continuing live blog Ian Jukes' session. - GingerTPLC

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June 29, 2008 at 17:38 GingerTPLC We're creating highly educated useless people with our current system. Ted McCain won't tell kids what they don't ask him about.
June 29, 2008 at 17:38 GingerTPLC Ted McCain is Jukes' in-the-classroom partner. Like I am for KevinHoneycutt.
June 29, 2008 at 17:39 GingerTPLC "Teaching for Tomorrow" Jukes/McCain book. Dallas is building 14 schools based on this model.
June 29, 2008 at 17:40 GingerTPLC The book is 80 pages, and written in ENGLISH. Understandable.
June 29, 2008 at 17:41 GingerTPLC Kids can (4D's) Define the problem, Design some solutions, Do it. Vision-Into-Practice (VIP), Debrief. Essentials to thinking process.
June 29, 2008 at 17:43 GingerTPLC Process based learning is like trying to learn to ride a bike. Learn it, go away from it, then relearn in unconscious, internalised process.
June 29, 2008 at 17:44 GingerTPLC Headware vs Hardware. Hardware changes, Headware (skills) never change.
June 29, 2008 at 17:44 GingerTPLC *so glad I'm blogging this--even for myself*
June 29, 2008 at 17:44 GingerTPLC says he may go a few minutes overtime today. We all say *aaawwweee*
June 29, 2008 at 17:45 GingerTPLC Switching gears: Change and Kids:
June 29, 2008 at 17:46 GingerTPLC Jukes' telling sthe story about taking step-son Nils to Slayer. LOL! Shows guy with FULLY tattooed/pierced face.
June 29, 2008 at 17:47 GingerTPLC talking about how he ended up in the Mosh pit. And realized that he had a brief glimpse into a world that he really didn't know.
June 29, 2008 at 17:49 KarinBeil says I'm back, glad I bookmarked the RSS feed....will catch up later, thanks for liveblog!
June 29, 2008 at 17:50 GingerTPLC Evidence is quickly mounting that because of the pervasivness of tech, kids brains are quickly adapted to accommodate to the tech
June 29, 2008 at 17:50 GingerTPLC and the experiences that come with them. *Screenagers* They know that screens are interactive environments.
June 29, 2008 at 17:50 GingerTPLC (digital "native" talk) will hold off my own opinions...
June 29, 2008 at 17:51 GingerTPLC beil--thanks for the feedback.
June 29, 2008 at 17:52 GingerTPLC He's talking as Digital as First Language. (makes me wonder if older folks need DSL services--digital as a second language services.
June 29, 2008 at 17:52 GingerTPLC Oh--he just said that. Nice.
June 29, 2008 at 17:56 GingerTPLC We use neural pathways to make connections of learning. In the past 3 years, almost all of those long-standing assumptions of brain research
June 29, 2008 at 17:56 GingerTPLC have proven to be wrong.
June 29, 2008 at 17:56 GingerTPLC Brain is highly malleable and adaptable. We DO NOT have fixed # of brain cells. Brain is constantly reorganizing itself.
June 29, 2008 at 17:57 GingerTPLC Based on experiences and duration and intensity of those experiences.
June 29, 2008 at 17:57 GingerTPLC We can actually re-grow neurons. The intelligence we are born with isn't fixed. (good news for education and even stroke victims)
June 29, 2008 at 17:58 GingerTPLC Neuroplasticity. The brain is plastic. creating new thinking patterns throughout our lives.
June 29, 2008 at 18:00 GingerTPLC basically you *can* teach an old dog new tricks.
June 29, 2008 at 18:00 GingerTPLC proven, scientifically.
June 29, 2008 at 18:01 GingerTPLC Again, "Brain Rules" by John Medina. Comes with DVD and 12 specific researched brain rules. Myths of multitasking.
June 29, 2008 at 18:02 GingerTPLC Must re-inforce information within 2 hours. Critical wall of sleep. Brain is incredibly active and formulating/organizing during the nite.
June 29, 2008 at 18:03 GingerTPLC If you hear a piece of info, and 3 days later, you're asked to recall it, you get 10%. iF you include pic, you get 65% back.
