AmberCadabra PLURKSHOP: Social Media dialogue across multiple channels: managing and learning from it. I'm kicking us off a bit early...

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  June 30, 2008 at 00:26 AmberCadabra For easiest following, open the Plurk Page link on the bottom right of this window, and open in a new tab
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:26 templestark ok, i'm here, drink in hand.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:27 AmberCadabra Also a quick note: connie has smartly started us a Plurkshop account for easier hosting in future.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:27 Tim Jackson Howdy Amber!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:27 AmberCadabra To follow future plurkshops, be sure and follow "Plurkshops" timeline
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:27 Teeg says Great idea, Connie!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 AmberCadabra Hi Tim and templestark, glad to have you!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 MackCollier says gonna tweet it! Guys make sure your followers know
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 Beth Harte says Hi ambercadabra!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 ConnieinDenver says TIP: you may have to manually refresh this page if you're viewing in a separate tab. But it's much easier to keep up with this way.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 seerysm says smart! but it is sort of fun having someone host it each time. Sort of like a group taking turns meeting at each others houses
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 LindaZ hello amber, nice to meet you
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:28 mleis says what's the url?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:29 templestark says connie is smart. Great idea.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 NotAMeanGrinch Hey there. I'm here
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 Tim Jackson Yes, Connie's a smart dame. Amber's up there too...
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 AmberCadabra Hi everyone! The url for tonight's plurkshop is www.plurk.com/p/v4rf
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 ConnieinDenver says seerysm We will still have someone different host it each time, but easier to have it in one location. We will give host the acct password.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 Teeg plurkshops
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 ConnieinDenver says says We are also going to cross timezones and spread them out so our UK and Aussie friends (and others) can join more conveniently.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:30 Teeg says nope, without the "s" connie??
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:31 templestark says dang seerysm has a good point too. Still there can always be one person to take hosting "duties."
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:31 ConnieinDenver says no, it's just plurkshop
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:31 MackCollier says so comments comments everywhere, good or bad?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:31 AmberCadabra sorry, that was my typo
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:31 emsgeiss says Hi everyone!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 ThoughtWrong is here
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 AmberCadabra Thanks for kicking us off, Mack!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 servantofchaos says Connie timezones are always tricky for me ... this works nicely!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 MackCollier says sorry didnt mean to hijack out of the gate
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 ConnieinDenver says I think fragmentation is inevitable and we might as well embrace it. Community trumps control.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:32 lizstrauss says Hiya guys! MackCollier, It's hard to keep track . . . so much time just finding them.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 Beth Harte says hi mleis, nice to meet another local!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 Tim Jackson Glad to see so many faces already.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 servantofchaos says I used to use CoComment to try and track my own comments, but it kept failing -- now I am out of the habit
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 ConnieFoggles says Hello! Nice to meet you!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 AmberCadabra mackcollier don't be silly. Hijack away. I'm just the thread starter.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 mleis asks Who cares where? As long as they get back w/o killing me
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 MackCollier says i can see both sides....i want people to be able to leave feedback whereever they want
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 Rachel says sorry I'm late
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 seerysm says I used co.mment for awhile to try and aggregate some comment and discussion threads
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 Tim Jackson Yes, I mostly use Goodle Alerts and Technorati.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 TerenceChang says what now?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:33 ConnieinDenver says lizstrauss we have to keep developing and using new tools to track the conversation, but the genie is out of the bottle, in my opinion.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:34 Tim Jackson I know there are better ways, but those work well enough.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:34 MackCollier says but on flipside, fragmented feedback can lessen chances for a convo to develop if feedback was centralized
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:34 Tim Jackson Yes- finding them all is going to be impossible.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:34 Tim Jackson There is something about the hunt though.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 MackCollier says for example, what if we all committed to blog about this topic today, instead of meet here? the fragmented feeback wont match convo here
