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  • DebInAustin says
    excellent indeed! And Anna and Heather are like the 'What Not to Wear" ladies of Social Media. Too funny!
  • Connie thinks
    DebinDenver is right on the money. They are the UK "What Not to Wear" social media sisters. They make sharing knowledge fun.
  • DebInAustin says
    They were so funny! And since you said you want to have a convo about this interview, connie, I have some questions.
  • Connie says
    You bet. Fire away.
  • DebInAustin says
    OK, so they asked if it is impossible for sm. bus. to distinguish themselves online now that lrg cos. are getting into SM, can you elaborate
  • DebInAustin says
    that was awesome. Why are Brits so into Dallas?
  • Connie
    It's one of the TV shows from the US that was popular w/ Brits - the stereotypical oil-rich Texas family.
  • DebInAustin says
    she, I forget who, described you as a leader. How do you stay a leader without losing your audience?
  • Connie
    SM can make a large company seem small and personal, by showing the human side of a copy -- employees. OTOH a small company can give the
  • Connie
    appearance of being much bigger than it is. So SM can have a leveling effect.
  • Connie
    Not sure I understand your question about being a leader.
  • DebInAustin says
    going back to lrg/small co., is there a difference in the type of SM they use, or is it dependent upon their industry?
  • Connie
    Back to first question, it IS possible for a small company to stand out.
  • Connie
    difference in the venue, not necessarily type of SM. In other words, you could use the same type of SM, say a socnet like Ning in very diff
  • Connie
    ways depending on your industry and your customers.
  • DebInAustin says
    let's go back to the leader question later, if that's ok w/you
  • Connie
    Sure. one more point to elaborate on this one.
  • Connie
    The important question to ask when contemplating social media for a company is not What should we do?
  • Connie
    The right questions are Why? and Who?
  • Connie
    WHY does your company want to do social media. Because the boss heard about blogs and says, "Get me one of those?"
  • DebInAustin says
    right, simple marketing questions. I think some people worry about limited resources affecting ability to do SM, I think it takes creativity
  • Connie
    Maybe blogging is right for your company, maybe not. Perhaps just listening to customers is what they need to do.
  • Connie
    And that brings up the Why and Who? What goals do you hope to accomplish with SM? Who are your customers/clients/constituents?
  • Connie
    With whom do you want to use SM to build relationships?
  • DebInAustin says
    The WHY part I hear all the time. Middle managers hire me b/c their boss saw Facebook and now wants a page.
  • Connie
    of that question. :-)
  • DebInAustin says
    again it goes back to the company's ability/desire to listen and learn from their customers/market. Then think about how to engage
  • Connie
    I like your point about creativity w/ resources. SM are low-cost entry, but require investment of time.
  • Connie
    Exactly. It really is basic marketing principles - communicaating with customers/market. But there are new tools to make it easier.
  • DebInAustin says
    Yeah, I find that a lot of the time corp leaders want SM b/c it's "free," but they don't think about content as costing $, so staff become
  • Connie
    And creativity goes a long way.
  • Connie
    Quickly become overwhelmed. And right now there is no place to go "learn" social media -- beginning to see a few classes at university level
  • Connie
    But mostly learned peer-to-peer or through conferences.
  • DebInAustin says
    and most people I work with late 20's - 40ish are all mid-mgrs who do PR, but never learned SM. Most only use e-mail or text.
  • Connie
    I'm doing first of what I hope is a series of workshops on Friday. It's small group (25) hands-on, bring your laptop and when you
  • Connie
    leave you'll have a Twitter account, a LinkedIn profile, Google reader and Flickr. And you'll know how to use them.
  • DebInAustin says
    their boss' want to snap their fingers and get a SM app immediately, I guess that shows they weren't very engaged in the market in the 1st p
  • Connie
    And you'll have a built-in network of friends begun with fellow workshop attendees.
  • DebInAustin says
    oh that's great. I am working on something larger scale for pre-DNC communication with an EC Dev group to help transmit info like traffic,
  • Connie
    There is a real educational process in employees having to learn and then persuade bosses why they need social media & convince them it's
  • Connie
    worth being paid to do.