June 29, 2008 at 18:04 GingerTPLC "Everything Bad is Good for You." Steven Johnson Digital devices have become extensions of themselves. Come to class with different habits.
June 29, 2008 at 18:04 GingerTPLC Gaming is NOT for slackers. Mentally enriching. Finetuning perceptions. Exercises for the mind like mvmt for the body.
June 29, 2008 at 18:05 GingerTPLC These skills are NOT vlaued or tested by traditional assessments.
June 29, 2008 at 18:05 GingerTPLC Talking Dan Pink--whole new mind. (I'm thinking about Gary Stager and Clay Burell right about now!)
June 29, 2008 at 18:06 gsellart says where are you following this?
June 29, 2008 at 18:06 GingerTPLC right brain (creative brain) has as much value as the Left/Linear brain.
June 29, 2008 at 18:08 GingerTPLC Caveat: brain does not go neuroplastic on its own. Needs to have intensive, sustained stimulation and focus over a period of time .
June 29, 2008 at 18:08 GingerTPLC several hours a day, 7 days a week.
June 29, 2008 at 18:08 GingerTPLC TV for extended periods of time will re-program the brain too.
June 29, 2008 at 18:11 GingerTPLC Talking MMORPG. (multiple online role playing games) This has been going on several hours a day, every day for YEARS. Kids r re-programmed.
June 29, 2008 at 18:18 milobo says I'm putting together my Amazon reading list as you're talking titles - some I have, some I don't - we need to start a book discussion plurk!
June 29, 2008 at 18:20 GingerTPLC thinks that plurk is *terrific* for book discussion.
June 29, 2008 at 18:20 GingerTPLC Jukes: Reality reality is much better than virtual reality.
June 29, 2008 at 18:21 GingerTPLC Parents today spend 40% less time with their kids than they did even 10 years ago!
June 29, 2008 at 18:22 GingerTPLC Human Brain Project: International consortium for Brain Mapping (neuroinformatics)
June 29, 2008 at 18:23 milobo says of that time, I'd wonder how much is spent in active interaction and how much in passive pursuits (watching TV together)?
June 29, 2008 at 18:23 GingerTPLC fMRIs: using functional Magnetic Re Imaging
June 29, 2008 at 18:23 GingerTPLC Jukes said that most of that time is spent watching TV
June 29, 2008 at 18:24 GingerTPLC New Imaging technique: the Brainbow. Like we color code house wiring--they're color coding thought paths. showing color pic of hippocampus.
June 29, 2008 at 18:24 GingerTPLC We can soon trace precisely where the blocks occur.
June 29, 2008 at 18:25 GingerTPLC Scientific American article: The Teen Brain--showing scans of people doing specifc tasks. If you were to take FMRIs from 2 generations back
June 29, 2008 at 18:26 GingerTPLC you'd see typically that older gen uses different paths to synthesize same info to same end.
June 29, 2008 at 18:26 GingerTPLC Kidshave measurable different neural path ways to process same information. (through the visual cortex)
June 29, 2008 at 18:27 GingerTPLC averge video game takes 40 hours to master. Visual processing skills dramatically increase with 10 hours of game play, reshaping the brain.
June 29, 2008 at 18:28 GingerTPLC Digital natives can recall 90% of content with images. Middle Age gets <65%, and 80ish year olds recall <10%.
June 29, 2008 at 18:29 GingerTPLC Eye processes vision 60,000x faster than looking at text. We read the shape of the world.
June 29, 2008 at 18:29 GingerTPLC 30% of brain cortex is visual
June 29, 2008 at 18:29 GingerTPLC 8% is touch
June 29, 2008 at 18:29 GingerTPLC 3% is hearing
June 29, 2008 at 18:32 GingerTPLC Digital natives read in the "F" pattern. Found at Kent State University.
June 29, 2008 at 18:32 GingerTPLC (the research is found there). UNLESS you put awesome image in lower right hand side of page, kids' eyes wont look there!
June 29, 2008 at 18:32 GingerTPLC WOW!
June 29, 2008 at 18:33 GingerTPLC Adults like to read black text on white background. Depending on background. Kids love blood red, pink, neon green. In that order.
June 29, 2008 at 18:33 GingerTPLC they IGNORE black on white background. BAH!