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 servantofchaos says TimJackson ... yes I rely on Google alerts and Technorati too ... but they dont keep all the threads together
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 AmberCadabra Hate to keep using Chris as an example, but he mentioned this yesterday on his blog.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 Rachel says as someone with limited time and a LOT I need to follow, fragmentation increases the chance I miss something important.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 MsHerr says re: comments ... good to thread them w/ the content the refer to & comments are convo facilitators
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 momtrepreneur thinks u should just host a plurkshop on talkshoe
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 Tim Jackson Correct Gavin.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 ConnieinDenver asks MackCollier the $64K question: how can you centralize feedback?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 AmberCadabra A bunch of comments moved to FriendFeed and he missed them
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 seerysm says I know rely on google alerts - but have found no real clean way to organize. But I want the interaction, no matter where it takes place
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 LindaZ is it not easier to see it all with the new search tool
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 templestark says always wanted software to track my comments everywhere. comment when something stirs ya or to help friends.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 ggroovin says sup? How's this thing sposed to work?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 MackCollier says Connie what do you think about the plugins that pull Friendfeed comments and put them back on your blog?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:35 MsHerr says and aggregation sometimesleads to disjointed or tangental convos that lose relevance to the initial content
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:36 lizstrauss says connie I so agree that we never could control the conversation. Now it just feels like we're supposed to follow all of it.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:36 MackCollier says I think its a tradeoff, you want people to be able to have their say where THEY want, but fragmentation lessens chance for conversation
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:36 AmberCadabra ggroovin however you like! Feel free to read, listen, and jump in wherever.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:36 ConnieinDenver says ggroovin Plurkshop is group chat about single topic. If you keep this convo open in separate tab, easier to follow. Chime in when ready.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:36 Herb shares in FF, auto reload this page every xx seconds
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 emsgeiss says I use google alerts & technorati too and serph, which I just discovered
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 templestark says tangents are death to many good conversations. so something like this with a frame of mind set at beginning seems useful
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 AmberCadabra spinopsys that's a great tool for Twitter, but what happens when comments start branching off to other sites?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 Tim Jackson Mack- good point, but I really enjoy tracking people down and commenting in their turf. It feels natural.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 emsgeiss says but I don't think serph picks up technorati yet
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:37 MackCollier says for example, one night Kr8tr posted a link to a blog post of his, asking for comments, Scoble told everyone instead to comment on it @FF
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 LindaZ would the hashtags and surmize work on plurks too?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 seerysm says downside: Part of what's great about group convo is what's learned from each other - when convo happens in multiple places context gets lost
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 MsHerr thinks the contextual linkage/fragmentation questions also raises the question about cross-posting
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 servantofchaos says I did a search the other day on Addictomatic and found all these conversations ABOUT me that I was not part of!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 ConnieinDenver following Mack's thought, then it helps to have something like this plurkshop where we have a central place for comments at least for a time
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 MackCollier says Rob wanted the conversation on HIS blog, Scoble tried to 'hijack' it to Friendfeed
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 Teeg says one problem with blogs (and reason people are posting other places) comes down to who owns the comments...commenter or blogger?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 LindaZ I agree wit seerysm... better if it is all in one place but I understand that is not always possible
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 momtrepreneur feels like this is already giving me a headache
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:38 MackCollier says Rob got mad cause Scoble was trying to move the conversation, but I could kinda see where Scoble had the right to try to have it on FF
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 templestark says loves hash tags but keeps on forgetting to use them on Twitter.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 Tim Jackson For example, I tracked down Spinospsys through Technorati and over the past 3+ years we've become friends as well.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 AmberCadabra Gavin, that's exactly the hard part. Tracking down what's being said in an organized fashion and following up with all of it
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 emsgeiss says LindaZ, I don't know if surmize picks up plurks..I haven't seen any of mine over there anyway
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 MackCollier says Prob is, what if someone is active on Friendfeed, and finds your blog post there, and doesnt read your blog, if they can comment there...
