"We are looking for women in the former Soviet republics because, logically, they have to be from poorer places than our clients. I have not met a single woman with a good economic situation who has decided to go through this process out of kindness, because she thinks she has enough children and wants to help someone else who wants them," he says.

"They do it because they need the money to buy a house, for their children's education. If you have a good life in Europe, you're not going to do it."

Pechenoha says he doesn't understand why the business is prohibited in much of the world.

"No one forces these women to do it. They do it freely, and with informed consent. And we don't give babies to women who don't have them themselves because, for example, they don't want to ruin their bodies or things like that.

We only give them to those couples made up of a man and a woman, married, who prove that they can't have children. We don't do it, like other countries, for homosexual couples. So I don't understand what the problem is," he says.

「我們比較善良，不像某些國家還提供代孕服務給同性戀，所以哪裡有問題？」

底下還有一個案例是代孕第二胎，因為她領著烏克蘭的最低薪資但要照顧三個小孩，大女兒反對她繼續代孕