June 29, 2008 at 18:35 GingerTPLC 87% of tests are based on momorization of text. Is citing Prensky's stats on what kids see by age 18.
June 29, 2008 at 18:37 GingerTPLC because the kids look essentially the same as we did, it's so hard to see that they act differently, view things differently, ARE different.
June 29, 2008 at 18:38 GingerTPLC If *we're* still teaching kids the same way, knowing they're different, WHO HAS THE LEARNING PROBLEM? (this one gave me teary eyes)
June 29, 2008 at 18:46 GingerTPLC Digital learners prefer rec info quicly from mult multimedia sources.
June 29, 2008 at 18:47 milobo says wow - powerful stuff! and I wonder about the research on digital natives reading strategies - does that hold true for text on a computer?
June 29, 2008 at 18:48 GingerTPLC that *is* what they're talking about. Read Wired Mag. They have odd looking things. For a reason. It's not meant for "immigrants."
June 29, 2008 at 18:49 GingerTPLC digital learners prefer pictures sound, video, over text.
June 29, 2008 at 18:50 GingerTPLC picture is worth 1000 words. immigrants prefer the 1000 words.
June 29, 2008 at 18:51 GingerTPLC please note when I say immigrants, i'm ALWAYS meaning digital immigrants.
June 29, 2008 at 18:52 GingerTPLC Digital learners prefer random and hypertext. Immigrants prefer linear, left to right path of thought.
June 29, 2008 at 18:52 GingerTPLC (thinking back to discomfort of many of this scroll on plurk)
June 29, 2008 at 18:53 GingerTPLC this is NOT about "either/or" There needs to be a BALANCE.
June 29, 2008 at 18:53 GingerTPLC Kids want to network and collab. Teachers expect them to gather info, then talk.
June 29, 2008 at 18:54 GingerTPLC Digital learners prefer "just in time" learning. Teachers prefer" just in case" learning
June 29, 2008 at 18:56 GingerTPLC (wonder how many responses I can get on here before I have to start a new plurk)
June 29, 2008 at 18:57 GingerTPLC DL prefer immediate gratification and instant rewards. Teachers prefer defferred gratification.
June 29, 2008 at 18:59 GingerTPLC Digital nat are intellectual problem solvers. These are built in to their games/shows. NOT slackers.
June 29, 2008 at 19:01 GingerTPLC seems to be a palpable change in the room. They seem to be nodding MUCH less.
June 29, 2008 at 19:04 milobo says I'd be nodding - difference is the problems have to be important to them *and their peers*, or they look like slackers to us.
June 29, 2008 at 19:06 GingerTPLC Audience comment: "Our idea of relevance doesn't relate to video games. They're not related to real world."
June 29, 2008 at 19:06 GingerTPLC break. He's gonna give us 7 tips to engage digital learners.
June 29, 2008 at 19:09 metaweb says Ginger this "live blogging" ability in Plurk is definitely a plus point on Plurks side of the micrblogging fence
June 29, 2008 at 19:13 metaweb says I am grabbing the RSS feed for Ginger's live blog by clicking on "Plurk Page" link at bottom of this thread then clicking on the RSS button
June 29, 2008 at 19:19 GingerTPLC got to IanJukes.com and look at the Understanding Digital Kids under "downloadable Handouts"
June 29, 2008 at 19:19 GingerTPLC He's got THOUSANDS of pages there.
June 29, 2008 at 19:22 GingerTPLC woah. I just put Ian Juke . com and it made a REAL link.
June 29, 2008 at 19:23 karlyb says I'm enjoying how you are using this as a live blog.
June 29, 2008 at 19:23 GingerTPLC Living life like a quarterback: Does he throw the ball to where the receiver IS, or is GOING to be? Gotta work backwards.
June 29, 2008 at 19:23 GingerTPLC called thinking in future tense. Nothing more than the past of the future. (yike!)
June 29, 2008 at 19:24 GingerTPLC What skills and habits of MINE do we need kids to ahve (other than being able to score on bubble tests) inorder for them to be successful.
June 29, 2008 at 19:24 GingerTPLC Citing Larning by Design (Tighe, right?)