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 Teeg MackCollier that was the discussion that really hit on who owns the comment though...Socble asked Rob to remove his comments, Rob denied
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 MackCollier says it could expose them to your blog
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 seerysm says over the last year, my interaction is more often on Twitter/Plurk - less on my blog - so those not there are left out of the discussions
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:39 servantofchaos says Teeg you still dont really own the conversation even if it is on FF
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:40 ConnieinDenver Disagree w/ Scoble, agree w/ Mack & Tim - commenting on *their* turf is important. I love comments on my blog, even tho I enjoy this too.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:40 AmberCadabra I prefer to comment where the conversation originates (or at least where I find it), but organizing them all is a bitch.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:40 Rachel says I really do not care who "owns" the comments or the content, I just want to be able to find out wtf is going on.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:40 MackCollier says Connie maybe what we need to figure out is where ppl can most easily comment on our content, and encourage it there?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 MackCollier says Maybe its our blog, or could be here, or Twitter, or friendfeed
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 ConnieinDenver LOL Rachel's practicality. Good point. It's frustrating.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 Teeg says you can actually delete your comments off FF though. Scoble had commented on the blog until he and Rob got upset with each other.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 emsgeiss says blog comments are good...b/c then you can respond to a comment directly
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 Tim Jackson part of my "job" in building community is to go out into that community. Then they will come to my parties too.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 ConnieinDenver plays devil's advocate. Who says we *have* to follow the conversation everywhere it goes? Especially since we don't "own" it?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 MackCollier says BTW Amber you topped 100 replies in 15 mins
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 servantofchaos says comments without context are not all that valuable. That is where blogs are great
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:41 Teeg is trying Disqus right now, heard rumors it will interact with FF at some point. That would be nice.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 Charlie asks why people get worried about comment ownership? isn't that where "famous quotes" come from... what is said?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 emsgeiss says AmberCadbra...I totally agree- prefer to comment at originating site
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 AmberCadabra I encourage peeps to comment on my blog because it's easier for me to keep in touch, but maybe that's selfish.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 emsgeiss says MackCollier's our official statistician
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 emsgeiss says
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 MackCollier says Gavin I think blogs have 'deeper' comments, we have time to reflect and better form our thoughts
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:42 Rachel says I prefer comments to happen on the site of origin, yes
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 Tim Jackson I know that the time to do this is getting shorter w/ all the things on my plate, but the rewards have been many.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 MackCollier says Ericka
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 seerysm says it is similar to what you have to consider to get conversions on your site, every click they have to make, the less likely they are going to
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 Teeg says it was already splintered. I'm much more likely to comment on SU than on someone's blog unless I know them anyway.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 MackCollier says Crap Erika! Sorry about the 'c'
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 AmberCadabra Let me ask a tangential question. If you're a company and you're trying to do rep management, what's the best way to listen ?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 ConnieinDenver Wish I could star Gavin's last comment (servantofchaos)
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 emsgeiss says AmberCadabra, I don't think it's selfish, it makes sense...I like it when there are mult. streams of dialog, but "beef" of disc. is @ blog
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:43 seerysm says if someone has a thought about ur blog post I want them to easily be able to do that where they want at their convenience - it is up to them
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 Rachel says Tim, yes, me too. I need to stay involved & gain trust. I can't do that if I can't find the party.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 AzWebDude is ok so someone explain PLurk..how this works btw MsHerr sent me here
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 templestark says likes comments at his blog(s) because then I havebetter hope the context is correct.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 emsgeiss says np MackCollier
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 servantofchaos asks is all this conversation pointless without a destination? If we are engaging with conversation, is there is an objective other than buzz?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 ConnieinDenver AmberCadabra reputation monitoring: develop so many Google alerts that you finally give up & use a company like Radian6 (lebrun here).