  • DebInAustin says
    pkg, road closures, etc. using micro-blogging. We want to use a similar approach 2 teach office mgrs/PR/prop mgrs how to get their org on SM
  • Connie
    That's excellent -- teaching them updated ways to communicate
  • DebInAustin says
    you know why part of that is a challenge here, is because when I visit companies, I realize their staff don't have current software, know
  • DebInAustin says
    how to use shortcut keys, how to use wikis for office work. They don't invest in education, so hard for staff to explain why they need when
  • DebInAustin says
    mgmt doesn't value computer literacy in the first place.
  • Connie
    Yep, you've hit a nerve with that.
  • Connie
    A local reporter/blogger spoke at a panel we did a year ago at SMC, about the social media news release. He pointed out the reality that
  • Connie
    most people working at the newspaper are on computers 2 or 3 generations old and have not idea what an RSS feed is.
  • DebInAustin says
    then when someone who knows this stuff comes in, its like you are some genius who knows this stuff, but the reality is you just took the
  • Connie
    Absolutely. That's how you become an "expert" in this field -- you just take the time to learn it. Stay up late plurking LOL
  • Connie
    and attending conferences and meeting people and sharing what you know.
  • DebInAustin says
    I am doing some teaching on the social media release next week and will post on it the week after.
  • Connie
    Funny comment on my "five white men" blog post about a Chamber event on new marketing tools and technologies ... snooty attitude ...
  • Connie
    and said something to the effect, "Unlike you I didn't Twitter my way to prominence."
  • DebInAustin says
    that's a good point about sharing what you know. It seems like a lot of corporate environments don't foster sharing, so how will stf learn?
  • MackCollier
    connie you know it would be absolutely perfect to have you moderating a panel entitled 'Five White Women Talk About Social Media' LMAO!
  • DebInAustin says
    that's the thing, I think folks still have a pejorative view and dismiss twitter meanwhile they are being run over by a train
  • Connie
    So right. And there are some affordable and very productive conferences to attent. Small, hands-on workshops like mine and the bigger SBMU
  • Connie
    Unleased that MackCollier is speaking at with Jennifer Laycock.
  • Connie says
    I would LOVE to moderate that "Five White Women" social media panel.
  • DebInAustin says
    I saw the SBMU, but have a race that weekend that is a rather large commitment, so can't attend. Will look for other opportunities
  • DebInAustin says
    do you think social media is a kind of misnomer? I think we have always had social media- phones, rolodex, b-cards. Not that it matter
  • DebInAustin says
    at this point, it has already been named. Do you think it will break into different fields for the lay person, or stay lumped as one field?
  • Connie
    Not real happy w/ the name, but we're stuck with it -- until it becomes so commonplace that it's just what we do and doesn't require a name.
  • Connie
    I explain social media with a Venn diagram I created: the three circles are technology, media and sociology. Social media is the sweet spot
  • Connie
    where they all intersect.
  • Connie
    Technology is driving the movement, giving us new tools that allow us all to become media -- publishers of our own content.
  • Connie
    But the real power is in the sociological aspect, using the personal publishing tools to create and foster relationships.
  • DebInAustin says
    I agree and I think, like the earlier discussion about pay-for-plurk there is this rush to use it for financial gain rather than think about
  • Connie
    Social Networks are called "social" because the are about people rather than computers. But in the same way an office's computers are
  • Connie
    connected w/ hubs and nodes, social networks connect people.
  • DebInAustin says
    the larger benefits. I am not against monetizing some aspects, but to start with a UGC type of interface then flip to pay breaks trust
  • DebInAustin says
    yeah, it's another kind of web. So I see you tried to recruit others. Should we start a new thread to try and hook them?
  • Connie
    Sure, go for it.
  • DebInAustin says
    nah, you start. I'll be the plant
  • MackCollier
    BTW since Connie is catching her breath....I've already linked to this convo on twitter and friendfeed, amazing use of threaded convos
  • DebInAustin says
    you rock mack! the master of connecting us all! Connie started new thread.
