GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:38PM We're creating highly educated useless people with our current system. Ted McCain won't tell kids what they don't ask him about.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:38PM Ted McCain is Jukes' in-the-classroom partner. Like I am for KevinHoneycutt.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:39PM "Teaching for Tomorrow" Jukes/McCain book. Dallas is building 14 schools based on this model.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:41PM Kids can (4D's) Define the problem, Design some solutions, Do it. Vision-Into-Practice (VIP), Debrief. Essentials to thinking process.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:43PM Process based learning is like trying to learn to ride a bike. Learn it, go away from it, then relearn in unconscious, internalised process.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:44PM Headware vs Hardware. Hardware changes, Headware (skills) never change.
GingerLewman says Jun 29, 2008 05:44PM he may go a few minutes overtime today. We all say *aaawwweee*
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:46PM Jukes' telling sthe story about taking step-son Nils to Slayer. LOL! Shows guy with FULLY tattooed/pierced face.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:47PM talking about how he ended up in the Mosh pit. And realized that he had a brief glimpse into a world that he really didn't know.
KarinB says Jun 29, 2008 05:49PM I'm back, glad I bookmarked the RSS feed....will catch up later, thanks for liveblog!
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:50PM Evidence is quickly mounting that because of the pervasivness of tech, kids brains are quickly adapted to accommodate to the tech
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:50PM and the experiences that come with them. *Screenagers* They know that screens are interactive environments.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:52PM He's talking as Digital as First Language. (makes me wonder if older folks need DSL services--digital as a second language services.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:56PM We use neural pathways to make connections of learning. In the past 3 years, almost all of those long-standing assumptions of brain research
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:56PM Brain is highly malleable and adaptable. We DO NOT have fixed # of brain cells. Brain is constantly reorganizing itself.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:57PM Based on experiences and duration and intensity of those experiences.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:57PM We can actually re-grow neurons. The intelligence we are born with isn't fixed. (good news for education and even stroke victims)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 05:58PM Neuroplasticity. The brain is plastic. creating new thinking patterns throughout our lives.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:01PM Again, "Brain Rules" by John Medina. Comes with DVD and 12 specific researched brain rules. Myths of multitasking.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:02PM Must re-inforce information within 2 hours. Critical wall of sleep. Brain is incredibly active and formulating/organizing during the nite.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:03PM If you hear a piece of info, and 3 days later, you're asked to recall it, you get 10%. iF you include pic, you get 65% back.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:04PM "Everything Bad is Good for You." Steven Johnson Digital devices have become extensions of themselves. Come to class with different habits.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:04PM Gaming is NOT for slackers. Mentally enriching. Finetuning perceptions. Exercises for the mind like mvmt for the body.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:05PM Talking Dan Pink--whole new mind. (I'm thinking about Gary Stager and Clay Burell right about now!)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:06PM right brain (creative brain) has as much value as the Left/Linear brain.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:08PM Caveat: brain does not go neuroplastic on its own. Needs to have intensive, sustained stimulation and focus over a period of time .
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:11PM Talking MMORPG. (multiple online role playing games) This has been going on several hours a day, every day for YEARS. Kids r re-programmed.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 06:18PM I'm putting together my Amazon reading list as you're talking titles - some I have, some I don't - we need to start a book discussion plurk!
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:21PM Parents today spend 40% less time with their kids than they did even 10 years ago!
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:22PM Human Brain Project: International consortium for Brain Mapping (neuroinformatics)
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 06:23PM of that time, I'd wonder how much is spent in active interaction and how much in passive pursuits (watching TV together)?
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:24PM New Imaging technique: the Brainbow. Like we color code house wiring--they're color coding thought paths. showing color pic of hippocampus.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:25PM Scientific American article: The Teen Brain--showing scans of people doing specifc tasks. If you were to take FMRIs from 2 generations back
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:26PM you'd see typically that older gen uses different paths to synthesize same info to same end.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:26PM Kidshave measurable different neural path ways to process same information. (through the visual cortex)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:27PM averge video game takes 40 hours to master. Visual processing skills dramatically increase with 10 hours of game play, reshaping the brain.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:28PM Digital natives can recall 90% of content with images. Middle Age gets <65%, and 80ish year olds recall <10%.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:29PM Eye processes vision 60,000x faster than looking at text. We read the shape of the world.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:32PM Digital natives read in the "F" pattern. Found at Kent State University.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:32PM (the research is found there). UNLESS you put awesome image in lower right hand side of page, kids' eyes wont look there!