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 Tim Jackson I am in favor of the conversation staying in one spot, but let's face it- isn't going to. Again, this goes back to the notion of control.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 Rachel says Amber - when you find out please let me know!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:44 MackCollier says AzWebDude why dont you ask that question in a different thread?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:45 nwjerseyliz is finding Plurk and finding people on it incomprehensible
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:45 MackCollier says Tim should we try to 'move' it via blog plugins?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:45 emsgeiss says templestark....hopefully though, when ppl post link to blog, it gets followed b4 commenting @ 2ndary site begins...kinda like "RTFA" ?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:45 Teeg wonders if FF just brought it out in the open that the conversation ISN'T at one spot? It actually hasn't been for years.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:45 MsHerr says timjackson raises a good point about reciprocity. if we want others to play w/ us, we need play w/ them too. but it needs to be authentic.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 ggroovin says tho I'm not a blogger, I do think if I were & comments to my original thots weren't left on my blog I might have one less reason to continue
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 AmberCadabra I'm going to start a plurk help thread over yonder
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 seerysm says we can't control readers, and they want content portability, even the comment content - they want to read and respond where/when they want
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 ConnieinDenver AzWebDude Easiest if you open this conversation in a separate tab so it scrolls vertically. www.plurk.com/p/v4rf
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 Teeg agrees with seerysm, was thinking the same thing
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:46 ggroovin says if someone wants to take my thots & start a conversation elsewhere, as long as I get credit & a reference that'd be OK.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 nwjerseyliz is finding that there are more comments than she can read, constantly refreshing and playing catch-up
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 Tim Jackson Amber, I try to listen every way I can. Google searches, Technorati, etc. I try it all. It is not efficient, but I don't think it will be.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 MackCollier says Teeg that's true, I know some bloggers that will email me to thank me for commenting on their blog, but then convo builds via email not blog
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 Teeg says as bloggers, it's our business to find the feeds...our customers have no reason to keep everything in front of us.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 LindaZ comment on blogs is the best, the person gets to really share what they think, feel and want to tell U plus they have more than 140character
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 JenniferLaycock is You know, from a search optimization perspective, I like the convo in multiple places, as long as they link
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 ConnieinDenver says Teeg makes a good point. FF just highlighted the fact that the conversation was already fragmented.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 Tim Jackson I do believe we have to go where the comments are- as a company. If I find a new blog comment or convo, I go visit and comment back.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:47 MackCollier says nwjerseyliz it moves fast, stay in it!!!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 JenniferLaycock is Also, with the convo in multiple places, more people have a chance to join in.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 emsgeiss says it's too bad you can't ping back comments regardless of where they happen
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 Teeg has been using SU for 3 years and before that other social sites. Conversations about blogs were always on the other sites...
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 ConnieinDenver says Spoken like a true search maven, JenniferLaycock.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 codyrobert says it's nicer to respond to a comment when it's somewhere you know it'll be, ie, on your blog. rather than off somewhere you mightn't look
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 emsgeiss says JenniferLaycock is right...it does allow for greater engagement
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 MackCollier says Jennifer try, but fragmented means it could be harder to grow into robust convo at one place, like blog
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 Tim Jackson If I find a new blog or comment, I try to go there and comment back. Even if weeks later. That has really helped me w/ outreach.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 Teeg and only rarely on the actual blogs
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 JenniferLaycock is There are only positives to more people in the convo. I say spread it everywhere! Just learn to track.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:48 Rachel says Tim - what do you think of Radian6?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 servantofchaos says JenniferLaycock ... LOL -- good point
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 Tim Jackson I've got a core of really good "fans" in Minneapolis because I tracked back one comment on one blog. Now I have a great group of many blogs.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 JenniferLaycock is Mack, sure, harder to have robust conversation, but easier to have convo go in different directions...
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 DebInDenver says hi gang. Dog trainer stayed forever! So I m am just hopping on.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 AmberCadabra jenniferlaycock that's a great point abt reaching a larger audience and engaging more people
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 MackCollier says true, i am really playing devil's advocate, cause I can see both sides on this one
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:49 ConnieinDenver says Gavin and Tim are speaking as company reps looking for the conversation, as is Rachel.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 Tim Jackson Rachel- I'm gonna admit that I have no idea what it is. I'm still a techno-doofus.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 JenniferLaycock is A lot of times, different blogs or communities view witha different spin, which adds even more value to convo
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 servantofchaos says I guess it all depends on your strategy -- what is the conversation and where are you trying to drive it to?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 ConnieinDenver Others see this from a blogger's perspective; Jennifer brings a search guru's perspective. That's what makes this great.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 AmberCadabra it's the "learn to track" part that can be brain damaging.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 MackCollier says Tim that's great, see so many companies dont think to do that, follow the comments back
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 DebInDenver says AmberCadabra www.plurk.com/p/v4rf#response-5879665
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:50 JenniferLaycock is Thanks Amber. I mean isn't fragmentation the very definition of "loss of control" and isn't this what happens with Social Media?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 MackCollier says and Jennifer 'gets' that some of us are search idiots
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 DebInDenver says soory about that. Wrong message!
