Connie says Jun 28, 2008 07:23PM tonight's plurkshop is about traditional marketers using social networks to broadcast messages. What do you think of GuyKawasaki, etc?
ConnieBensen Jun 29, 2008 12:24AM GuyKawasaki is here now - maybe he'll join the convo? This is my first plurkshop by the way
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:25AM Connie, I doubt that he will but would love it if he did. He has stated quite clearly about his Twitter usage that he's a marketer.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:25AM And that he uses these channels to market his products. He did not engage w/ anyone at all when first using Twitter. Then he gradually
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:25AM began to follow others and have some conversations. I quit following him there, so I don't know how involved he has stayed w/ interacting.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:26AM I think that's his choice, and it's my choice to use social networks in a different way. He broadcasts; I connect through conversation.
ConnieBensen Jun 29, 2008 12:27AM I followed him, then turned it off. Now I follow him again on Twitter & he's interacting. It's nice to see
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:28AM it just dawned on me that perhaps in Guy's line of business (VC), trad. marketing is what he needs.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:28AM honestly the only 'interaction' I've seen from Guy on Twitter is to ask people what they want on AllTop. Can't be all about you.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:29AM I still have an issue with using SM tools as merely broadcast. I think you have to be willing to engage for people for them to listen
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:29AM BTW I won't follow Guy until he proves that he's here to interact, not broadcast.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:29AM I made an effort to converse w/ Guy on Twitter but he totally ignored me. That's when I quit following him. I'd be happy to chat w/ him
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:30AM it's interesting, because someone like chrisbrogan is all about community, but can hardly respond to all his followers.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:30AM I'm following him too. Don't know if he followed me back. I added him back at the first of the month when he started on Plurk.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:30AM but i do see him engaging, so even if it's not with me, i give him credit for really caring about it
Connie asks Jun 29, 2008 12:30AM then is chrisbrogan **really** all about community if he follows so many people he cannot engage with them?
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:30AM I'm following scobelizer too, because I want to see how he treats this new platform
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:31AM Connie you may remember Guy and I talked on Twitter one night about creating value vs extracting
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:31AM connie Dunno the answer to that! He's super great about responding to my emails and comments, but Twitter is harder to follow.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:31AM Connie that's a good point. I think Chris is one of the guys that can't say no to anyone, so he tries to follow everyone
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:32AM To me, the difference is that I believe in Chris Brogan's intentions, even if it's hard for him to execute.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:32AM I don't think anyone who uses an autoscript to follow everyone (as Chris does) is not as community-minded as he says.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:33AM It is impossible to interact with that many people, so all you are really doing is building a group of fans, not a community.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:33AM You make a really good point, Connie. So do you see selective following with more engagement as a better strategy?
ConnieBensen Jun 29, 2008 12:33AM one night when I had a career question chrisbrogan called me & we talked for 15 min's while he was driving. He is sincere
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:34AM What happens when you engage so well that oyu get an onslaught of followers as a result?
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:34AM He's another one who asks a lot of questions just to generate a lot of responses coming into his Twitter stream.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:34AM I've talked to Chris several times and he is sincere. I just think he's building the Chris Brogan brand more than he's building community
ConnieBensen Jun 29, 2008 12:34AM but he does have a huge community - I've felt changes as mine grows too - but I'm chatting more in real time - skype & digsby (facebook)
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:35AM chris just sent a tweet telling folks to link into him. Looking for fans on LinkedIn or looking to engage with people and have convos?
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM Guy replied back that he 'won't be here long then' if we expect interaction from him
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM Urp. I just read Guy's response to mackcollier on this other plurk. www.plurk.com/p/thsj
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM I can't help thinking Chris is all about the numbers. I do not want to be LinkedIn with just anyone who wants to. What is the purpose?
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM if I might ask...could it be that we do not fall into an SM's target market, thus they don't feel the need to converse?
LindaZ Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM I believe plurkers need conversations and if marketers are only going to post their broadcast msgs and not participate...
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:36AM perhaps Chris is only looking to work with F500 marketers and reservse conversing w/them?