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:33PM Adults like to read black text on white background. Depending on background. Kids love blood red, pink, neon green. In that order.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:35PM 87% of tests are based on momorization of text. Is citing Prensky's stats on what kids see by age 18.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:37PM because the kids look essentially the same as we did, it's so hard to see that they act differently, view things differently, ARE different.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:38PM If *we're* still teaching kids the same way, knowing they're different, WHO HAS THE LEARNING PROBLEM? (this one gave me teary eyes)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:46PM Digital learners prefer rec info quicly from mult multimedia sources.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 06:47PM wow - powerful stuff! and I wonder about the research on digital natives reading strategies - does that hold true for text on a computer?
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:48PM that *is* what they're talking about. Read Wired Mag. They have odd looking things. For a reason. It's not meant for "immigrants."
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:51PM please note when I say immigrants, i'm ALWAYS meaning digital immigrants.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:52PM Digital learners prefer random and hypertext. Immigrants prefer linear, left to right path of thought.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:53PM Kids want to network and collab. Teachers expect them to gather info, then talk.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:54PM Digital learners prefer "just in time" learning. Teachers prefer" just in case" learning
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:56PM (wonder how many responses I can get on here before I have to start a new plurk)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:57PM DL prefer immediate gratification and instant rewards. Teachers prefer defferred gratification.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 06:59PM Digital nat are intellectual problem solvers. These are built in to their games/shows. NOT slackers.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:01PM seems to be a palpable change in the room. They seem to be nodding MUCH less.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 07:04PM I'd be nodding - difference is the problems have to be important to them *and their peers*, or they look like slackers to us.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:06PM Audience comment: "Our idea of relevance doesn't relate to video games. They're not related to real world."
metaweb says Jun 29, 2008 07:09PM Ginger this "live blogging" ability in Plurk is definitely a plus point on Plurks side of the micrblogging fence
metaweb says Jun 29, 2008 07:13PM I am grabbing the RSS feed for Ginger's live blog by clicking on "Plurk Page" link at bottom of this thread then clicking on the RSS button
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:19PM got to IanJukes.com and look at the Understanding Digital Kids under "downloadable Handouts"
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:23PM Living life like a quarterback: Does he throw the ball to where the receiver IS, or is GOING to be? Gotta work backwards.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:23PM called thinking in future tense. Nothing more than the past of the future. (yike!)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:24PM What skills and habits of MINE do we need kids to ahve (other than being able to score on bubble tests) inorder for them to be successful.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:25PM THE most powerful tech in the classroom is, was, and will remain, the classroom teacher WITH A LOVE OF LEARNING.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:26PM Far less to do with software, hardware, but more with HEADWARE (remember from this morning)?
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:29PM 70% of usage of tech in K12 in America is at literacy level. The next levelis integrated augmentative adaptive level.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:30PM We use new tech to REinforce OLD ways of thinking. (i agree totally. yuk.)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:31PM "I notice that you and your kids have been using tech for a long time. If I was to take away the tech, would you be teaching the same way?"
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:31PM if you're using integrated augmentative adaptive tech, your answer will be YES.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:33PM Transformative uses of technology. We know how to use the hard/software, understand literacy, now use the tech to take me to places, do
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:33PM things that would be aboslutely impossible to do with out the tech. To communicate at distance, mix dangerous chemicals. The tech skills are
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:34PM incidental. EMPHasis is on the problem solving, creative thinking, collaborative, etc. DRIVEN by students AND dteacher.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:35PM "If I take the tech away, will you be able to teach, learners learn, students assessed, can you still teach?" NO--because environ has been
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:36PM learning about the tech is incidental by product. Essentials are based in HEADWARE. Getting it Right--bernagene Porter.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:41PM Go to Jukes' site for TONS of info and great pics. This guy has put a lot of stuff out there for all of us. He says USE it. Seriously.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:44PM NCES--loved by Margaret Spellings. 60% of kids who start K in america, don't finish grade 12.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:45PM only 28% of 12th grade students feel HS work is meaningful. 39% won't have any bearing on later success. Opinion of studens who have
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:47PM If kids only are in classes because they HAVE to be, what can we do RIGHT NOW to get them to want to be there.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:50PM 1. Time to Catch Up Must be a balance between traditional and shift culture.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:56PM (man I'm feeling good. I've done nearly all he's recommending. sorry, no way to post all of them. Just listing tools and telling you to use.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 07:57PM (and I'm sitting between 2 guys who are taking notes on their paper.)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:01PM talking about action verbs on tests. they're all at lowest levels of Blooms.