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 servantofchaos says of course, as a blogger I just want to know what people are saying about me
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 ConnieinDenver Rachel, I am using Radian6 and I like it.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 templestark says ggroovin is going oto motivation for social media. since I'm new(ish) I'm curious. There's a lot of mixed motivations.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:51 Teeg says I know that until I blogged myself, I hated posting to blogs...it was much easier posting somewhere that my friends were and would talk
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 JenniferLaycock says Connie, both need to enter the picture. I mean social media and search are tied, whether social types like it. Have to play both strengths
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 seerysm says some combo of a convo tag along w/ RSS would work so all posts/responses get a tag where ever they happen & there's a feed for that tag
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 Rachel says I am working with a very limited toolset currently
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 ConnieinDenver Jennifer, agreed. Bottom line: there is not control. Impossible to get control (at this point). So what do you do about it?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 emsgeiss says Had to refresh screen. Ugh. I do the same as TimJackson re: responding to comments, regardless of age for both biz & personal blogs
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 AmberCadabra is a total search idiot. Gotta fix that.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 Tim Jackson Jennifer... I could kiss you for that comment; fragmentation, though inconvenient, spreads the conversation around to other channels.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 MackCollier says Connie what does Radian 6 give you that you can't get from monitoring via Google Blog Search/Summize/Technorati?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 JenniferLaycock says Mack, I think search is a key point many social/blog types miss. Those links are gold to you, especially if in editorial and not comments
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 codyrobert says comment pingbacks are a good compromise. still allowing user control of the conversation while relaying that info back to the blog
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:52 Rachel says Connie they sound interesting, just not sure I'll have budget for their service.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 templestark says I'm all right with loss of control but what is it being controlled or uncontrolled? (Thinks of William S. Burroughs quote here)
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 JenniferLaycock says The more people who make the convo their own on their own blog, the more it boosts you. That's a good thing, if you can track
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 AmberCadabra I think you have to give up the idea of having "total" control and find the greatest common denominator
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 ConnieinDenver can already see that we're going to draft Jennifer to host a plurkshop on social media and natural search.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 tdhurst asks Okay, where's the cake I'm supposed to jump out of? I'm already in costume.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 servantofchaos says I'm with you Connie, before social media we had the illusion of control. Now the conversation is audible thanks to our "digital ears"
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 MackCollier says Jennifer it seems there's a lot of SM types misunderstanding Search, and vice versa
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:53 Teeg asks is it more important to have control or to have return readers?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 JenniferLaycock says Connie, I'd love to hear more about them too, though my crowd likes the cheap stuff.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 seerysm has attended a Radian6 demo and liked it very much - but what you get out is still only as good as your search terms
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 AmberCadabra I don't want to quash the conversation at all, I just want a better way to keep up with it.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 ConnieinDenver Codyrobert, please explain more. Not sure I follow about comment pingback.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 templestark says For instance, this convo is hard to follow but we all get something out of it - but almost certainly something different with each of us.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 MackCollier says Teeg I think if you empower your readers, it makes them more likely to comment and return regularly
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 Tim Jackson Spinopsys- excellent point. Again, we already know we've lost control and running around is difficult, but the doors that open are great.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 servantofchaos says Spinopsys ... oh, another good topic. Anyone else live in fear of the "semantic web"
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:54 JenniferLaycock says LOL sure Connie. And I promise the topic woudln't be "game digg and fake friends for more links"
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 JenniferLaycock says How many of you are regularly checking your logs for new referrers? Not top/popular, but new?
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 Teeg says there has always been social media to an extent though, whether it was a chat room or online game. SM just expanded these.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 Rachel says control is an illusion at best.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 Tim Jackson Gavin- can you stop w/ the awesome quotes. You're making me feel like an idiot.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 JenniferLaycock says Whether comments are nofollowed or not, they still often send traffic, helping you track them.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 ConnieinDenver Jennifer, I like the cheap stuff too, and most of us *have* to use free/cheap stuff. But there is a place for cos. like Radian6.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:55 ConnieinDenver But we need to do that in a different thread or a different plurkshop.
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  June 30, 2008 at 00:56 LindaZ Ok what are the best search across the different channels