  • Connie
    uh oh - should we stay with this thread since Mack has linked it?
  • DebInAustin says
    yeah, let's do that. But I will hold back, looks like giggey couldn't get a Plurk in edgwise
  • giggey says
    lol, reading as fast as I can :-)
  • Connie
    Okay, we'll sit back and let the others chime in.
  • DebInAustin says
    sorry people. i had been thinking about that while swimming today.
  • KDFrawg says
    Did you see the survey (Gartner?) that said a large percentage knew SM was important, but just didn's understand it?
  • DebInAustin says
    didn't see the Gartner survey, but makes sense. Like Connie said, no education in schools yet, so people confused
  • Connie
    Didn't see that survey. Have a link by any chance?
  • KDFrawg says
    The ones that seemed the most confused were senior management. There is an understanding gap at both low and high ages.
  • MackCollier
    ok does the term 'social media' make sense to everyone? I keep seeing people complaining about it wanting to change it, but why?
  • KDFrawg says
    The kids will catch on, because kids do, but senior managers won't, in all likelihood.
  • Connie
    Now that's very interesting. Panel I'm supposed to be on tomorrow (partner is filling in for me) is how social media bridges gaps between
  • Connie
    generations and cultures.
  • DebInAustin says
    I was surprised that a client's 20 year-old intern didn't seem to know much about SM. She subscribed to my blog.
  • servantofchaos says
    we had a similar discusson last night at PubCamp in Sydney ... the old business models are being applied to social "media"
  • Connie
    I gave an explanation of social media earlier in this thread; I think the resistance from businesses is that "social" makes it sound
  • Connie
    like it's not for business.
  • KDFrawg says
    a lot of people see the "media" in social media as being web pages, as in Digg, Mixx, and Reddit, period.
  • servantofchaos says
    that is where the disconnect begins. Maybe we need a new word for "media" in a socio-business framework
  • Connie
    good point, Frawggy.
  • MackCollier
    ok Connie I can't be held accountable for missing convos that were happening when there were replies every 2 secs ;-)
  • DebInAustin says
    I just think it is a mis-nomer we've always had it with traditional social devices, this is just online social media
  • KDFrawg says
    That's amazing DebIn Denver!
  • servantofchaos says
    from the business side, they see social media as another channel
  • KDFrawg says
    Most kids are pretty conversant with SM.
  • giggey says
    when vendors position internal networks, at least the ones I worked, they always talk about collaboration and communities
  • DebInAustin says
    I think "media" when you are describing apps/web pages, etc. leave some people in the dust.
  • Connie
    Sorry for being a speed demon. I type about 110 wpm.
  • KDFrawg says
    I have tried to think of a good replacement for the word "media", but have not.
  • giggey says
    and stay away from social networks
  • DebInAustin says
    I think kids are conversant in SM, but are they conversant in using it to market?
  • KDFrawg says
    I type 24 typos per minuts.
  • KDFrawg says
    See?
  • KDFrawg says
    Good point, DebInDenver!
  • Connie
    Kids do not understand business application of things they take for granted - like MySpace or Facebook or WoW.
  • giggey says
    Jive for example uses spaces for clearspace internal and communities for clearspace external
  • KDFrawg says
    When they think social, too many are thinking :social only."
  • MackCollier
    connie businesses don't either, they view social media as monetization channel, not communication channel
  • DebInAustin says
    I like the use of communities and collaboration. It takes time to help people realize that SM helps them do something they think they were a
  • giggey says
    funny when they go through all the trouble and then get a customer calling for Facebook for the enterprise
  • Connie
    Agree with the disconnect among both generations - young just entering workforce and older "that stuff's just for kids" group ... who
  • Connie
    suddenly go, "Oh, wait. You mean we can use this as another marketing channel?"
