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  • Faery says
    mates about it, we could STOP freebies in SL till people get the idea that WE the designers DO NOT have to give people ANYTHING!
  • Faery says
    PLease replurk at will...also, lets get some ideas rolling because we NEED to make this a statement, I think we've all had a gut full of the
  • Faery says
    attitude of people. Designers, this is a call to arms!!!!!
  • Evie Miles wants
    to know if that includes lucky chairs.
  • Faery says
    yes it should, and these bloody hunts every two second!!!
  • Faery says
    if EVERYONE got on board with this AND advertised WHY we're doing it, it might actually go some way toward actually getting people to take
  • Faery says
    a long hard look at themselves!
  • Stephanie says
    I've always felt that events like sales were a better way to reward your customers.
  • Faery says
    *nods* totally,
  • Faery says
    Okay, so who's in?
  • Spring Candy says
    there's been so much discussion on it - I think continued behavior like this will drive more and more designers to stop giving gifts.
  • Faery says
    what it's going to do is drive more and more designers to stop designing, I don't know ONE that isn't absolutely fed up with this attitude
  • Faery says
    from people.
  • Spring Candy says
    People, they are GIFTS - you aren't owed anything. When someone gives you a gift, you say THANK YOU. Where are people's manners? Srsly.
  • Faery says
    TY Candy!
  • Spring Candy says
    it isn't everyone - some people are kind and gracious - but its the squeaky wheels who ruin things for everyone.
  • Stephanie says
    I'd already decided no more new skin freebies from me.
  • Stephanie says
    so..... I guess that means I'm in? (LOL)
  • Faery says
    *nods* I reckon though we need to put it out there why designers are stopping with the gifts
  • Faery says
    WOOOT!
  • ɐuᴉ|ina
    Coalition of Designers Against Freebies .. CODAF!!! o.O
  • Faery says
    Okay, Got Steph, Me (obviously LOL), Ziggy... who else? Evie?
  • Faery says
    hahaha Ina! that's great!
  • Stephanie says
    my decision though wasn't just about the culture of entitlement, it it's about market saturation and the devaluation of people's work.
  • Evie Miles says
    I haven't given a gift in 8 weeks. Because I discovered that between group gifts, hunts and charity gowns, I had no time left to make profit
  • Faery says
    *nods* true
  • Evie Miles says
    So I made a gown. And now I'm being abused 'cuz I charged too much for it? I think I trained people too well.
  • Faery says
    well I'll turn down hunt invite I got today and say why :-)
  • Spring Candy says
    I'm going ahead with the Oz celebration - but honestly I can count on one hand the complaints I've ever gotten about them.
  • Spring Candy says
    I don't know if they go to the designers directly.... I think I would hear about it if they did.
  • Spring Candy says
    So I dunno what I do - I do know I spend a LOT of time trying to make them fun, but it goes back to having to make a profit.
  • Faery says
    I guess the point is really, that for this to work, it would have to be a blanket thing, if most designers are giving up the advertising or
  • Faery says
    promotion that they get by being a part of these thing
  • Faery says
    s
  • Faery says
    and if a few people decide while everyone else is making a stand
  • Spring Candy says
    you'll never get everyone to give them up, Faery... We just need to come up with a new method of promotion is all.
  • Faery says
    so it would take a certain amount of commitment, and would need to have a time frame... any suggestions?
  • Spring Candy says
    Trying a ban will just stir up the entitlement folks and there will be dramahz :-(
  • Faery says
    make people pay for their hunt prizes? lol omg, can here the screeching now... well if someone has got an idea that they think would work...
  • Spring Candy says
    oh someone is doing that actually.
  • Spring Candy says
    having a hunt with an entry fee. Quite genius, I think.
  • Faery says
    lol I love that people bitch when they have to pay a nominal amount for a hunt prize that if they where buying in a store would be 10 times
  • Spring Candy says
    It eliminates the people who aren't going to spend a linden they don't have to - and gives you an audience that is willing to spend money.
  • Faery says
    as much... I guess that's the other thing, freebies are actually quality salable items now... freebies used to be...freebies
  • Faery says
    like not actually stuff that you would pay a good deal of money for
  • Spring Candy says
    well the thing there is - if you put out something that isn't your best work, people will assume that is the best you can do.