June 29, 2008 at 19:25 GingerTPLC THE most powerful tech in the classroom is, was, and will remain, the classroom teacher WITH A LOVE OF LEARNING.
June 29, 2008 at 19:25 GingerTPLC Any teacher who can be replaced by a computer, DESERVES to be.
June 29, 2008 at 19:26 GingerTPLC Far less to do with software, hardware, but more with HEADWARE (remember from this morning)?
June 29, 2008 at 19:26 GingerTPLC Can be done w/o ZERO money. Teach interviewing skills.
June 29, 2008 at 19:27 GingerTPLC teach them to use Headware. Those are the 21st century skills.
June 29, 2008 at 19:29 GingerTPLC 70% of usage of tech in K12 in America is at literacy level. The next levelis integrated augmentative adaptive level.
June 29, 2008 at 19:30 GingerTPLC We use new tech to REinforce OLD ways of thinking. (i agree totally. yuk.)
June 29, 2008 at 19:31 GingerTPLC "I notice that you and your kids have been using tech for a long time. If I was to take away the tech, would you be teaching the same way?"
June 29, 2008 at 19:31 GingerTPLC if you're using integrated augmentative adaptive tech, your answer will be YES.
June 29, 2008 at 19:32 GingerTPLC But there's yet another level.
June 29, 2008 at 19:33 GingerTPLC Transformative uses of technology. We know how to use the hard/software, understand literacy, now use the tech to take me to places, do
June 29, 2008 at 19:33 GingerTPLC things that would be aboslutely impossible to do with out the tech. To communicate at distance, mix dangerous chemicals. The tech skills are
June 29, 2008 at 19:34 GingerTPLC incidental. EMPHasis is on the problem solving, creative thinking, collaborative, etc. DRIVEN by students AND dteacher.
June 29, 2008 at 19:35 GingerTPLC "If I take the tech away, will you be able to teach, learners learn, students assessed, can you still teach?" NO--because environ has been
June 29, 2008 at 19:35 GingerTPLC transformed. Looking for a 1:1:1 balance in these 3 levels.
June 29, 2008 at 19:36 GingerTPLC learning about the tech is incidental by product. Essentials are based in HEADWARE. Getting it Right--bernagene Porter.
June 29, 2008 at 19:41 GingerTPLC Go to Jukes' site for TONS of info and great pics. This guy has put a lot of stuff out there for all of us. He says USE it. Seriously.
June 29, 2008 at 19:41 GingerTPLC ianjukes.com
June 29, 2008 at 19:42 GingerTPLC called Committed Sardine Lots of "F" words--FREE and FUNNY.
June 29, 2008 at 19:43 GingerTPLC Because of NAFTA, we're all one. Buenos Dias, eh?
June 29, 2008 at 19:43 GingerTPLC Getting inside the brains of digital kids: *whew*
June 29, 2008 at 19:43 GingerTPLC They are absolutely different.
June 29, 2008 at 19:44 GingerTPLC NCES--loved by Margaret Spellings. 60% of kids who start K in america, don't finish grade 12.
June 29, 2008 at 19:45 GingerTPLC only 28% of 12th grade students feel HS work is meaningful. 39% won't have any bearing on later success. Opinion of studens who have
June 29, 2008 at 19:45 GingerTPLC been SUCCESSFUL in school. meh.
June 29, 2008 at 19:45 GingerTPLC Shame on us.
June 29, 2008 at 19:47 GingerTPLC If kids only are in classes because they HAVE to be, what can we do RIGHT NOW to get them to want to be there.
June 29, 2008 at 19:48 GingerTPLC kids are voting with their minds and with their feet.
June 29, 2008 at 19:49 GingerTPLC 7 Major changes:
June 29, 2008 at 19:50 GingerTPLC 1. Time to Catch Up Must be a balance between traditional and shift culture.
June 29, 2008 at 19:53 GingerTPLC dude is on a RANT. we must change and not give lipservice. period.
June 29, 2008 at 19:55 GingerTPLC live in their world for a while! Go web2.0--EXPERIENCE it.
June 29, 2008 at 19:56 GingerTPLC (man I'm feeling good. I've done nearly all he's recommending. sorry, no way to post all of them. Just listing tools and telling you to use.
