MackCollier wants Jun 15, 2008 03:42AM everyone to welcome adelemaclear to Plurk! She wants to know what she's missing?
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:45AM Hey Mack - this is my THIRD attempt...I'll tell you what bugs me and you tell me if there's a work around...fair?
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 03:46AM adelemcalear shoot! And everyone hates Plurk at first What's your beef?
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:47AM Right: first, I'm used to @ replies tab to check when I've been away. What do I do with "356 responses" View?
Connie Jun 15, 2008 03:47AM You'll wind up marking all as read. I cut down on that by following far fewer ppl here and using the Mute button.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 03:48AM Also, switch your timeline to Only My Plurks ... that way you can check responses to your plurks. Won't catch responses to responses ...
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 03:49AM adelemcalear that's a problem, you can't easily search to see who has replied to you in threads, yet.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 03:49AM connie is right on switching views, that works for plurks that you started
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 03:51AM "Won't catch responses to responses" is on my list for the A-Team
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 03:52AM Adelemcalear, the A-Team has been very responsive to implmenting requests for changes
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:53AM connie Hi! OK...I'm such a newb...like a toddler on shakey legs...or maybe it's the wine.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 03:54AM adelemcalear You are so perfect for these Plurk convos. You'll love it when you get the hang of it. Doesn't replace Twitter. Just different
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:54AM OK - but if I switch to only my plurks, would I be able to see this convo (because I didn't start it)?
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 03:55AM and notice that this thread is getting better than a reply a minute.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:57AM I ABSOLUTELY think there are very good things here...but, like any new thing, there is a learning curve.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:57AM And with limited time availabilty, it comes down to "do I REALLY want to move in over here"
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:58AM So, I would only be able to follow my own conversation starter with Only My Plurks.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 03:58AM see I dont think you have to give up Twitter to use Plurk, I still use both, and like tonight, at the same time
Connie Jun 15, 2008 03:59AM They're making improvements rapidly here. New features coming pretty fast.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 03:59AM Q#2: Can someone please explain to me the diff btwn Friends and Fans. (I tried and tried back on launch day, but didn't find the answer.)
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:00AM yes adelemcalear, but notice down at the bottom right corner of this plurk where it says 'plurk page'? that gives this convo its own page
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:00AM friends are people following you that you follow back, fans are people that follow you, that you dont follow back
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:01AM MackCollier I don't believe I have to give up one for the other. It's more that I'm not sure how invested I want to be.
DebInAustin says Jun 15, 2008 04:01AM adelemacalear everyone is great about teaching one another here. Thanks to that I learned rather quickly.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:01AM I limit the noise by only adding as friends ppl I know from Twitter or who have engaged me in conversation here.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:01AM problem with timeline format is that it can get crowded very quickly, may have to be more selective with following ppl here
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:01AM mackcollier I'm already on that plurk page...caught that a while back. Very cool. And makes it much easier to follow.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:03AM mackcollier connie So then, when I get a "so and so has added you on Plurk" notice, to keep the noise down, what do I select?
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:03AM Some ppl like the mobile timeline better -- more twiiter-like. I've gotten used to the scrolling one.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:05AM Look at top of this message, where Mack started the thread. At the bottom right it says mute. If you click this will not reappear
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:05AM adelemcalear oh put a @ in front of someone's name like on twitter to link to them
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:06AM adelemcalear like I have muted some convos from days ago that still get some replies
Tim Jackson says Jun 15, 2008 04:08AM connie- thanks for the intro to adelemaclear. Hoping to be in Montreal in August for tradeshow. I LOVE that city. Welcome to Plurk!
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:09AM adelemcalear if you look at your alerts you can see who has asked to follow you (you can accept or make them a fan)
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:10AM you will also see under the alerts who is waiting to accept your friend adds (they have to accept first). K
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:11AM adelemcalear you can also click on the link by their name to look at their profile before accepting.
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:13AM add it to the list! Just send the requests to the "Contact Us." That's how the mute button got added.
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:18AM see up at the right hand corner of this plurk, it says mute. Just click on it and you won't see this plurk any more.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:18AM mackcollier OK, despite the fact that I broke Plurk briefly, I absolutely see the value of a threaded convo!
Tim Jackson says Jun 15, 2008 04:20AM @ MackCollier... are you sending birds to carry whales to Plurk now? Nothing is technically wrong.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:22AM TimJackson and EVERYONE else here in this conversation who are meeting me for the first time, hello, and thanks for the kind welcome
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:23AM Q#3 this (here) page convo does not auto-refresh, nor does it if you have the plurk open in the timeline. Is this correct?
Tim Jackson says Jun 15, 2008 04:24AM I've been following you on Twitter ... when it works, that is. But welcome to Plurkistan. The natives are weird (mackcollier), but good.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:24AM Q#4 How do you best follow more than one convo? This is taking all of my attention. (In page view.) Tips?
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:25AM adelemaclear it wont auto-refresh if you move it to plurk page, but WILL auto-refresh on timeline
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:26AM exactly. and look for the red numbers, this means there's a new plurk.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:26AM I feel compelled to keep trying Plurk because they are Canadian (as am I). And because MackCollier & connie are evangelizing.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:26AM I never read on the plurk page. That's as klunky as Twitter web. Always read from timeline.