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:37AM Beth, Guy has got a website set up that appears to be costing him next to nothing, so he only wants to push traffic to it
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:37AM I agree with you, LindaZ. I look so fwd to logging on here because I really enjoy the connections.
LindaZ Jun 29, 2008 12:37AM I believe most of the real plurkers who come here to participate will start to stop following them or block them... thats my 2 cents
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:37AM agrees w/ Beth. Chris is looking to get gigs w/ top companies. He's building a community to prove to them he can do it.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:38AM ambercadabra, I have tried to converse, but never get a response. Could be lack of time, could be lack of interest, or they don't know me.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:38AM The one thing that makes me think Chris isn't about numbers is that I can't recall him ever mentioning # of followers on Twitter
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:38AM the ones that are all about numbers are constantly bragging about how many followers they have
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:38AM When I say Chris is about numbers it's stunts like the LinkedIn, about gathering thousands of followers on Twitter when he knows he
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:39AM bethharte I've tried to start conversations with folks other than Chris and get nada. And I admit, it's hard not to take it personally
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:39AM I don't think Chris gets his ego stroked by numbers. I think connie's point about proving his community-building ability is sharp.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:40AM I think Chris likes to assemble a large community of followers, then tap them for Q&As, and also shares links with them
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:40AM part of what leaves a bad taste in my mouth about Twitter is when i DO make the effort to jump in and get ignored.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:40AM but after meeting Chris, I can say he had zero ego when I saw him
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:41AM I believe that, mackcollier. Plus, I really find the information Chris provides to be useful and interesting
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:41AM Back to a point Amber made ... Yes, I think selective following to maximize engagement is the way to go.
swoodruff says Jun 29, 2008 12:41AM my bet is that these platforms will increasingly self-select and self-define. Broadcasters will tend toward one, conversers (sp?) to another
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:41AM I admire Chris's ability to generate good content consistently. He is a gold mine in that respect.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:42AM I agree w/connie...it's about proving community building. So, then, in a sense, it's trad. marketing.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 12:42AM I will say that I met Chris at SXSW, where he was alongside some A-Listers with SERIOUS egos, Chris stood out as being 'real'
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:43AM I guess the other problem is that I haven't found Guy's content to be that engaging. Sorry, guy.
Lux says Jun 29, 2008 12:48AM I met Chris at BlogWorld Expo. He seemed nice, but he also has a business to run. And that's OK. He is who he is.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:49AM Look at Seth Godin. Much like Guy, he is a *traditional* marketer. Does not enable comments on his blog. And he does not Twitter.
KDFrawg says Jun 29, 2008 12:49AM < smile > I hate to be just common-sensical, but some of these folk's don't know a thing about actual interaction.
KDFrawg says Jun 29, 2008 12:50AM Every time I see them, they are just selling themselves. I'm hapy that there are exceptions.
KDFrawg says Jun 29, 2008 12:50AM Brogan is one, I think, and sometimes Maki can be pretty darned engaging.
Beth Harte is Jun 29, 2008 12:50AM in agreement with rachel. But I'd still like to say then admit that you still embrace trad. marketing.
Beth Harte is Jun 29, 2008 12:51AM and yes, I do like Chris' blog, good stuff...except that one on being sexy.
KDFrawg says Jun 29, 2008 12:51AM I think part of the problem is mine, in that I feel stongly that life is more than a brand or a business.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:52AM I've had a few quibbles w/ Chris Brogan's blog and his Twitter packs, which I removed myself from, but he does provide good content.
Beth Harte shares Jun 29, 2008 12:52AM and I have had interactions with Geoff, he is great. He answered my email, he helped support my local PRSA, etc.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 12:53AM Chris does like to push the envelope and I sometimes feel like he uses his community as social media guinea pigs, which I called him on.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 12:54AM Geoff is another good speaker and content provider. I enjoyed playing real-life Scrabble w/ him at BlogOrlando.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 12:56AM I find it interesting that we talked about using trad. marketing to promote SM, but it seems hard to make it work in reverse
Lux says Jun 29, 2008 12:56AM there's wide latitude when it comes to what is or is not "Social Media". Still, there's a point where you have left the ballpark.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 12:56AM so then, how do you feel about marketers using SM tools to continue with trad. marketing?