  • servantofchaos says
    SM can only assist when you have collaborative behavior already in place within an org -- if that is there,then SM takes off
  • Connie
    Giggey I've seen the same thing. But lately SM has become a buzzword and agencies are beginning to add that to their offerings ...
  • Connie
    whether they know anything about it or not.
  • Connie
    I think it's fine to call it collaboration or Web2.0 instead of social media. You have to understand where the person is coming from.
  • giggey says
    servantofchaos, yeah, and when this is the case you benefit more from an org change consultant than a SM one
  • DebInAustin says
    I think another point that increases fear of SM is that some people think online communication decreases interaction, hence the fear
  • KDFrawg says
    when Ford hires an SM manager, you know it's gone mainstream.
  • servantofchaos says
    connie the agencies tend to treat it like another channel as well ... limited view and even less real experience
  • KDFrawg says
    How do we get the senior / older management types to buy in?
  • Connie
    My thoughts exactly Frawg. That could be a tipping point of sorts.
  • Connie
    The Ford thing, hiring Scott Monty.
  • KDFrawg says
    I think so, too.
  • DebInAustin says
    ford is taking a leadership role, but a lot of people/orgs need to follow before it is mainstream
  • MackCollier
    KDFrawg, Pepsi was looking for a Social Media Strategist a few weeks ago, not sure if pos has been filled
  • KDFrawg says
    too many of them are too comfortable and have stopped learning.
  • MackCollier
    Jeremiah Owyang predicted that 2008 was the first year that corporations would start setting aside budgets for SM
  • giggey says
    need to split social media adoption into 2. First a collaboration and openness adoption then technology adoption
  • MackCollier
    the fact that they are hiring roles to manage SM proves that the budgets are in place
  • KDFrawg says
    Again, we aye back to a tipping point, as connie says.
  • Connie
    Couple of weeks ago Josh Bernoff was asked where agencies are on this issue. First: denial; it's just a fad. Then: oh, yeah, Jimmy does that
  • servantofchaos says
    MackCollier ... interestingly Ford had already been dabbling with BoldMoves etc but I think that was agency led
  • DebInAustin asks
    so how long, from when corporations implement to it becoming widespread in use?
  • KDFrawg says
    Thanks, MarkCollier, I'll look up the Pepsi situation.
  • Connie
    and the next stage is scrambling to hire/collaborate with someone who understands social media. That's where agencies are now.
  • KDFrawg says
    That's where many larger corps are, too.
  • servantofchaos says
    now they are bringing that in-house ... I think there will be more of that insourcing happening -- as SM is about competitive strategy
  • Connie
    That was the initial response of many PR/advertising agencies. They tried to deny that SM was viable.
  • KDFrawg says
    he wonders how many will hire someone and how many will rent expertise?
  • Connie
    KDFrawg think you'll see more large companies following Ford's example. Small to mid-sized will probably hire consultants.
  • DebInAustin says
    giggey makes a good point though, you have to foster the collaborative environment and then the technology
  • Connie
    At least I hope so. (LOL)
  • KDFrawg says
    And do we think that there are enough good people to fill the perceived need>
  • Connie
    Not necessarily, giggey. Dell did the opposite. They created IdeaStorm and then later had to create
  • KDFrawg says
    connie is probably exactly correct.
  • Connie
    EmployeeStorm to help people learn to feel free interacting with customers (and each other) online.
  • Connie
    Their PR/SM people will tell you that their blogging efforts have transformed the corporate culture. BUT and this is a big BUT
  • Connie
    The move toward social media came from the top down (w/ Michael Dell) rather than bottom-up from employees.
  • KDFrawg says
    so noted. Look at all the "expert" blogs!
  • servantofchaos says
    actually might start using Social Media Charlatan on my blog
  • KDFrawg says
    < smile >
  • DebInAustin says
    that's interesting because I always think of SM as being "grassroots" driven
  • Connie asks
    Gavin, to expose the snake oil salesmen? :-)
  • giggey says
    connie, but the fact that they created ideastorm to begin with would suggest their company culture fosters collaboration to begin with
  • DebInAustin says
    oh, I wanted to use charlatan!
