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  • Eric Odom says
    I give the new Karma ALGO a fail. Friend request being rejected? So I'm not supposed to network and find new friends?
  • Eric Odom says
    No it isn't. Social networking is based on finding people with similar interest and connecting with them
  • Eric Odom says
    why would I be punished for trying to do that, but occasionally running in to someone who didn't want to connect up?
  • sentientlee thinks
    it's a GREAT feature. It's getting rid of all those stupid people that request to be friends but really aren't.
  • sentientlee thinks
    No more stupid MySpace and Twitter people with thousands of *not* real friends
  • Eric Odom says
    how do you know, sentientlee ? I accept most, if not all of those who request my friendship. Maybe it will work out to be a good connect
  • DaisyOlsen
    I think it's there to prevent over friending. I'm am ok with that one.
  • vangogh says
    I agree. I think the concept of losing karma is ok, but rejected friend requests is not the way to go
  • kiari is
    curious at who's going to judge "quality" plurking.
  • Eric Odom says
    so, in essence, if I don't want someone to climb the karma rank, I simply reject their friend request? Couldn't that be used to stay on top?
  • sentientlee says
    True, but it these people carry on good convos, then there is no reason to get rejected because of the "friendship" you've built
  • Eric Odom says
    yes, there is. There are some developers here at Plurk who specify that they will not add anyone they don't know personally
  • sentientlee says
    well how many times are you going to reject them?
  • Eric Odom says
    how do I know someone else doesn't use the same rule, but hasn't told me about it?
  • sentientlee thinks
    that maybe Plurk Inc. uses the negative Karma as an incentive to build a relationship with a person then ask to be friends.
  • sentientlee says
    although when I started in Plurk i did randomly friend people... (s_annoyed) lol
  • Eric Odom says
    KDFrawg, theGypsy, and several other people have become people I converse with outside of Plurk because of "random friend requests"
  • vangogh says
    I don't think friend rejects are going to be manipulated to such a hight degree. The problem is it discourages making new friends
  • sentientlee
    I'm guessing that if you're a *fan* of someone, then they don't see your updates, but you see theirs... correct?
  • sentientlee
    ok, if you respond to other peoples updates and u start to build up a repertoire w/them, then wouldn't they want u as a friend? = no -Karma?
  • Eric Odom asks
    what are the pro's and con's of this? -Friend request rejections -Getting unfollowed by friends -Spamming other users with too many plurks
  • ThatDude thinks
    it helps to make bring the focus to the community instead of trying to make karma as high as can be.
  • Eric Odom says
    Can we not have both?
  • ThatDude says
    you can have both but people should be so concerned about their karma. If you're building relationships, karma will fall into place.
  • ThatDude says
    sorry, "people shouldn't be so concerned"
  • sentientlee says
    Plus the definition of the word Karma is exactly what they are implementing. See here under Law of Karma: tinyurl.com/7l2sj
  • Eric Odom says
    yeah, I get that about karma. So then, how does someone refusing your friendship give you negative karma (real karma speaking...)
  • Eric Odom says
    or people unfollowing you?
  • Eric Odom says
    just playing devils advocate
  • ThatDude says
    people unfollowing you could mean you're doing something wrong (spamming) or they don't like you.
  • sentientlee says
    Refuse friendship = not real friend or they not like you, unfollow = friendship went bad.
  • rob-rific™ thinks
    that too many plurks lowering karma is an interesting idea
  • ThatDude says
    If that person doesn't like you (has nothing in common) your karma should balance out again.
  • Eric Odom says
    "unfollow = friendship went bad." this isn't true. I've unfollowed several people because A) They were not plurking in english sometimes
  • Eric Odom says
    and B-) I have a crowded timeline
  • Eric Odom says
    that was supposed to be a "B"
  • Eric Odom says
    my point is that you're generalizing
  • sentientlee says
    yeah I am, but I think I see the point that Plurk Inc. is trying to make with the Karma system.
  • Eric Odom says
    I see their point too, not arguing the point they make, just trying to weigh the value of it
  • sentientlee says
    As far as crowded timeline I see your point but do you really have 2 follow all those people? Even the not always English ones? *Rhetorical*
  • Eric Odom says
    no, I don't... which is why I unfollowed them Bummer for them that this will now hurt their karma. See what I mean?
  • ThatDude asks
    do you unfriend or stop following plurks?
  • Eric Odom says
    not sure about everyone else, but I just unfollow
  • sentientlee says
    yeah I do, but I think that in the long run the Karma System is good for the health of Plurk.
  • jsalvachua says
    Dont want people massively connect to others. This helps the scallability of software, but, on the long run will be bad lossing lot of info.
  • sentientlee asks
    bad lossing lot of info. ???
  • jsalvachua says
    means wont get the )
  • ThatDude says
    I wonder why you would unfollow plurks by someone instead of removing them as a friend.
  • jsalvachua says
    means loosing the weak links plurks, usally with info and ideas different from closer friends
  • Eric Odom says
    vrsandersjr because I still consider them Plurk friends and want quick access to their profiles for private plurking
  • sentientlee says
    p.s. is there an easier way to reply to someone using @? Instead of: @ -> copy & paste name -> type message -> Enter
  • sentientlee says
    @.: Plurkable.com :. couldn't you still do that if you were their fan? Oh, do you kinda mean like a web Bookmark?
  • Eric Odom says
    yeah, very much like a web bookmark... only using my friends list.
  • disneyr says
    just because I ask for friendship and get rejected, should my karma go down? What is this a dating site?
  • sentientlee says
    I see. Sorry, to be annoying (I know I am), but then couldn't you then just bookmark their profiles? Or why would you not want to do that?
  • ThatDude thinks
    if you want to private message someone you'd have to be their friend.
  • disneyr says
    this is supposed to be a "friendly plurkable world" not a singles bar. If karma goes down for being rejected why not just stay in real life?
  • sentientlee says
    lol disneyr , but why did you get rejected? Are you really their friend?
  • disneyr says
    heck at one point I had 41 friends and overnight because of some glitch (i think) I only had 11 friends. No karma lost then though.
  • ThatDude says
    disneyr I think it's about building community. If you're participating in the community a rejection is not going to matter in the long run.
  • disneyr says
    I try to be a real friend but I am merely human after all. ;-)
  • sentientlee says
    vrsandersjr I think you're right about the Private Message and I agree about the community statement.
  • disneyr says
    I agree but it is also about building a virtual community. Shouldn't the virtual community be a little more forgiving than the real one?
  • ThatDude says
    just like the "real world" if people don't want to be your friend, screw them. (s_angry)
  • sentientlee says
    I just wanna pause here and say that I've NEVER had such an in-depth convo like this on Twitter. NEVER. ... Was I using Twitter wrong? lol
  • disneyr says
    which is why I think we all hang out here.
  • disneyr says
    at least more than at twitter.
  • ThatDude says
    sentientlee I was going to say the same thing. This really isn't possible on Twitter because you can't have a complete stream like this.
  • ThatDude says
    also on Twitter if I were follow one person and not the other I would miss a chunk of the convo.
  • sentientlee thinks
    the thing to find out is how much will Negative actions hurt our Karma? We could be talking for no reason if it takes .05 or something.
  • irfster thinks
    karma = having good conversations around relevant ideas with friends
  • irfster thinks
    karma should increase if you contribute positively to the community
  • irfster thinks
    karma shouldn't decline if you try to find others who might be interested in joining your community
  • irfster thinks
    karma should decline if the ratio of your plurks to responses to your plurks is higher than average

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