| MackCollier | wants | everyone to welcome adelemaclear to Plurk! She wants to know what she's missing? |
Jun 15, 2008 -
03:42AM
| MackCollier | wants | everyone to welcome adelemaclear to Plurk! She wants to know what she's missing? |
| Beth Harte | says | hola!  |
| DebInAustin | says | welcome adelemaclear! |
| giggey | says | you're missing dancing bananas!  |
| onepinktee | welcome to the party! |
| adelemcalear | Hey Mack - this is my THIRD attempt...I'll tell you what bugs me and you tell me if there's a work around...fair? |
| Connie | ADELE! |
| MackCollier | says | adelemcalear shoot! And everyone hates Plurk at first  What's your beef? |
| jenniferC | waves  |
| adelemcalear | Right: first, I'm used to @ replies tab to check when I've been away. What do I do with "356 responses" View? |
| Connie | You'll wind up marking all as read. I cut down on that by following far fewer ppl here and using the Mute button. |
| Connie | Also, switch your timeline to Only My Plurks ... that way you can check responses to your plurks. Won't catch responses to responses ... |
| MackCollier | says | adelemcalear that's a problem, you can't easily search to see who has replied to you in threads, yet. |
| MackCollier | says | connie is right on switching views, that works for plurks that you started |
| Beth Harte | says | "Won't catch responses to responses" is on my list for the A-Team |
| Beth Harte | says | Adelemcalear, the A-Team has been very responsive to implmenting requests for changes |
| adelemcalear | connie Hi! OK...I'm such a newb...like a toddler on shakey legs...or maybe it's the wine. |
| Connie | adelemcalear You are so perfect for these Plurk convos. You'll love it when you get the hang of it. Doesn't replace Twitter. Just different |
| MackCollier | says | adelemcalear just hang in there and lean on us if you need to |
| adelemcalear | OK - but if I switch to only my plurks, would I be able to see this convo (because I didn't start it)? |
| MackCollier | says | and notice that this thread is getting better than a reply a minute. |
| MackCollier | says | no I don't think you would. Try it and see |
| DebInAustin | says | no, you'd have to start it. |
| adelemcalear | I ABSOLUTELY think there are very good things here...but, like any new thing, there is a learning curve. |
| adelemcalear | And with limited time availabilty, it comes down to "do I REALLY want to move in over here" |
| adelemcalear | So, I would only be able to follow my own conversation starter with Only My Plurks. |
| MackCollier | says | see I dont think you have to give up Twitter to use Plurk, I still use both, and like tonight, at the same time |
| adelemcalear | better than nothing, I guess. |
| Connie | They're making improvements rapidly here. New features coming pretty fast. |
| adelemcalear | Q#2: Can someone please explain to me the diff btwn Friends and Fans. (I tried and tried back on launch day, but didn't find the answer.) |
| adelemcalear | connie - that's really good to hear that they are responsive |
| MackCollier | says | yes adelemcalear, but notice down at the bottom right corner of this plurk where it says 'plurk page'? that gives this convo its own page |
| MackCollier | says | friends are people following you that you follow back, fans are people that follow you, that you dont follow back |
| Connie | Fan is someone who follows you but you don't follow back. |
| adelemcalear | MackCollier I don't believe I have to give up one for the other. It's more that I'm not sure how invested I want to be. |
| DebInAustin | says | adelemacalear everyone is great about teaching one another here. Thanks to that I learned rather quickly. |
| Connie | I limit the noise by only adding as friends ppl I know from Twitter or who have engaged me in conversation here. |
| MackCollier | says | problem with timeline format is that it can get crowded very quickly, may have to be more selective with following ppl here |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier I'm already on that plurk page...caught that a while back. Very cool. And makes it much easier to follow. |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier connie So then, when I get a "so and so has added you on Plurk" notice, to keep the noise down, what do I select? |
| Connie | Some ppl like the mobile timeline better -- more twiiter-like. I've gotten used to the scrolling one. |