June 29, 2008 at 19:57 GingerTPLC (and I'm sitting between 2 guys who are taking notes on their paper.)
June 29, 2008 at 19:57 GingerTPLC #2: Teach to the Whole New Mind
June 29, 2008 at 20:01 GingerTPLC talking about action verbs on tests. they're all at lowest levels of Blooms.
June 29, 2008 at 20:03 Vance likes following ginger and watching Jeff Utechts stream of D warlick etc in the blogging cafe
June 29, 2008 at 20:03 GingerTPLC loving that when the audience comments or questions, they speak LOUDLY and quickly. Mimicking Jukes.
June 29, 2008 at 20:03 Brenda M says I've been reading the 12 Brain Rules book. It's interesting but still conversational in style.
June 29, 2008 at 20:03 GingerTPLC thanks Vance for comment. Tell those dudes that plurk is good for this!
June 29, 2008 at 20:05 GingerTPLC is very interested in reading that book. Actually, listening to it. Is it on Audible.com?
June 29, 2008 at 20:07 GingerTPLC In the information age, we ALL need to be able to work with ALL forms, not just traditional R, R, R of informaiton and transform it into
June 29, 2008 at 20:07 GingerTPLC something useful for their future.
June 29, 2008 at 20:07 Brenda M says here you go :www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?productID=BK_PPRS_000001&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes
June 29, 2008 at 20:09 GingerTPLC Techological fluency. Learning to be a problem solver with the tools. NOt learning abt powerpointlessness, but learning how to deliver.
June 29, 2008 at 20:09 GingerTPLC bmuench thanks--opened new tab. Will get it later.
June 29, 2008 at 20:10 GingerTPLC not about teaching button pushing skills. It's about learning THROUGH the tech.
June 29, 2008 at 20:10 GingerTPLC Media fluency is not about creating podcasts/videos/etc. It's about being able to look critically at media and being able to understand how
June 29, 2008 at 20:10 GingerTPLC it's being used to effectively communicate with user. How our thinking is being shaped.
June 29, 2008 at 20:11 GingerTPLC select the appropriate media for the message. Sometimes podcast is good. sometimes blog is good. Match media to message.
June 29, 2008 at 20:11 GingerTPLC not passive viewing or consuming. Create and publish origianl products to COMMUNICATE.
June 29, 2008 at 20:13 GingerTPLC talking principals of graphic design and parent motion.
June 29, 2008 at 20:14 GingerTPLC oh duh--APPARENT motion. Pics with action. durh
June 29, 2008 at 20:14 GingerTPLC Information fluency
June 29, 2008 at 20:15 Brenda M says i like matching media to skill set to start out. podcasting happens more naturally than blogging with my 1st and 2nd graders.
June 29, 2008 at 20:15 GingerTPLC ability to unconsciencely and intuitively interpret all forms of media to extract knowledge significance and apply in real world.
June 29, 2008 at 20:16 GingerTPLC wow. dude has a LOT of info. I'm not usually overwhelmed. Especially when blogging.
June 29, 2008 at 20:18 GingerTPLC access, analyze, apply, and assess this information. Good fluency skills.
June 29, 2008 at 20:18 Skip Z says I think your tool lust podcast was 'the berries'! Thanks.
June 29, 2008 at 20:19 GingerTPLC Thanks!
June 29, 2008 at 20:19 GingerTPLC gingerl.podomatic.com/
June 29, 2008 at 20:20 GingerTPLC New podcast coming about this live blogging on plurk experience. gotta remember some things.
June 29, 2008 at 20:20 GingerTPLC thankful there's not a lot of activity but me right now.
June 29, 2008 at 20:23 GingerTPLC Columbian strategy: getting kids into social networking with "Crack" of webkinz, club pengin, etc
June 29, 2008 at 20:24 Brenda M says love that terminology
June 29, 2008 at 20:24 GingerTPLC we need to take a series of baby steps/scaffolding. Kids don't know. we need to define what sort of awareness kids needs online.
June 29, 2008 at 20:26 GingerTPLC 21sr cent cfluenceies need to be taught like math/reading in every class, in library, in class. everywhere.