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 12:58AM I think that it is not right medium - it comes off as marketing and not authentic interaction, so more brand damaging than enhancing
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:00AM it absolutely could if you aree authentically sharing with your community what you love about your job or discuss your company culture
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:00AM agrees w/ seerysm. We talked about this the other night. TimJackson being on here enhances Masi's brand.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:00AM Because mixed in with all the great conversations we have w/ Tim, he just can't help being a Masi evangelist because he is so
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:00AM Rachel your plurks do get picked up by google and would potentially found by job seekers
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:01AM agrees with connie and seerysm. I find value in the people first and track them thru to their product/brand
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:02AM we had a prof at school who said major in professors, not topics. He meant look for the best teachers
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:03AM Thats GREAT advice. I remember the material from the classes where I had brilliant teachers. Many outside my major
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:03AM my honest feeling after reading Guy's comment to Mack was disappointment, that's brand damage. I asked for clarification on his position
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:07AM that was my point for Twitter vs. Plurk for getting SM help as a marketer. I am getting to know and trust folks here.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:07AM last week it was a WP template, but a month from now it could be a consulting gig.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:08AM I know you, I know your brands, I know your passion. And I have read your blogs. That is SM!!
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:10AM SM creates a feeling of intimacy, credibility and trust - the foundation of any good relationship
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:10AM And i can honestly say if I ever needed a referral or help on a project, my community here is the first place I'd go
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:10AM Beth has a good point about TRUST. Conversations build trust. Broadcasting messages doesn't. And we want to do biz w/ ppl we know & trust.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:11AM well, I think I am always trying to help my client marry their traditional with the new, mostly in PR, so I think it's difficult to draw a
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:12AM well, we know the value of the building community piece and I think anyone who is TRULY successful builds that and skips bcasting, IMO
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:12AM this is why I am constantly harping about what Tim Jackson does with SM, because it's COMPLETELY hands-off marketing, and perfect for SM
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:12AM Beth's point is spot on. Building trust makes the methods of marketing blur a bit
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:12AM I feel ooky about broadcasting. Cripes, i feel guilty about posting my blog posts, but i only do it if i think it's relevant
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:13AM when trust is added, it shifts from being marketing to communication
epodcaster says Jun 29, 2008 01:13AM I've had the opportunity to hang out with Chris at Blogtoberfest last year and Barcamp Austin this year. He's always come across as genuine.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:13AM Chris and Pistachio both impressed me at SXSW as being zero ego
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:14AM next point, the problem is, which I will foretell tonight, as F500 marketers embrace SM, they will go after the big names for consult.
ScrapNancy says Jun 29, 2008 01:14AM I kwym Amber. I rarely post here about blog updates unless it's something I think has a broad audience.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:14AM right. It's really important for those F500 cos to learn the value of building community and trust.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM beth I think you'll see some of that, like Ford getting Scott Monty
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM And the A-listers getting the gigs will advice on using the likes of Twitter to "market."
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM agrees w/ Beth, and that is exactly why you see Christ Brogan and Pistachio using Twitter the way they do.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM funny because I remember a couple of years ago all the startups were making runs on top bloggers as 'community evangelists'
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM They are building community for the sake of building a community, using it to leverage business.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:15AM just look at Gartner on Twitter vs. Forrester. "Today Gartner released news on XYZ..."
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:17AM again, it's a SHOVE of their content vs. an invitation. I see them very differently.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:18AM My point was Gartner uses Twitter like they are sending a release over the wire.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:19AM I will say this: When you start meeting these people at confs, you see who is geniune, and who is in it for them
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:19AM I think we'll find in the coming years that companies that truly embrace SM will be like shooting stars...and others will sit back saying...
