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  • Blogie says
    they're overstepping their bounds already. what davao is doing is bordering on fascism (angry)
  • Blogie says
    1st they want to make it close to impossible for ppl to buy ciggies. now they want to limit activities inside smoking areas --
  • Blogie says
    as in, no more eating or drinking inside smoking areas X-(
  • maylabo
    good thing I stopped smoking and don't live in davao o_o
  • Blogie says
    making davao suitable for everyone is all well & good. but it is NOT their purview anymore to stop ppl fr smoking.
  • timoyness says
    I don't get the no smoking and drinking on smoking areas. i mean,wtf.
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    wtf?! where's the sense in that?
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    it's like saying if you're a smoker, bawal ka kumain o uminom ng tubig zzz (unsure)
  • timoyness says
    Waiter: Would you like to be seated in the smoking area,sir?
  • timoyness says
    Me: Yes please. Waiter: Ok, you can sit, but you can't order. lol.
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    if that ordinance is passed, it will spell the end of Torres Street
  • Your Daddy says
    Sombodys Skids are'nt getting greased thats why....
  • timoyness says
    so anyway, how does the ordinance stand with davao city's people? what's the approval rating of it like? and how'd it affect businesses?
  • Johnny Cash
    wow, that's bollocks. spoils the idea of me going on vacation there (annoyed)
  • boink says
    there are also non-smokers who would like to go out, enjoy themselves, and not inhale second-hand smoke.
  • timoyness says
    and there are smokers who would also like to go out, have a few drinks and eat WHILE smoking. too bad we can't do that on smoking areas.
  • Blogie says
    marocharim: there's been quite a few already who've told me that they don't wanna go to davao anymore due to the strict antismoking laws
  • Blogie says
    boink: kaya nga may smoking areas eh.
  • Your Daddy says
    Non-Smokers should stay home and stay healthy and let Smokers do the drinking and Cancer Stick inhalation. (LOL)
  • boink says
    the ordinance is not to keep people from smoking but to protect those who do not from ETS. ETS has been proven to cause cancer, etc...
  • Blogie says
    my point here is not about smoking. it's about the govt's behavior.
  • boink says
    blogie: the establishments were fined because they didn't follow guidelines set by the ordinance. It's awfully silly to put a sign...
  • Blogie says
    boink: again, that's why there are smoking areas.
  • Your Daddy says
    Davao is becoming a Big Brother State, heard of the new 600 million peso Traffic Camera Project? WTF? 600M for traffic cameras?
  • boink says
    that says "smoking area" right beside the the non-smoking area with out any barriers whatsoever
  • timoyness says
    I Think what we need is common courtesy, not ordinances. in manila, you can smoke pretty much anywhere 'appropriate' .
  • boink says
    timmyte: what's wrong with apprehending traffic violators?
  • Blogie says
    actually, i agree with the strict anti-smoking ordinance, to protect non-smokers. BUT, making it a law to stop ppl fr smoking, THAT's diff.
  • boink says
    timoyness: and who will teach this common courtesy you speak of?
  • Blogie says
    boink: the issue here is not about the estabs that violated the existing ordinance. what we're discussing here is the new ordinances that--
  • timoyness says
    boink: Oh believe me. that 600M will be coming out of our asses soon. traffic tickets galore.
  • Blogie says
    --are being proposed to make it very difficult for smokers to buy ciggies & to disallow eating & drinking inside smoking areas.
  • timoyness says
    boink: it's called common courtesy because it isn't taught, it's like common sense. :-D
  • boink says
    timoyness: right and the cameras will provide a more objectivity. No more he said, I said
  • Blogie says
    there is no argument that smoking is bad. but the govt has no right to play god.
  • Your Daddy says
    Like I said, Davao - Big Brother State.....
  • boink says
    timoyness: which like common sense is not so common
  • timoyness says
    smoking: Banned, Next door neighboor burning truck loads of garbage: Not banned.
  • Your Daddy says
    yup, maybe you can buy it at Mercury drugstore?
  • Blogie says
    boink: pls stick to the topic :-P
  • timoyness says
    So you're saying us smokers don't know where or when to smoke?:-) You don't see no smoking signs inside churches do you? do you see smokers..