  • giggey says
    they then created a channel to spread it internally
  • Connie
    Giggey, no they had a culture of never speaking publicly unless it had been cleared by legal or corp comms.
  • KDFrawg says
    LOL!
  • DebInAustin says
    but who generated Ideastorm? Mgmt, or entire staff?
  • giggey says
    most do :-)
  • servantofchaos says
    connie ... mostly at the big agencies ... they think SM is a facebook page or some dodgy SEO/blogs
  • Connie
    Management
  • KDFrawg says
    I'm thinking if SM is a situation where middle-up adoptive strategies might work.
  • Connie
    Dell's situation is different because it usually does start more like grassroots.
  • servantofchaos says
    had to bite my tongue with Ogilvy in NY ;-)
  • giggey says
    so management was able to take the leap and to take that leap you need a different mindset
  • KDFrawg says
    I can see it happening in less-hidebound organizations.
  • DebInAustin says
    we're just in this period of transition, there is a broad definition of what SM is, people know its cool and their kids are more fluent
  • Connie
    Dell was taking a beating in the blogosphere. Top management wanted to change that.
  • giggey says
    best adoption is both bottom up and and top down. Need the champions and need to build it into business processes, not only grassroots
  • servantofchaos says
    the grassroots thing is easier in tech companies because there is an understanding of open source ethos
  • Connie
    servantofchaos I run into those people all the time and you do have to bite your tongue.
  • DebInAustin says
    giggey, I agree. So it goes back to the human relationships inside the co to foster change that everyone buys into
  • KDFrawg says
    That's a good general rule. giggey. Is there anythng about SM that negates it?
  • servantofchaos says
    giggey yes, identifying the 1% of the 1% and allowing them to evangelize
  • KDFrawg says
    when I was doing business process analysis, I was amazed by how many paths there were to an idea's success.
  • DebInAustin says
    this all goes to Connie's earlier point SM is a tool, all your other ducks need to be in a row to make it work
  • giggey says
    the top down support is key because they have the power to get rid of or reposition competing technologies, instead of just add new tool
  • KDFrawg says
    I hesitate to use the word viral, but some came in the side door and spread instantly.
  • servantofchaos says
    KDFrawg that is why SM can work in orgs at it surfaces the ecosystem overlaps and value networks that are otherwise hidden
  • KDFrawg says
    That is true, giggey. At least to mgmt has to be supportive, and to do that they have to understand.
  • KDFrawg says
    Top mgmt*
  • servantofchaos says
    clever internal marketing can virally enable change by giving it a form of social/employee currency
  • Connie
    I just pinged Mack on Twitter and told him we had over 200 responses for him.
  • DebInAustin says
    KDFrawg and that they are adding value to their employees by implementing this. New skills, learning, etc.
  • servantofchaos has
    to head off ... will check back in later!
  • DebInAustin says
    So here's a new one. How do you get people who don't use SM to get on plurk and get going on it? How to introduce?
  • Connie
    Bye, Gavin.
  • KDFrawg says
    Hasta luego!
  • giggey says
    I'm heading off too, night all and thanks for letting me play!
  • Connie
    I'll let you know on Friday after my workshop. LOL
  • KDFrawg says
    I have some clients, Deb, that just won't come.
  • Connie
    Night, giggey - thanks for joining us!
  • KDFrawg says
    They will tweet, but Plurk scares them.
  • Connie
    Actually, we'll be demoing Twitter. But in case Twitter is down, I'm going to switch to Plurk.
  • sschablow says
    connie so why is there not a mechanism to notify someone of their responses on here? only thing missing?
  • DebInAustin says
    Connie made a point earlier that she will teach a class where a group learns new tech together. It gives them a network to start with.
  • KDFrawg says
    Good night, giggey!
  • KDFrawg says
    I have been trying to figure out the dtabase schema. Unless I am wrong, they have all the data they need.
  • Connie
    sschablow Being able to find responses to responses (i.e. return to a threaded conversation) is not very functional here.