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:20AM bethharte as you and i have talked about, those that excel will not see SM as a "new" marketing vehicle, but a guidepost
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:20AM I really expected community evangelists like Chrisbrogan and Pistachio to be into plurk. I didn't see the "I'm just not into it" coming
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:21AM right Beth, the ones that embrace SM early on are going to be SO far ahead of competition.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:21AM and I think that dialogue will lead to bigger stuff on down the line as technology changes
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:22AM active discussions, the conversation is the Hallmark of a thriving community - I expected Plurk's value to be self evident to those folks
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:23AM well, I am surprised by some others who preach conversation not wanting to converse.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:23AM rachel for me, it would be the willingness to listen to what your company's community is saying about your brand and converse w/them
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 01:23AM , And great convo at your place, Mack. It's like we have simultaneous plurkshops going on!
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:23AM seerysm I would add doing things to build the conversation- new tools, environments, etc.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:23AM the tools are really irrelevant IMO, it's more the philosophy that's important
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:24AM Twitter isn't a good conversing tool, that's just my HO. It's a great broadcasting tool though.
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:24AM fostering "real"conversation I would say letting the community drive the brand
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:24AM on the point of people preaching conversation- some people really think they are encouraging/participating in convo when they say that
Te-ge Jun 29, 2008 01:25AM wonders if twitter spoiled people into thinking they could have "interaction" without having to participate **with** people much?
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:26AM agrees w/ Deb. Some people really do not know how to converse. A lot of geeks who are into social media actually lack social skills.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:27AM well, and then everyone comes from a different culture. I often feel out of place in the south, New Yorkers can seem totally harsh to me, et
Lux Jun 29, 2008 01:27AM notes that it is an interesting dynamic tension -- traditionally non-social geeks at the forefront of SM.
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 01:27AM Bethharte agree that the microblogging desc for Plurk does not encompass all that it is. it's more Socnet x IM chat that's published
Te-ge thinks Jun 29, 2008 01:28AM some reactions go beyond lack of social skills though...she knows geeks like that, but they're not going to add 21,000 followers.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:28AM those cultures- whether we are verbal, or non-verbal communicators teach us different ways of communication- direct, indirect, explicit, etc
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:29AM so I am not saying anyone LACKS social skills we all just have different ones
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:29AM I think conversation is fragmenting because you can't control where it happens anymore. Moves from blogs, to Twitter, to FF, to FB, to Plurk
Lux Jun 29, 2008 01:29AM bethharte well, consider a company with multiple products. Different communities will evolve around them, in different spaces.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 01:29AM so different communication mediums work for different people. Think about how many great athletes you know who are great coaches, few-
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:30AM Drives some bloggers crazy because the comments are not happening on their blogs anymore, so they can't track it or get Technorati "juice."
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:30AM my takeaway from my adventures in SM (note, not S AND M) is that finding a way to have dialogue is the key. can be a tool like plurk
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:30AM agrees w/ Rachel about diverse communities building up and adding to the fragmentation of conversation.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:31AM OR, just finding a better way to listen to and talk with your community
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:32AM Connie I think fragmented conversations would be excellent topic for tomorrow night's plurkshop who's turn is it to host?
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:33AM and it just means that you will need to hire more folks to engage in those customer convos. That would be success for me.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:33AM I haven't hosted yet, and it woudl actually really help me with a project i'm about to undertake if I'm lucky. can i volunteer?
Connie Jun 29, 2008 01:34AM Agreed that conversation fragmentation is tomorrow night's plurkshop. Who wants to host? Someone who hasn't done it before?
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 01:35AM I think AmberCadabra would be great for hosting tomorrow night's plurkshop. Want to advertise it for a particular time?
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:36AM sounds good! We need to get TimJackson's lazy ass to get here before 11PM one night to host one
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:37AM can I ask...conversation fragmentation from what perspective? Just want to be prepared.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 01:38AM Beth, in the sense we were talking about tonight -- because of multiple venues for conversation; and, as Rachel said because of
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 01:39AM It's not pimping ... it's inviting people to join the conversation!!!!!
