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  • the rock
    yeah, it's not. i saw reports they're turning away air traffic, too.
  • Adorjan
    I heard the same about the air traffic, yeah
  • Adorjan
    sounds like phones and electricity are down at least in some places, too.
  • the rock
    anonymous is already working to try to hook people up with other means for getting information out
  • the rock
    and i've heard cell operation is down in some areas too :/
  • Chibi
    O_o
  • tronja307020
    Syria's the one that's got the covil war going right now,'right?
  • sammo.
    fffffffffffff
  • Tanjaku
    Oh god ;;
  • buck nasty
    syria baby come back...
  • Adorjan
    also, yes, they are indeed fighting a civil war rn.
  • Foxface
    and the rebels had started taking a good amount of ground lately
  • the rock
    and re: the airport, it's not just that they're turning away flights
  • the rock
    they are ordering everyone out of their airspace
  • the rock
    or at least some reports are saying, i'm trying to get major news outlet confirmation
  • goth xena
    i can't find fuckall
  • the rock
    okay i see reports that there was military action near the damascus airport that led to the airport closing, but i can't confirm they're outright turning air traffic out of their national air space
  • the rock
    and commercial air traffic has been halted according to this
  • cuddlebutt~
    That's extremely worrying.
  • c_rowles
    dammit why do I have class, I want to put on Al Jazeera
  • (=゚ω゚)ノ
    yeah things have been horrendous there already, i saw a photo slideshow a couple of weeks ago that was just terrible for the amount of devastation
  • scarlet☆starlet
    They are trying to cut out any way that the rebels have to communicate and organize. ;;
  • tronja307020
    This is so scary and sad. I'm trying to remember, the govt in Syria was the one that was shooting civillians, right?
  • tronja307020
    Like...I think I saw a news report a while back where young girls were getting gunned down and shit...;_;
  • ⚖ deducing
    Yeah I've heard if you dont have a generator or a satellite connection you can't get anything. It's just gone like they've gone and physically disconnected all the telecomm stuff
  • ⚖ deducing
    (generator also relevant to general electricity outages)
  • effef
    they probably disconnected the main line cables
  • effef
    whatever internet syria had was piped from the outside, so they disconnected it
  • (=゚ω゚)ノ
    the syrian government has been bombing civilians pretty indiscriminately yeah
  • tronja307020
    This hurts to watch unfold, God.
  • ⚖ deducing
    and they know if they silence the population like this they can get all KINDS of stuff done during the blackout
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    the thing with the shooting of civilians, this all started with the Arab Spring. There have been a large number of defects from the military due to the fact that they have been told to shoot indiscriminately
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    the military has also done things like take children and people they have arrested and used them as shields--so rumors from the rebels has stated
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    that's not including the interrogations or the clear signs of torture that some bodies are reported as having
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    however, everyone ALSO has to take into account that this is what we are hearing from the rebels and Syria DID NOT let foreign journalists in
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    a lot of journalists have actually had to sneak their way in to get any sort of scoop on these events as they have unfolded for the past 1 1/2 year
  • captains orders
    yeah we're never realy going to know what's going on/been going on over there :c
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    one woman had an Iranian passport, but she was also an American citizen. She used her Iranian passport to get into Syria but when she was found out to also be American, Syria sent her back to Iran
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    I don't know what's happened to her since, though
  • ⚖ deducing
    hahaha the government says it didnt cut it. bullshit.
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    last I knew, she was still in Iran and America was working to get her back
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    so yeah. while watching a civil war unfold, keep in mind that both sides are fighting dirty. the government claims that armed rebels started the firefights during initial protests. rebels blame the government
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    but still, a lot of the rebels are people who simply wanted their voices heard back during the Arab Spring
  • effef
    this is such a nasty situation
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    and people who have gotten caught in the middle of everything
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    oh, where's that one blogger's thing I found once...
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    there was a Syrian who was writing updates as he could of his own personal experiences
  • captains orders
    there were some tunisian and iranian blogs awhile back too
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    I've been tracking the Syrian unrest and civil war since it started. soooo yeaaaah. I have feelings about this war '-'
  • captains orders
    i remember one blog got abruptly cut off after the blogger said he'd been attacked and beaten by police or something...... (unsure)
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    not surprising. but the government has been taking the fight to residential areas
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    not only that, but those people who are at the border towns near Turkey can't get to Turkey and the government has done things like surround the towns
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    massacres have been reported in a number of cities. men, women, and children.