  • timoyness says
    well yeah there's smokers inside, but not lighting up. lol
  • boink says
    timoyness:isn't it common courtesy for you not to blow smoke into other people's faces? I've had that done to me several times
  • Your Daddy says
    Maybe our Dear Mayor's Bueger's Disease has been acting up lately that why there has been a spike in Apprehensions?
  • Blogie says
    timoyness has a point there. he is like obama -- believes in the decency of man. :-))
  • Your Daddy says
    Buergers Disease....
  • boink says
    blogie: can you show me the news article that says they are proposing to make it more difficult to buy cigarettes & the thing about eating
  • timoyness says
    boink: Do something about it then. kick that guy's face in or something. :-)
  • boink says
    and drinking?
  • Blogie says
    boink: will try to find it
  • timoyness says
    boink: oh it's there, The fact that i can't enjoy a cig while having pizza or iced tea on piccobello made me stop going there.
  • Your Daddy says
    I read it in the news, Takatak and ambulant vendors are no longer allowed to sell cigarettes....
  • boink says
    timoyness: we're talking common courtesy not what needs to be done. My point is common courtesy cannot be relied upon since not many has it
  • boink says
    timmyte: what exactly was the reason behind the ordinance?
  • Your Daddy says
    to dissuage smoking?
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    aww... there has to be a better reason than that
  • boink says
    or to prevent sale to minors perhaps? Ironic though since another vice, alcohol, can easily be bought with showing ID
  • Blogie says
    boink: yan pa siguro. make it impossible for minors to buy cigarettes, and increase the minimum age. yan pa may sense!
  • timoyness says
    ugh. I hate how they ban cigarettes near schools. convenience stores aren't exactly convenient anymore. an ID requirement would've been OK.
  • boink says
    I agree to limiting access to minors but curtailing access to smokers might be a bit too much. They do have a valid concern as smoking...
  • Your Daddy says
    One ordinance they should pass is to make it legal for adults to smack 12 year old hoodlums caught smoking in the streets...
  • Your Daddy says
    that should cut down unerage smoking by a large percentage....
  • boink says
    ... does cause a lot of diseases and these diseases may affect health and productivity. But an ordinance that has the primary aim of...
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    hala, so hindi lang takatak boys ang bawal. basically the ordinance will ban pati supermarkets... pano un?
  • boink says
    ...restricting access is something I'm against. If they said that the primary aim was to stop minors from buying, maybe.
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    lol, di bale, di naman covered ang bakeries, bebenta kami ng yosi (LOL)
  • boink says
    timmyte: I'd agree to that ordinance (LOL)
  • timoyness says
    Wow I'm enjoying my marlboros even more as I'm reading this. lol
  • boink says
    timoyness: definitely, ID requirement should work fine
  • Your Daddy says
    yup, these Marlboro Lights never tasted as good....
  • timoyness says
    fake ID, lol. Hello Mr. McLuvin. from hawaii... name that movie! :-D
  • Blogie says
    i wish a non-smoker would take this up, this issue against what the local govt is doing... kung ako kasi, di credible coz i smoke :-(
  • boink says
    Man, this is starting to reek of the Prohibition Era (annoyed)
  • Blogie says
    the issue: gov't acting like a big brother; overstepping their role; being almost fascist (angry)
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    Blogs, why don't you take it up with Pete?
  • boink says
    oops (LOL) no parenthesis
  • Blogie says
    boink: mi punto exactamente!
  • Blogie says
    andrew_ds: pete is the proponent of the ordinance :-(
  • timoyness says
    a ban on alcohol would be cool, that'd be like, the return of SPEAK EASYs. heh
  • Your Daddy says
    Pete Lavina is a major proponent for the new ordinance.....
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    kaya nga talk about it with him
  • timoyness says
    and moonshine. lol
  • boink says
    (LOL)
  • boink says
    tuba?
  • timoyness gives
    a high five to blogie.
  • Your Daddy says
    back room burlesque! w00h00
  • timoyness says
    lol, i can imagine ex-drug dealers going up to you and with a shady tone going "you wanna get drunk?"