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:41AM LOL I was kidding. www.phatmass.com/phorum/style_emoticons/default/pimp.gif
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:43AM can somebody link to bethharte's comments so a girl can read? I'm lost apparently (not new)
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:48AM Amber we need one of the A-Listers heads photoshopped onto the bodies of newscasters saying 'new media looks a lot like old media' LMAO
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:50AM ok, everyone. find me good headshots/photos of the alisters and email them to me at amber@altitudebranding.com
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:51AM amanda chapel/brian is probably a big fan of Guy's, since he hates 'social' media as well
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 01:52AM thanks all...this one ticked me off "think "scoble" "laporte" "steven colbert" "
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 01:55AM If we ever have a plurkshop on the topic of AC/Brian, I'm calling in sick. My blood pressure truly won't stand up to that conversation.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:56AM ok plurktastics, I need a 140 word promo on tomorrow's plurkshop. My writing skills have apparently gone on vaca
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:57AM Amber my view is that we'd be debating if we should be concerned about feedback coming on multiple sites? Should it be funnelled by 2 source
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 01:58AM i mean should we try to move it back to the source, like re-routing friendfeed comments back to blog post
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 01:59AM PS - I have a photo ready to mess with. www.aeroplastics.net/WFOR/art/04_Newscaster_4.jpg
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:01AM LMAO! Ok who are four A-Listers? Guy, Scoble, Calacanis, who else?
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:01AM Deb and Beth, maybe we should pick something else to talk about then?
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:03AM I suppose this is going to blow my chances of being listed on Alltop, eh?
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:05AM LMAO! I see what you mean Amber, which guy gets to be the girl?
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:05AM Oh, I think Tara would be good. She broke up with her live-in boyfriend ON TWITTER. Her biz partner, Chris Messina. It was messy.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:06AM but I agree Connie, the stuff with Chris was crazy, no way I would have gotten into that on Twitter
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:06AM ok, four men it is. I'll surprise you with who gets to be the girl.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:07AM Amber if you want to be an instant cewebrity tomorrow, make Arrington the girl
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:08AM I agree, Mack, Tara really does get social media, and she's not mean. Just snobby. And too many followers to really have conversation.
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 02:08AM Mack, you are a hoot! Arrington as the girl ... yeah, that would get Amber noticed all right. Not sure it's the notice she wants.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:09AM Connie I agree, I think she's like Brogan/Pistachio, no use in trying to talk to them cause they follow too many
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:10AM make Calacanis the girl! Especially after his 'it's JUST a joke' stuff about Shel/Loren this week
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:10AM MackCollier I just saw your question directed to Beth & I- thread moving so fast! I think anything you guys choose I will learn from
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:11AM Ok Deb and Beth, I think you guys can find ways to join in, you always do
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:12AM It's a good blog, but I agree with Connie, the airing dirty laundry in public is a big no-no
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:13AM the photo? I'll share it among us. Not sure I'm ripe for picking a webwide fight...?
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:14AM agrees that we're not ready for a web-wide fight. Last thing I need in my life right now. But I'm looking forward to that photo!
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:14AM I think it would be funny if anyone got pissed, i mean you stuck me on Scoble and I ran straight to Twitter to post it
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:15AM despite what they claim, A-Listers do NOT have a sense of humor
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:17AM a lot of people can't laugh at themselves, you're really good at that Mack.
Beth Harte says Jun 29, 2008 02:18AM it goes back to trust y'all! If Mack is comfortable with himself I trust that.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:19AM yeah, it's important, and more fun, to be able to laugh at yourself.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:19AM Let me tell you, a woman of a certain age with pink hair had better be able to laugh at herself. www.sucomments.com/wp-content/Images/skype%20emoticons/pinkboasmall.gif
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:21AM lol thanks guys, and the pink hair rules Connie, along with pink boa!
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 02:22AM I've gotta wind down and get some stuff done before bedtime. As always, it has been a pleasure plurking with you.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:22AM same here. I have to finish doing a research project AND clean the kitchen.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:25AM * crap, are all of you leaving me? self plurking sounds like something i should avoid.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:25AM 300? And that's not counting the conversation at your place? Wow! We sure are talkers.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:27AM Yeah, I have been hopping around to several. We probably do three times that number.