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:26AM advice, follow only the conversations you want to and forget the rest.
giggey says Jun 15, 2008 04:26AM Re: Q3 - I've seen a convo refresh when I have it open. Just saw Mack's and Beth's response come up as I typed
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:27AM connie if there's a convo that's good and I need to leave, I will move it to plurk page and refresh later when i get back
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:27AM mackcollier It wasn't auto-refreshing when I had the individual plurk window open. The "6" did not advance to "15" with it open.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:27AM Plurk Page is the permalink for convo. Look bottom right of the open window in the time line. says plurk page.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:28AM Mack, the number may not advance, but new messages pop up while I'm reading in an open message window
Beth Harte says Jun 15, 2008 04:28AM right! I know that. I don't like that view. Might as well be on the timeline...for me anyway.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:28AM adele I am reading it now open on the timeline, dont have it on its own page, and 4 new replies have popped up since i opened it
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:29AM The timeline took a while for me to get used to, but now that I have, I like it.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:30AM yeah the timeline totally throws everyone at first, but now i almost prefer it to twitter
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:31AM MackCollier Not sure about auto-refresh on plurk page; I almost never use that view.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:31AM ok it doesn't auto-refresh for me on plurk page, but does in timeline view
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:33AM What bugs me about the timeline is that it's moving in the WRONG direction. To me, it should move from L to R, like reading.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:35AM Most ppl have that complaint. Think of it like a blog -- most recent on top, which is to the left, which is where your eye naturally goes.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:36AM bethharte (catching up, sorry) Yes, I'm familiar with how to add people. Just not what differentiates friend from fan.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:38AM #2 Use the "Only My Plurks" to just see the convos that I've started.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:40AM adele I would start off friending the people you routinely talk to on Twitter, & see how it goes, kinda watch your timeline & c how crowded
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:41AM ACK! How do I get back to the timeline from the Plurk page? (Ugh...did I mention how impatient I can be when learning new things?)
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:42AM I only add ppl I know on Twitter & ppl who have engaged me in conversation here, like TimJackson. Didn't even follow him on Twitter.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:42AM mackcollier something tells me I'm going to have to un-friend a heck of a load of people...I was accepting everyone!
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:43AM Q#5 Oh! When it launched, there was no BLOCK function. Is there one now?
Connie thinks Jun 15, 2008 04:43AM Mack is right. I have switched some ppl from friends to fans because they plurked so much.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:43AM adele if you click 'mark all as read', it 'resets' the timeline
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:44AM i dont think theres a block function, but they did add the mute function connie mentioned
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:45AM However, if I'm responding to someone who is public, that's viewable to everyone.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:46AM Action item #4, set timeline to private to tune down the creep factor.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:48AM No, but seriously, how do I get back to the timeline? I clicked the HamDog and it just reloaded the Plurk Page...
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:51AM I just like pointing out how quickly replies add up because the threaded convos really is huge, and I just click Mark all as read to reset
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:53AM mackcollier It's true. MUCH easier to have a coherent, deeper convo here. No argument on that...but...
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:54AM there are still some issues. Like coming out of plurk page back to the timeline...I almost lost this thread in the timeline
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:56AM BTW, in addition to srolling, you can click anywhere on the timeline and drag it left or right
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 04:56AM connie so, if I'm only friending a few people, and I keep my timeline private, and I've activated Only My Plurks, how do you see new peeps?
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 04:57AM adele you can see everyone that replies to a thread, even if you aren't following them
Connie Jun 15, 2008 04:58AM Nope, no way to check replies. You can do private messages, just like DMs on Twitter, and there's a view for that.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:02AM short cut: mouse over bold name in convo thread; arrow pops up to right. click on arrow & you can private plurk.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:03AM Or, in the main text window below the timeline, just below your name it says Plurk privacy & options. You can choose private there.
DebInAustin says Jun 15, 2008 05:04AM oh that would be so cool. LIke an online forum or something. You should try it!
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:05AM Yes, well this convo will certainly be linked to in my post tomorrow
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:06AM Q#6 On the left/bottom of timeline "# new plurks Update" refers to...?
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:09AM # of new plurks - click on that and it will refresh timeline to show latest plurks
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:09AM It also shows # of new responses, if any - when you click on that you will see only updated convos
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:23AM Wait a minute. I think you're right about total # of users -- according to that site, it's 9317.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 05:26AM I changed my location to Alabama, USA and still havent been listed, oh well.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:29AM Q#9 Has an app appeared yet to tell you what # you were in the JOIN list?
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:30AM There's a learning curve here, like there is with any service, but ppl are very helpful and it didn't take long to get the hang of it.
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:31AM adelemcalear, have seen no app that gives chronological order of joining. Profile pages do have a Member Since date.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:31AM connie I really appreciate your help, and Mack's and everyone else who's come into this convo tonight.
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 05:31AM adelemaclear I don't think so, there's not many 3rd party apps yet, we are waiting for them, try this search www.twistermc.com/plurk/
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:31AM Plurk is supposed to be opening their API and I think a ew people are already working on apps.
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:32AM Q#10 is there a way to see the time a response was left? Or is the time stamp only applied to the first post? (for DMs too)
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:41AM You have all been so generous with your time and your information. Thank you!
MackCollier says Jun 15, 2008 05:42AM adelemaclear you know we love you to death and are happy to help, and hope we have!
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:50AM adelemcalear is the #8 plurker in Montreal: kot.ereality.org/plurk/location/montreal
adelemcalear Jun 15, 2008 05:54AM Oh, so the # is by when you joined? I thought it was for how active you were (thus the "Top Users" title)
Connie Jun 15, 2008 05:55AM The number I just cited is by top users - based on karma points, evidently.
Tim Jackson Jun 15, 2008 06:05AM adelmcalear... don't worry about the Karma... it's bad for your brains.
sdohrn says Jun 15, 2008 01:33PM thanks for a great thread. read it the next morning (ie now) and learned a lot
seerysm is Jun 15, 2008 02:17PM adding one - anyone mentioned the ability to edit Plurks? I <3 that functionality.
emsgeiss says Jun 15, 2008 06:37PM Hi adelemaclear. Thanks MacCollier and connie! You *should* teach Plurk-101! Great thread/convo.