  • KDFrawg says
    It may not be in the right place, but they could certainly build a dynamic view.
  • KDFrawg says
    all that said, I'll bet they are working on it. But it would mean a lot of indexes and thus some performance loss.
  • MackCollier
    apologies for ducking out, when to check on Twitter and those uppidy women were volunteering me to wear cow costume at SBMU!
  • Connie thinks
    seeing Mack in cow costume might be worth the trip to Ohio. :-)
  • DebInAustin says
    I like the exposure I get to all the other plurks as I scan through to find the response to my plurk
  • DebInAustin says
    Be careful that you are not near the Ag school at OSU, you might get conscripted mackcollier
  • MackCollier
    hey you saw I told Jen I'd do it if she wore puppy costume, she folded! YES!!!!
  • Connie
    I think a lot of the problem could be alleviated by adopting a different strategy -- what we've a talked about -- fewer friends on Plurk
  • Connie
    but more in-depth discussion.
  • Connie
    I'm slowly weeding some people out of my timeline.
  • MackCollier
    apologies if you covered this, but what exactly is topic of your workshop on friday, Connie?
  • Connie
    Mack, we're teaching a small class - 25 -- how to use five new tools. It's a hands-on workshop, everybody brings laptop to participate.
  • Connie
    When they leave they will have a LinkedIn profile, Twitter account, know how to use Flickr and they'll have Google reader configured.
  • AmberCadabra
    I am not uppidy. Just determined. :-)
  • DebInAustin says
    connie you are right, as this conversation goes along, I am having to mute convos I am not participating in
  • MackCollier
    Connie that sounds similar to what we'll be doing at SBMU, we call them 'classes', about 25 usually, great learning environment
  • Connie
    This is a prototype - trial run. We'll refine the content and do a Texas Tour.
  • KDFrawg says
    I was very sorry to see Maki promoting the mindless addition of friends today. It may be right for Maki but it is not right for me.
  • Connie
    Me either, Frawg.
  • DebInAustin says
    and they can all leave and teach their colleagues, friends, family
  • MackCollier
    I get in trouble when determined and cute women start getting uppidy ;-)
  • Connie
    Most of the SM conferences focus on theory with some strategy. We're teaching tactics and basic implementation of social media tools.
  • KDFrawg says
    There is too little time to go for quantity when quality is close at hand.
  • AmberCadabra
    ok, I *AM* cute. so that's ok. :
  • Connie
    Glad to hear SBMU is taking a similar approach. People leave the typical conf. w/ their eyes glazed over. They have no idea where to start.
  • KDFrawg says
    It is nice to see it being taught below the level of strategy. Tactics are under-rated.
  • AmberCadabra
    But don't think that negates the cow costume. period. How bout a cow WITH a pink feather boa?
  • MackCollier
    Connie it's a tough line to walk, want to make sure they understand the reasons why it works, but they want real-world examples
  • Connie
    You can strategize till the cows come home (no offense mackcollier), but at some point you've got to roll up your sleeves & go to work.
  • DebInAustin says
    I got asked to do a *10 minute* Social Media 101 for an Ec Dev org, now how do you do that? I used analogies and images of similar media
  • MackCollier
    right! Speakers have small audiences and are great about answering questions before during and after sessions
  • Connie
    Hmmm. I've actually seen a cow w/ a pink feather boa -- at a place I used to work out called Goddess Fit. Their mascot is Heiferdite. :-)
  • KDFrawg says
    I stayed at Peachtree Plaza at the same time Bessie was at a Borden dinner there.
  • MackCollier
    connie I think we talked about this a bit earlier today, the idea of trying to set a topic each night beforehand so everyone knows
  • KDFrawg says
    It's odd to see a cow led into a the ballroom there.
  • AmberCadabra
    connie there's absolutely no substitute in SM for getting in and getting your hands dirty.
  • KDFrawg says
    Exactly/
  • Connie thinks
    we need an online SMU - Social Media University. This must be the teachers' lounge. B-)
  • Connie
    MackCollier, I like that idea. And someone suggested we should tie it to AoC --
  • KDFrawg says
    Until you have seen the interactions, the strategy can easily put you to sleep.