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:31AM STOP THE PRESSES! Guy Kawasaki just made his first test post from ping.fm -- think I'm feeling nauseous.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:32AM maybe HE should be the girl. After all, he wants to speak at BlogHer
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:36AM i also love that mr. big shot had to tweet to ask for a beta code for it, too. ok now I'm feeling snarky and frisky. heheh
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:37AM Mack, did I ever tell you I researched GK's early Twitter usage and actually plotted out the # of links to Truemors vs. times he @'d someone
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:37AM oh that's cool. Maybe a small ponytail on top of his head with a barrette in it.
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:38AM it basically feeds your updates to all your socnets at once. the ultimate broadcaster's medium.
MackCollier says Jun 29, 2008 02:38AM but you can do a tweetscan for him and it will show percentage of replies
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:38AM Ping.fm is some kind of autoposting app. / love the ponytail/barrette image.
DebInAustin says Jun 29, 2008 02:39AM just sticking straight up from his head. Like you do with little girls who don't have a lot of hair yet, but you want to indicate "girl"
Connie Jun 29, 2008 02:40AM Back before Tweetscan, I hand tallied all of Guy's tweets for about a 6-week period. Very interesting.
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:41AM Ping.fm works for posting to plurk via sms, which is sorely missing - but can't follow/add responses - which is sorta the point here
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 02:43AM though you'll notice: no plurking/tweeting/blogging/texting or other crap during last night's amazing concert.
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:46AM you can post to multiple sites at once as well. If you decide to give it a try, use beta code "pingofpings"
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:51AM it totally is. I use it sparingly - mostly when I travel, and solely because Plurk doesn't have SMS support right now.
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:51AM thank goodness they listen to their users, this feature HAS to be coming
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:55AM hell no. But ping allows me to post while I am on the road and then come back to check responses and answer when I am able again
seerysm says Jun 29, 2008 02:56AM I want to be able to post plurks, receive responses, and respond via SMS - the mobile interface only works intermittently on my Blackberry
sonnygill Jun 29, 2008 04:10AM sorry I missed the plurkshop but catching up and fantastic convo as usual!
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:00AM Jeesh. I go on a date w/ my daughter & miss out! Thanks for the positive comments Mack- sincerely.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:01AM I'm still floored by the Guy thing. NOT interacting is weird on a SM platform. Sorry. And I agree it hurts HIS brand. Snobbishness is not...
AmberCadabra Jun 29, 2008 05:03AM You're in good company on that thought, Tim. I just don't understand, but it must drive enough traffic that it's worth it?
Tim Jackson is Jun 29, 2008 05:13AM it though? In the long run, is it? It's the sincerity that really builds lasting communities. Sounding snobbish will eventually hurt him.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:14AM People tell me that it is my sincere love of my job that resonates with them when they read my blog or follow me elsewhere.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:15AM Again, here is my main theory behind why I do what I do; Masi is the last name of Faliero MASI.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:16AM People had a very dynamic relationship w/ him- cult like even. He was very respected. He was considered a genius.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:16AM But he was human and was not infallible. He was not perfect. But the brand was built on his personality.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:17AM I am NOT a Faliero Masi, not even close, BUT I am a person. And I have tried to simply provide a person for people to connect with.
Tim Jackson Jun 29, 2008 05:18AM By extension, they hopefully connect with the brand. If not- that's cool too.
warrenss loves Jun 29, 2008 04:57PM the idea that others are just as bothered about the Twitter self-promoters and that we are naming names.
warrenss Jun 29, 2008 04:58PM Speaking of self-promoters...what about GaryV? It's always me, me, me and no @ convo's.
mahadewa says Jun 29, 2008 11:17PM this is gonna sound weird, but while I'm reading this thread, Chris Brogan accepted my friendship
Connie says Jun 29, 2008 11:19PM Great - invite him to the plurkshop. I didn't even know Chris Brogan was on Plurk.
mahadewa says Jun 29, 2008 11:59PM I just pm chrisbrogan. See if he'll join. Btwy, I've been enjoying this conversation.
Connie Jun 30, 2008 12:03AM Thanks, we'll have a new thread starting in about 30 minutes. Follow AmberCadabra for tonight's plurkshop.