| Tim Jackson | says | HOWDY! |
| adelemcalear | connie tell me about the mute button please. How does it work? |
| Connie | TimJackson, meet adelemcalear. Cool Canadian! |
| Connie | Look at top of this message, where Mack started the thread. At the bottom right it says mute. If you click this will not reappear |
| Connie | in timeline even if there are additional responses. |
| Connie | That's a new feature they added this week in response to requests. |
| MackCollier | says | adelemcalear oh put a @ in front of someone's name like on twitter to link to them |
| MackCollier | says | adelemcalear like I have muted some convos from days ago that still get some replies |
| Tim Jackson | says | connie- thanks for the intro to adelemaclear. Hoping to be in Montreal in August for tradeshow. I LOVE that city. Welcome to Plurk! |
| Beth Harte | says | adelemcalear if you look at your alerts you can see who has asked to follow you (you can accept or make them a fan) |
| Beth Harte | says | you will also see under the alerts who is waiting to accept your friend adds (they have to accept first). K |
| MackCollier | says | btw 50 replies in 27 mins....just sayin'... |
| Beth Harte | says | adelemcalear you can also click on the link by their name to look at their profile before accepting. |
| giggey | wishes | there was an option to see time stamps on responses |
| Beth Harte | says | add it to the list! Just send the requests to the "Contact Us." That's how the mute button got added. |
| giggey | has | sent the suggestion |
| adelemcalear | connie tell me about the mute button please. How does it work? |
| Beth Harte | says | see up at the right hand corner of this plurk, it says mute. Just click on it and you won't see this plurk any more. |
| Connie | adelemcalear - scroll back up - already wrote it |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier OK, despite the fact that I broke Plurk briefly, I absolutely see the value of a threaded convo! |
| Beth Harte | says | giggey, that's great. Let's check to see if it gets added. |
| Tim Jackson | says | @ MackCollier... are you sending birds to carry whales to Plurk now? Nothing is technically wrong. |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson  |
| adelemcalear | TimJackson and EVERYONE else here in this conversation who are meeting me for the first time, hello, and thanks for the kind welcome |
| adelemcalear | Q#3 this (here) page convo does not auto-refresh, nor does it if you have the plurk open in the timeline. Is this correct? |
| Tim Jackson | says | I've been following you on Twitter ... when it works, that is. But welcome to Plurkistan. The natives are weird (mackcollier), but good. |
| adelemcalear | Q#4 How do you best follow more than one convo? This is taking all of my attention. (In page view.) Tips? |
| MackCollier | says | adelemaclear it wont auto-refresh if you move it to plurk page, but WILL auto-refresh on timeline |
| Beth Harte | says | exactly. and look for the red numbers, this means there's a new plurk. |
| adelemcalear | I feel compelled to keep trying Plurk because they are Canadian (as am I). And because MackCollier & connie are evangelizing. |
| Connie | I never read on the plurk page. That's as klunky as Twitter web. Always read from timeline. |
| Beth Harte | says | advice, follow only the conversations you want to and forget the rest. |
| giggey | says | Re: Q3 - I've seen a convo refresh when I have it open. Just saw Mack's and Beth's response come up as I typed |
| Beth Harte | says | okay, now me...what's the Plurk page? |
| Beth Harte | says | good catch giggey! |
| MackCollier | says | connie if there's a convo that's good and I need to leave, I will move it to plurk page and refresh later when i get back |
| giggey | seconds the question....what's the plurk page? |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier It wasn't auto-refreshing when I had the individual plurk window open. The "6" did not advance to "15" with it open. |
| Connie | Plurk Page is the permalink for convo. Look bottom right of the open window in the time line. says plurk page. |
| giggey | oh yeah, have never used that |
| Connie | Mack, the number may not advance, but new messages pop up while I'm reading in an open message window |
| Beth Harte | says | right! I know that. I don't like that view. Might as well be on the timeline...for me anyway. |
