry man; I don't think that's what he is all about.

He has those moments, but I try to show those moments distinct from where he genuinely and deeply is and wants to be, instead of being that angry person all the time.
(先留著)
接下來就是我當初迷上POTO的原因。
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Based on his life and what he says later in the final lair, Erik doesn't know from sex...
When he says "That fate which condemns me to wallow in blood has also denied me the joys of the flesh..." to me it could mean two things, both or either/or, he has never been with anyone sexually, or that he is impotent.
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性無能與否大家吵得好兇,我不敢亂講
解讀成沒有性經驗應該是共識
不過性無能的論點也很有趣,就Erik的年齡、過去工作經歷可能有過的傷害、對自我認同感的缺乏導致的精神因素,都有可能吧
討論這種東西有需要上紅標ㄇ...?
It doesn't mean that he doesn't know how to be sensual.

It doesn't mean that he doesn't know how to be sensual.

It doesn't mean that he doesn't know how to be sensual.
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開玩笑歌劇院就是個大型炮房,他每天跑來跑去一定天天在看啊((喂
But it does come through his music and his commitment to the idea of what that is, and because he doesn't have that sexual component in his life.
It's all about, or so he tells us - and he tells us in a very sensual and erotic way - it's all about his music.

When Christine becomes the vehicle for that music, that adds a physical dimension to it.
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這段真的是...
Erik的音樂包裹著什麼
究竟是他有意為之還是
But if it's just about sex, I wouldn't find it very interesting.
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哎呀
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PONR

Yeah. Not only does he need his opera performed as the culmination of his work and life, he needs to go that final step and perform it with her.

In some ways you can see it - and I'm not a psychologist - it's like that music is the surrogate to the whole sexual component in his life.
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他的音樂部分來說就是抒發性欲的替代品
That's how he expresses himself physically. And so this opera means a great, great deal.

It would be like having sex, but it is not having sex; he doesn't know what that is.

he doesn't know what that is.

he doesn't know what that is.
我真的
超喜歡
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Ian把Erik在PONR中焦躁的表現,解釋成他並不懂自己當下湧出的感受
What do you think is the special appeal of Phantom to the audience?
It's a couple of things. People obviously relate to the heartbreak and the whole lost, unfulfilled love. Just about anybody can relate to that, can see themselves in that position. And a lot of people can relate to being the social outcast in some way, if only a small way.
Certainly very few people can relate to it the way it affects the Phantom. A lot of people have felt outcast, alone, and put down; and even in a small way, that can be crippling. And so they relate to that. And if you combine the whole lost love aspect and the outcast aspect it can be extremely powerful.
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訪問全文在這邊

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沒衝到最崇拜的Erik足以讓我再低落個一陣子
IJB, VK, RP - The Final Lair他的情緒張力好震撼
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十指...!!!交扣...!!!
在Final Lair十指交扣...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
握緊再甩開...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Valentina的走位超美的
Ian的make your choice超淡然...也太紳士了吧......
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先無力的在婚紗邊哭泣,音樂盒才隨之響起
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無助地隨著樂聲回頭張望
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絕望....
啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊
好美
我腦袋轉不動了
啊啊啊
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I love you連Christine的臉都不敢看啊啊啊啊啊啊
Ian的大黑椅也太棒了吧...不斷回頭又回頭...
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最後無力的癱在椅子上的動作好絕望.........................
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Ian Jon Bourg & Colby Thomas - Music of the night/Th...EC一起唱Music of the night跟Think of me也太蘇了吧哇啊啊啊啊啊

救命咧哇啊啊啊啊啊啊啊好棒啊等等Colby太棒了吧哇啊啊啊那個合聲哇嗷嗷
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EC看著對方唱
You alone can make my song take flight
Help me make the music of the night
CP廚簡直別無所求
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Ian & Colby
當初就是因為德卡才一頭栽進alw POTO,德卡分分鐘使人意圖往生
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發出羨慕的聲音
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連續兩天只睡三小時大挑戰
Ian好棒…… 動作好瀟灑好好看但是感情好依依不捨… 那個 還戒指之後的伸手、幾乎整個人抱上猴子等等的都好棒… 好像前面的瀟灑是在掩飾一樣、最後一段對著婚紗唱也超棒……
訪問的解釋好棒!!! 兩個角色都好想看
final lair那段真的把killer的控制跟Erik的情感混合得好好… (不會誇
zvafqrewqq:
忍不住。
在這裡偷誇誇阿D的現場心得好棒((搖晃
電腦開著拿著零嘴沙士看阿D實況((可怕
看過Final lair之後更想看他的Phantom現場

覺得他的終曲隨著跟C的衝突加劇,反而逐漸卸下前兩小時所積累的瘋狂,看著C不再忍受開始反擊,像是有些畏縮一般顯得越來越無力,他的make you choice聽起來好像都放棄希望了

就就就很呼應他自己說的除了瘋狂外,Phantom還有其他的面向在(???
哇啊謝謝NR喜歡!! 不可怕啊!! 吃好喝好開心的看!!
真的QQ 好想看其他部分是怎麼演繹 也好想感受他現場的演出喔QQQQ
感覺他的暴躁(?)還有點不知所措的感覺 好像一直在質問又得不到解答(?)…他的演出真的好多感情好棒><(又看一次
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