  • Spring Candy says
    I know I do that. I consider the gift to represent the quality of the designer's work. If it is subpar, I never go back.
  • Spring Candy says
    I really think its a matter of too much generosity - then it becomes expected.
  • Faery says
    *nods* true, but there is the rub, people don't have to actually buy anything anymore... and people actually SAY that, they they don't have
  • Faery says
    actually spend money to have all the flash gear in sl
  • Spring Candy says
    so lower the FREQUENCY of the gifts, not the quality.
  • Spring Candy says
    and don't make them at regular intervals, let it be sporadic and a happy surprise.
  • ɐuᴉ|ina
    i find that if you make the interval too long people leave and you wind up with unresponsive people in a group..
  • ɐuᴉ|ina
    too long - say 3 months
  • Spring Candy says
    In fact, the groups I am in where the designers do it irregularly don't really get any complaints.
  • Spring Candy says
    well yes, so do one this week, one next week and then go about 5 or 6 weeks.
  • ɐuᴉ|ina
    hasn't yet heard of a designer who does Freebie Friday's though!
  • Spring Candy says
    Tuli is a good example of that, I think. She's generous but not on a time schedule.
  • Spring Candy says
    I dunno, maybe mute is the True Answer LOL (LOL)
  • Tigs says
    I'm a learner designer; I am now convinced freebies are not that effective. ty for educational comments.
  • Spring Candy says
    there's just no excuse for the comments Evie is getting. When I went to buy my GORGEOUS dress,
  • Spring Candy says
    someone said they hate when they can't buy new dresses. Come on, you can't get a starbucks for the RL cost of this gown. SL costs money.
  • Spring Candy says
    Deal with it. All entertainment costs money. OY, people! X-(
  • Morgaine Price says
    faery, i had the exact same idea a few months back.. to cut down on freebies is a good thing but to be realistic, i dont think
  • Morgaine Price says
    all the new just starting ( this week to month ) will excpect to use freebies to get traffic and spend awareness
  • Faery says
    s'all good Morgaine, am currently working on an alternative to freebies... I think that's what the glitch is...people still want the promoti
  • Faery says
    on... so am working with a mad genius person as we speak, to try and work something that is appealing to customers, and designers alike! :-D
  • Morgaine Price says
    but there are many who take the freebies and still manage to buy items
  • Morgaine Price says
    this might hurt those responsible freebie shoppers
  • Faery says
    true that, and it's sad that a growing number of self centered people will ruin that for people who do get freebies and still shop
  • Morgaine Price says
    maybe if its a temporary halt it might help to get the message out
  • Faery says
    but the bottom line is, this attitude in sl is growing, designers are considering packing up their shops & moving out...
  • Faery says
    yeah we thought about that, but sadly many people just wont go for total ban, hence the trying to find marketing alternatives
  • Morgaine Price says
    idea.. what if we all switch to loyalty gifts
  • Morgaine Price says
    keep the freebies we have out , and make loyalty gifts
  • Faery says
    *nods* that's what we're thinking ;-)
  • Faery says
    I have a mad genius scripter here *points at Hez* we're just bopping around some ideas, so if you have any, let us know!
  • Talyn says
    I would be forever grateful for an alternative to handouts that still encourage new visitors and reward the loyal
  • Theo x Zanzo says
    after the bunny hop fiasco, we're only doing occasional group gifts now and have a system where you have to be in the group to get it.
  • Theo x Zanzo says
    the Hop finally showed me the ugly side of SL freebie culture, such as being told to "bite" someone in my own store for getting in their way
  • AnaTrefusis is
    thinking if every single customer boycotted every designer on the freebie boycott then SL business
  • AnaTrefusis says
    which is based on nothing beyond internet access and the whim of LL would dry up and no one would make any money at all
  • AnaTrefusis says
    I <3 designers who give good freebies and many of us spend a lot of money in stores because of them
  • Faery says
    Hi Anastasia & Gauge, thanks for visiting my plurk, would love for you to read MORE than just the opening comment, infact I highly recommend
  • Faery says
    you read the "backstory" link IN this plurk AND read the plurks surrounding this one... that way you might get a little bit more of an
  • Faery says
    insight and can qualify your opinion of this plurk, and apparently of me :-P thanks :-D

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