| MackCollier | says | adele I am reading it now open on the timeline, dont have it on its own page, and 4 new replies have popped up since i opened it |
| MackCollier | says | connie it auto-refreshes on plurk page as well? |
| Connie | The timeline took a while for me to get used to, but now that I have, I like it. |
| MackCollier | says | yeah the timeline totally throws everyone at first, but now i almost prefer it to twitter |
| Connie | MackCollier Not sure about auto-refresh on plurk page; I almost never use that view. |
| MackCollier | says | ok it doesn't auto-refresh for me on plurk page, but does in timeline view |
| adelemcalear | What bugs me about the timeline is that it's moving in the WRONG direction. To me, it should move from L to R, like reading. |
| Connie | Most ppl have that complaint. Think of it like a blog -- most recent on top, which is to the left, which is where your eye naturally goes. |
| adelemcalear | bethharte (catching up, sorry) Yes, I'm familiar with how to add people. Just not what differentiates friend from fan. |
| adelemcalear | OK...so. #1 friend less people, to cut down on the noise, right? |
| Connie | yes |
| Connie | And mute conversations you're not interested in. |
| adelemcalear | #2 Use the "Only My Plurks" to just see the convos that I've started. |
| adelemcalear | #3 Mute to kill off convos |
| MackCollier | says | adele I would start off friending the people you routinely talk to on Twitter, & see how it goes, kinda watch your timeline & c how crowded |
| adelemcalear | ACK! How do I get back to the timeline from the Plurk page? (Ugh...did I mention how impatient I can be when learning new things?) |
| Connie | I only add ppl I know on Twitter & ppl who have engaged me in conversation here, like TimJackson. Didn't even follow him on Twitter. |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier something tells me I'm going to have to un-friend a heck of a load of people...I was accepting everyone! |
| MackCollier | says | Bingo! 100 replies in an hour! |
| adelemcalear | Q#5 Oh! When it launched, there was no BLOCK function. Is there one now? |
| Connie | thinks | Mack is right. I have switched some ppl from friends to fans because they plurked so much. |
| MackCollier | says | adele if you click 'mark all as read', it 'resets' the timeline |
| MackCollier | says | i dont think theres a block function, but they did add the mute function connie mentioned |
| Connie | I have my timeline set to private. So they have to request to see it. |
| Connie | However, if I'm responding to someone who is public, that's viewable to everyone. |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier Oh, Mack! You are all about the numbers tonight LOL! |
| Connie | Metrics, he haz them!  |
| adelemcalear | Action item #4, set timeline to private to tune down the creep factor. |
| adelemcalear | No, but seriously, how do I get back to the timeline? I clicked the HamDog and it just reloaded the Plurk Page... |
| Connie | You can always refresh by clicking on My Profile in the top left corner. |
| adelemcalear | they need a quick button for that. |
| MackCollier | says | I just like pointing out how quickly replies add up because the threaded convos really is huge, and I just click Mark all as read to reset |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier It's true. MUCH easier to have a coherent, deeper convo here. No argument on that...but... |
| DebInAustin | says | adelemcalear added you as a friend |
| adelemcalear | there are still some issues. Like coming out of plurk page back to the timeline...I almost lost this thread in the timeline |
| Connie | BTW, in addition to srolling, you can click anywhere on the timeline and drag it left or right |
| adelemcalear | connie so, if I'm only friending a few people, and I keep my timeline private, and I've activated Only My Plurks, how do you see new peeps? |
| MackCollier | says | adele you can see everyone that replies to a thread, even if you aren't following them |
| adelemcalear | Q #6 So there is NO way to see if someone has @'d me? Really? |
| Connie | I pick them up from conversations like this. |
| Connie | Nope, no way to check replies. You can do private messages, just like DMs on Twitter, and there's a view for that. |
| DebInAustin | says | how do we do a private plurk? |