  • Connie
    Each night someone present their chapter from the first AoC and open it up for discussion. Could blog the chapter, then plurk the convo.
  • KDFrawg says
    That would be great!
  • DebInAustin says
    going back to teaching theory v. strategy/tactics the challenge is theory motivates some learners and practicalities motivate others
  • KDFrawg says
    Very, true. Which changes the strategy and tactics of the teacher. :-)
  • Connie
    I would hate to limit to AoC authors, though. So for those who want to "present" they could do a different topic. Each night have diff host.
  • KDFrawg says
    Honestly, I find it best if you weave it together, going back and forth, so as not to lose anyone for too long.
  • Connie
    The Age of Conversation -- collaborative book a number of us tweeters and plurkers worked on last year. Each chapter is 400 words.
  • Connie
    103 authors from 4 or 5 countries
  • DebInAustin says
    wow! I like the cross-cultural piece!
  • Connie
    Unbelievable experience. servantofchaos and Drew McLellan originated the idea and served as editors. One in Iowa, other in Australia
  • Connie
    And they never met until this past April in NYC at Blogger Social 08.
  • KDFrawg says
    The world is getting more fun by the advancing-technology day.
  • DebInAustin says
    In grad school we did that (in japan) we had people from 15 cultures working on a book on globablization and borders. It was fun.
  • Connie
    We're already working on AoC2008 - 275 collaborators. Don't know how many countries yet for this year's version.
  • Connie
    All the proceeds from the book go to a children's charity.
  • Connie
    w00t (woot) that was comment #300.
  • MackCollier
    Connie that's a great idea, only problem I see is, only a few of us that have written an AoC chapter are active here, right?
  • Connie
    That's true, Mack. And we want to be inclusive.
  • Connie
    The other idea was to do a book club type group -- perhaps around Rohit Bhargava's Personality Not Included.
  • KDFrawg says
    This place needs a ballroom.
  • KDFrawg says
    With a bar.
  • Connie
    I have a good idea, but it's going to take more than 140 characters to explain it. :-)
  • KDFrawg says
    Go for it.
  • DebInAustin says
    that hasn't stopped any of us so far!
  • Connie
    For book club. Take turns hosting it on our blogs, and instead of Plurk we use CoverItLive, which embeds the chat into your blog and
  • MackCollier
    Connie what if we do this...have some sort of 'list' that people can sign up for what night and topic they want to talk about
  • Connie
    also saves the transcript for later reading.
  • Connie
    There, didn't take too much more than 140.
  • MackCollier
    then everyone can choose which topic to pay attention to
  • Connie
    And you can add multimedia.
  • MackCollier
    like on sunday night, everyone posts their topics/days for the week
  • Connie
    I like the idea of the list, Mack.
  • Connie
    Do we do it all on the same night, or take turns hosting on different nights?
  • DebInAustin says
    could you have several going on several different nights?
  • MackCollier
    i would think whoever wants to pick a topic/day can, like we could have 3 ppl signed up to talk about diff topics on monday,etc
  • MackCollier
    yes i could see multiple topics each night
  • KDFrawg says
    This is very, very good.
  • Connie
    If we keep it on Plurk, we might want to do different nights so we don't dilute the audience.
  • Connie
    By that I mean we are only a handful and of course we'll recruit more participants, but we don't want to throw a party & no one show up.
  • KDFrawg says
    maybe we could use both venues?
  • DebInAustin says
    how many folks do you think can be on one thread for any one talk and not jam up the works?
  • KDFrawg says
    I'm trying to think that through technically.
  • Connie
    If we do it on our blogs, we would be using Plurk (and Twitter, I'm sure) to drive traffic to each other's blogs.
  • MackCollier
    Deb you and Connie have basically driven a 328 reply convo here ;-)
  • Connie
    DebinDenver excellent question. We could break Plurk in short order.
  • KDFrawg says
    It should not matter until the number gets very high. Hundreds, at least.