Vance likes Jun 29, 2008 08:03PM following ginger and watching Jeff Utechts stream of D warlick etc in the blogging cafe
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:03PM loving that when the audience comments or questions, they speak LOUDLY and quickly. Mimicking Jukes.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:03PM thanks Vance for comment. Tell those dudes that plurk is good for this!
GingerLewman is Jun 29, 2008 08:05PM very interested in reading that book. Actually, listening to it. Is it on Audible.com?
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:07PM In the information age, we ALL need to be able to work with ALL forms, not just traditional R, R, R of informaiton and transform it into
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:09PM Techological fluency. Learning to be a problem solver with the tools. NOt learning abt powerpointlessness, but learning how to deliver.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:10PM not about teaching button pushing skills. It's about learning THROUGH the tech.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:10PM Media fluency is not about creating podcasts/videos/etc. It's about being able to look critically at media and being able to understand how
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:10PM it's being used to effectively communicate with user. How our thinking is being shaped.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:11PM select the appropriate media for the message. Sometimes podcast is good. sometimes blog is good. Match media to message.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:11PM not passive viewing or consuming. Create and publish origianl products to COMMUNICATE.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:15PM ability to unconsciencely and intuitively interpret all forms of media to extract knowledge significance and apply in real world.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:16PM wow. dude has a LOT of info. I'm not usually overwhelmed. Especially when blogging.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:18PM access, analyze, apply, and assess this information. Good fluency skills.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:20PM New podcast coming about this live blogging on plurk experience. gotta remember some things.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:23PM Columbian strategy: getting kids into social networking with "Crack" of webkinz, club pengin, etc
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:24PM we need to take a series of baby steps/scaffolding. Kids don't know. we need to define what sort of awareness kids needs online.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:26PM 21sr cent cfluenceies need to be taught like math/reading in every class, in library, in class. everywhere.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:35PM oh, now I've become distracted. Bad blogger (after how many hours?)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:37PM he's talking with audience about using tools and not having to learn crap curriculum (TM--GingerTPLC)
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:45PM jukes is now refusing to go on. voice is gone. brain is gone. Want to buy him a much-deserved drink
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:48PM email him here: ianjukes@mac.com and if you put "I need to be committed" in the body of the text, he says that on a blood oath, he'll resp
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:52PM hmm. karma was going down here at the end. and Jukes is still talking.
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 08:54PM thanks all! Let me know if you link this elsewhere, so in case I get in huge trouble for blogging it, I can take you down iwth me!!!
wsigele says Jun 29, 2008 09:06PM Ginger you win award for keeping us non-NECCers informed! www.bobandmike.com/frenchopen.gif
wsigele says Jun 29, 2008 09:10PM Think I like this one better...called Thank You www.bobandmike.com/Thankyou.gif
milobo shares Jun 29, 2008 09:48PM Ian won't take you down - he's the neatest guy I've met and means what he says about sharing.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 09:49PM I was lucky to get an extended 1 on 1 conversation with him during the FL PAEC conference a few years ago.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 09:50PM as long as you can pass his "Canadian literacy for US citizens quiz" he's quite friendly
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 09:58PM hee-hee! He's a bit miffed that US citizens don't know much about Canada - how many provinces & territories, capitol, PM, etc.
milobo says Jun 29, 2008 10:00PM I think I got on his good side when I could name provinces from West Coast to East along with each capitol and only missed one province!
GingerLewman Jun 29, 2008 10:00PM oh, I may be ok since I really do admire Canada in many ways. And have traveled there.
metaweb says Jun 29, 2008 10:22PM Up to 193 live blog posts ... Looks like Plurk can and does deliver the goods!
metaweb says Jun 29, 2008 10:24PM Not many Canadians or US citizens (being careful not to say Americans) don't know the point where Canada is exactly due south of the USA...
metaweb says Jun 29, 2008 10:25PM It is Detroit btw ... Detroit is south of Windsor, Ontario .. there is a little finger that dips under the thumb of Michigan
Nedra_I says Jun 30, 2008 03:01AM Great job, really enjoyed this. BTW many US citizens don't even know US geography let alone Canadian.