  • captains orders
    we'll probably never get an official death count
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    I can go through my timeline and pull up all the reports I've linked if anyone wants or needs
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    especially if the government wins this one
  • Zefiris
    what I consider scary is how many massacres in syria were documented by foreign reporters. And thats with a situation where its very hard to be involved at all for a foreigner.
  • Zefiris
    stuff in the dark is likely way higher and worse. :S
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    yes. and this is also not getting into how the UN has sent in monitors twice and once they were almost hit by a missile
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    or how the rebels captured 14 Iranians claiming to be on a pilgrimage (Iran is an ally of the Syrian government)
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    or how the rebels claimed they forced a Russian plane to land and found it full of arsenal (Russia also supports the Syrian government)
  • ⚖ deducing
    thats the thing more than anything else the blackout is hitting the foreigners. no third party reporting at all.
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    part of the reason the UN has been deadlocked in doing ANYTHING regarding Syria is because China and Russia keep vetoing everything
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    and that's not getting into how Turkey is getting restless and has had two of their planes shot down by Syria
  • effef
    turkey is itching to do something, but they can't because they already have a thing with the kurds going on
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    and of course, Syrians are fleeing to Jordan and Lebanon as well.
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    yes, Turkey thinks if they do anything, the Kurds will take advantage and start something as well...
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    but because Syrians are fleeing by the thousands to Jordan and Lebanon, that's putting Palestinians in a restless state which is also putting Israelis in a restless state
  • goth xena
    well maybe turkey should stop treating the kurds like they do and that fear will be diminished (gpokerface)
  • goth xena
    /deadeye stare at all this
  • effef
    well yeah
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    if that gives you any idea of what a powder keg this is, considering how Israel's now shooting at Gaza
  • effef
    basically the middle east is a giant mess
  • muse ⚕
    wait, did the cease-fire end for Israel and Gaza?
  • CARCOSA
    yeah it just started from worst to terrible the moment turkey went against syria
  • CARCOSA
    as turkey was one of syria's allies, if i recall right
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    hootlord: uh, no. this was recently? idk. I know I read that Israel shot up a residential area...
  • effef
    cease fire is sort of relative at this point anyway
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    devimelete: yes, Turkey actually had a good thing going with Syria but then its government started killing its citizens
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    and Turkey went, "... well fuck that man."
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    especially since Syrians are primarily fleeing to Turkey because most of the heavy fighting is in the northwest
  • ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
    so Turkey's getting a lot of the brunt of it
  • CARCOSA
    last i heard the ceasefire is still in effect
  • effef
    a "cease fire" between israel and the palestinians at this point is basically just them saying ok we will stop shooting but both of us are going to have guns at each others head with out finger on the trigger"
  • CARCOSA
    but with the protests in Egypt going on, it might change
  • Zefiris
    Extremely. We (Germany) might actually have soldiers in turkey soon due to this, since some aid was requested - that says a lot. Turkey in particular isn't exactly famous for asking for help lightly.
  • Zefiris
    The situation really is a mess. And now this blackout is just spelling possible endgame attempt by Assad et company :S Wish the people there the best, I really do.
  • Zefiris
    maybe it's just a bad accident. it could happen. Somehow >_<
  • ⚖ deducing
    bad accident or rebel action would see more spotty outages I think. This is full scale metaphorical plug was pulled.
  • Zefiris
    Yeah, you're right. All but sattelite phones cut really can't be an accident, I was just being hopeful x.x
  • Zeloser ☼
    yeah I've never heard of an accident knocking out an entire country's internet before
  • thanks satan
    oh god, that's...worrying. syria, hang in there.
  • Dori-mingu
    My dad ancestry is from Syria. Man, if they got ahold of that during that whole National Anthem thing....
  • nadadith
    Oh God that is so terrifying.
  • Dori-mingu
    Rachel Maddow just had something about this on her show. Apparently the US had already supplied the country with communication kits so they can circumvent if the government shut it off on them like this.
  • Orpheus!
    ...oh holy hamsterball the middle east is exploding

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