  • KDFrawg says
    Hundreds of people subsribed to the thread, I man.
  • DebInAustin says
    I am not worried about breaking plurk, more about people having the problem that giggey had- not able to get in on a convo
  • KDFrawg says
    There is no logical limit to the number of responses in a thread, I don't think.
  • DebInAustin says
    yeah Mack Collier, i think you advertised (pimped) that video like, 3 times today :-D
  • KDFrawg says
    Yes, somebody is going to have to be friends with everybody.
  • KDFrawg says
    Then that person will have to start the tr=hreads.
  • Connie
    I want to experiment w CoverItLive so what if we try it out there first and post links on Plurk? We had between 20-40 ppl on live blog thr.
  • KDFrawg says
    I saw a thread last night with 1300.
  • Connie
    Good grief!
  • MackCollier
    we'll be there in a few mins at this rate ;-)
  • Connie
    1300 - that was a talkative group.
  • MackCollier
    whats the url for cover it live?
  • KDFrawg says
    I think connie is right. Maybe I can get KiethHanson to write something to move items from there to here.
  • KDFrawg says
    Yes, here. It was one of those fairly dimb topics, too.
  • DebInAustin says
    I like the CoverLite we can pop over to Plurk periodically to post, kind of like we did tonight btwn threads.
  • DebInAustin says
    sorry, coveritlive, see what I mean?
  • DebInAustin says
    I like the gong sound
  • KDFrawg says
    That looks interesting.
  • Connie
    CoverItLive embeds a live multimedia chat room into your blog.
  • KDFrawg says
    so I see.
  • Connie
    And saves it so it can be viewed/read later.
  • KDFrawg says
    is it fairly smooth, i.e. not jerky?
  • Connie
    It ran pretty good the one time I participated in a live event. And when we had a problem w/ something the CEO jumped on and responded.
  • Connie
    We could do a test-run on my personal blog where I rarely post. Just a small group like this.
  • KDFrawg says
    cool!
  • DebInAustin says
    we could test run it some time. There seem to be a fair number of us on this thread and others we can recruit.
  • DebInAustin says
    great minds think alike ;-)
  • KDFrawg says
    What kind of numbers could be expected?
  • Connie
    Okay, I've got to get to bed and rest up before Root Canal tomorrow. (I put it in all caps because it is a Big Event.)
  • Connie
    But I'll try a test run tomorrow night and will let you know when I have it set up.
  • KDFrawg says
    Yes, IT is. :-)
  • Connie
    KDFrawg. If we promote it on blogs, Twitter, and Plurk we might have a big crowd.
  • DebInAustin says
    I have to bail too. It was fun!
  • KDFrawg says
    It's been great!
  • Connie
    Good night, all. We will continue this discussion tomorrow. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. Many thanks.
  • KDFrawg says
    I'll do some looking into the service.
  • DebInAustin says
    I enjoyed it too. So much fun, so little time.
  • KDFrawg says
    Just think! A cast of thousands!
  • KDFrawg says
    Get some rest, connie, and come back tomorrow all better!
  • MackCollier
    good luck tomorrow Connie! I am going to go back and read this to see what I missed, tomorrow ;-)
  • DebInAustin says
    good night everyone!
  • Connie
    Thanks, all. MackCollier - you've set the bar high. 382 responses.
  • KDFrawg says
    I'm going to wander off and see what else plurk has to offer tonight. It won't be as good as this. :-)
  • MackCollier
    lol you and Deb took over this thread early on, it belongs to you guys
  • Beth Harte says
    WOW! Sorry to have missed this, but was catching up on sleep! ;-) I have learned a bunch (& took notes!) reading 385 plurks!
  • Beth Harte loves
    the idea of a book club & also loves the idea of trying CoverItLive on a blog(s).
  • Beth Harte says
    Thank you for sharing some new apps that I have never heard of that I think will help w/what I am considering implementing at work.
  • servantofchaos is
    amazed that this conversation just keeps shifting and getting better!

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