June 29, 2008 at 20:26 GingerTPLC #3 Shift the instructional approach
June 29, 2008 at 20:28 GingerTPLC begin with progressive withdrawal.
June 29, 2008 at 20:35 GingerTPLC oh, now I've become distracted. Bad blogger (after how many hours?)
June 29, 2008 at 20:37 Skip Z says Ahhhh! The Columbian strategy!
June 29, 2008 at 20:37 GingerTPLC he's talking with audience about using tools and not having to learn crap curriculum (TM--GingerTPLC)
June 29, 2008 at 20:38 GingerTPLC #5 Let students Collaborate.
June 29, 2008 at 20:41 GingerTPLC #6 Create Products that reflect content and process!
June 29, 2008 at 20:42 GingerTPLC 7: We must re-evaluate evaluation.
June 29, 2008 at 20:42 GingerTPLC I think that's the last one.
June 29, 2008 at 20:45 GingerTPLC jukes is now refusing to go on. voice is gone. brain is gone. Want to buy him a much-deserved drink
June 29, 2008 at 20:45 GingerTPLC going hoarse.
June 29, 2008 at 20:46 GingerTPLC but he got mike and he's still talking and clicking slides.
June 29, 2008 at 20:47 GingerTPLC only two people have left--presumably to meet at pre-arraned time.
June 29, 2008 at 20:48 GingerTPLC email him here: ianjukes@mac.com and if you put "I need to be committed" in the body of the text, he says that on a blood oath, he'll resp
June 29, 2008 at 20:48 GingerTPLC in 48 hours.
June 29, 2008 at 20:48 GingerTPLC wow!
June 29, 2008 at 20:52 GingerTPLC hmm. karma was going down here at the end. and Jukes is still talking.
June 29, 2008 at 20:52 GingerTPLC talking about GWB and the time he spent with him.
June 29, 2008 at 20:53 GingerTPLC WOW! done. people are still sitting. but I have to go.
June 29, 2008 at 20:54 Brenda M says thanks!
June 29, 2008 at 20:54 GingerTPLC thanks all! Let me know if you link this elsewhere, so in case I get in huge trouble for blogging it, I can take you down iwth me!!!
June 29, 2008 at 21:06 Wendella says Ginger you win award for keeping us non-NECCers informed! www.bobandmike.com/frenchopen.gif
June 29, 2008 at 21:09 Lori nice job! maybe next year I will be there too!
June 29, 2008 at 21:10 Wendella says Think I like this one better...called Thank You www.bobandmike.com/Thankyou.gif
June 29, 2008 at 21:48 milobo shares Ian won't take you down - he's the neatest guy I've met and means what he says about sharing.
June 29, 2008 at 21:49 milobo says I was lucky to get an extended 1 on 1 conversation with him during the FL PAEC conference a few years ago.
June 29, 2008 at 21:50 milobo says as long as you can pass his "Canadian literacy for US citizens quiz" he's quite friendly
June 29, 2008 at 21:54 GingerTPLC oh lord! where can I study?
June 29, 2008 at 21:58 milobo says hee-hee! He's a bit miffed that US citizens don't know much about Canada - how many provinces & territories, capitol, PM, etc.
June 29, 2008 at 22:00 milobo says I think I got on his good side when I could name provinces from West Coast to East along with each capitol and only missed one province!
June 29, 2008 at 22:00 GingerTPLC oh, I may be ok since I really do admire Canada in many ways. And have traveled there.
June 29, 2008 at 22:22 metaweb says Up to 193 live blog posts ... Looks like Plurk can and does deliver the goods!
June 29, 2008 at 22:24 metaweb says Not many Canadians or US citizens (being careful not to say Americans) don't know the point where Canada is exactly due south of the USA...
June 29, 2008 at 22:25 metaweb says It is Detroit btw ... Detroit is south of Windsor, Ontario .. there is a little finger that dips under the thumb of Michigan
June 29, 2008 at 22:26 metaweb says I mean Detroit is NORTH of Windsor .. sheesh
June 29, 2008 at 22:40 bookjewel Fantastic stuff
June 30, 2008 at 03:01 Nedra says Great job, really enjoyed this. BTW many US citizens don't even know US geography let alone Canadian.