| Connie | short cut: mouse over bold name in convo thread; arrow pops up to right. click on arrow & you can private plurk. |
| DebInAustin | says | connie gracias! |
| Connie | Or, in the main text window below the timeline, just below your name it says Plurk privacy & options. You can choose private there. |
| DebInAustin | says | OK. I see that now. Thx again. |
| Connie | thinks | MackCollier and I need to teach Plurk 101 workshop.  |
| MackCollier | says | lol you laugh connie but i think some blog posts are in order |
| DebInAustin | says | oh that would be so cool. LIke an online forum or something. You should try it! |
| adelemcalear | Yes, well this convo will certainly be linked to in my post tomorrow |
| adelemcalear | Q#6 On the left/bottom of timeline "# new plurks Update" refers to...? |
| adelemcalear | (and this convo does not auto-refresh when the window is open) |
| Connie | This convo is auto-refreshing for me when window is open |
| Connie | # of new plurks - click on that and it will refresh timeline to show latest plurks |
| Connie | It also shows # of new responses, if any - when you click on that you will see only updated convos |
| adelemcalear | Q#7 is there a bookmarking or favourites feature? |
| Connie | That feature has been requested and I believe they're working on it. |
| adelemcalear | Q#8 Any sign of spammers yet? |
| MackCollier | says | not yet adele, there's only about 9,000 users supposedly |
| Connie | Mack, I think that's just the # in the US. Let me find that link ... |
| Connie | kot.ereality.org/plurk/location/usa |
| Connie | I'm #68 of those who have identified themselves as being from the USA |
| Connie | Wait a minute. I think you're right about total # of users -- according to that site, it's 9317. |
| StarrGazr | says | Lots of clicking around. |
| MackCollier | says | I changed my location to Alabama, USA and still havent been listed, oh well. |
| MackCollier | says | ok nevermind, NOW I am finally listed lol |
| adelemcalear | Hi starrgazr! I'm being schooled in my third attempt at Plurk. |
| adelemcalear | Q#9 Has an app appeared yet to tell you what # you were in the JOIN list? |
| Connie | There's a learning curve here, like there is with any service, but ppl are very helpful and it didn't take long to get the hang of it. |
| Connie | adelemcalear, have seen no app that gives chronological order of joining. Profile pages do have a Member Since date. |
| adelemcalear | connie I really appreciate your help, and Mack's and everyone else who's come into this convo tonight. |
| MackCollier | says | adelemaclear I don't think so, there's not many 3rd party apps yet, we are waiting for them, try this search www.twistermc.com/plurk/ |
| Connie | Plurk is supposed to be opening their API and I think a ew people are already working on apps. |
| adelemcalear | Q#10 is there a way to see the time a response was left? Or is the time stamp only applied to the first post? (for DMs too) |
| Connie | So far only timestamp is original plurk. |
| Connie | wonders if we have just written Adele's blog post for her ...  |
| adelemcalear | connie You KNOW that blank page was staring me down! Thanks! LOL |
| adelemcalear | You have all been so generous with your time and your information. Thank you! |
| adelemcalear | connie especially you and mackcollier...really, thank you |
| MackCollier | says | adelemaclear you know we love you to death and are happy to help, and hope we have! |
| Connie | Any time! |
| adelemcalear | mackcollier You've helped me tremendously. Thank you, honey |
| Connie | adelemcalear is the #8 plurker in Montreal: kot.ereality.org/plurk/location/montreal |
| adelemcalear | Oh, so the # is by when you joined? I thought it was for how active you were (thus the "Top Users" title) |
| Connie | The number I just cited is by top users - based on karma points, evidently. |
| adelemcalear | Now karma points..that'll have to wait for another night |
| MackCollier | says | adelemaclear  |
| Tim Jackson | adelmcalear... don't worry about the Karma... it's bad for your brains. |
| sdohrn | says | thanks for a great thread. read it the next morning (ie now) and learned a lot |
| seerysm | is | adding one - anyone mentioned the ability to edit Plurks? I <3 that functionality. |
| emsgeiss | says | Hi adelemaclear. Thanks MacCollier and connie! You *should* teach Plurk-101! Great thread/convo. |
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