  • boink says
    wow, 104, good discussion blogie
  • timoyness says
    ala TOWELIE and all. lol
  • Blogie says
    pero sana nga may non-smoker akong kasama, para mas credible
  • Blogie says
    boink: whoa... hadn't realized it before u mentioned it... (woot)
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    blogs, i read it again. i think the ordinance covers selling yosi by the stick lang. these establishments can still sell by the pack.
  • boink says
    You should blog this and add a link to this plurk
  • boink says
    Where can I get a copy of this proposed ordinance? I'd like to read this some more
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    just to make it more difficult for kids to buy cigarettes because they're more affordable by the stick.
  • Blogie says
    andrew_ds: really? it says that there? but... why would such a distinction be made? (unsure)
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    Last paragraph: "If they do not readily see it and cannot afford to buy in packs, most will just have to stop," Laviña said.
  • Blogie says
    boink: i do plan to blog about it. hafta compose my thoughts first -- don't wanna sound like a bitch in heat
  • Blogie says
    andrew_ds: with all due respect to pete, i simply don't see how that's gonna be a deterrent. useless measure in that case, no?
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    so i guess by "retail" they mean by the stick, by "wholesale" by the pack. (LOL) wat da pack
  • timoyness says
    OH FFS. Like that's gonna stop us. lol. first I have to drive 5 minutes to get a pack instead of just walking to the convenience @ the kanot
  • timoyness says
    *kanto, now I can't smoke if i only have 2 pesos on my pocket. X-(
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    ewan ko kay pete.. anlabo.. haha
  • Migs
    makisingit sa usapan... ilan po ba ang population ng smokers sa davao? maybe our lawmakers are thinking na if its for the good of....
  • Migs
    the majority eh mas ok... which is... errr... right?
  • Blogie says
    buddymigs: again, the issue here is not about smoking itself. it's about how the gov't is behaving like a big brother.
  • boink says
    what the?!? That's a weak proposition at that. People won't quit just because of limited access.
  • boink says
    I have limited access to sex but I'm never quitting
  • Blogie says
    boink: we all seem to realize that; but the govt apparently doesn't :-&
  • Migs
    brader, nahihirapan ako eh.. ang haba! ahahahhahaha
  • timoyness says
    Welcome to the soviet davao.
  • boink says
    I guess someone ought to contact their local representative and change the wording
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    achully we can't discount that smoking is harmful and it is part of the issue. but if they ban it like it's drugs, iba na un.
  • Migs
    ay may plurk page pala siya.. :-P reading now...
  • Blogie says
    buddymigs: basta the issue here is about the dvo govt acting beyond proper governance.
  • Migs
    "proper governance"..
  • Blogie says
    like i said earlier, i acknowledge that smoking is bad for da health. but for govt to stop me fr smoking is akin to fascism.
  • timoyness says
    oh and btw, would it be legal to turn your whole place into a smoking area and have a NON-SMOKING designated area?...
  • boink says
    andrew_ds: I agree. I understand the need for the govt to look after its citizens. But if they start putting the cookies on top of the...
  • timoyness says
    that'd be better for bars and such.
  • boink says
    fridge because cookies are bad for you then that's too nanny-esque
  • Your Daddy says
    Our Dear Mayor is trying to "Save" his populace from Buerger;s Disease and Smoking related Illnesses, too bad we dont want to be saved...
  • Blogie says
    boink: nanny-esque is the milder end of the spectrum. the other end is called hitler-esque
  • LadyChic says
    grabe naman itong thread na ito... ang haba na. can't read all the posts at the top because parating may new post...
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    speaking of buergers.. why don't they ban greasy hamburgers coz heart disease is our country's #2 killer, ya know (LOL)
  • Blogie says
    boink: the ordinance says 20% of an estab may be used for smoking. ok na yun, we all acquiesced to that. but now they want to change it to-
  • Blogie says
    -say that it's illegal to eat & drink inside smoking areas!!
  • boink says
    andrew_ds: because you can't die of second-hand burger something
  • Your Daddy says
    theyre tryng to ban CHOLESTEROL TOO???
  • Blogie says
    reissa: hello reissa. i do hope you'll join the conversation
  • timoyness says
    blogie: that's just plain ridiculous. coffee and beer = never complete without yosi. :-D
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    aww.. it's the same thing like drugs. you can't die of second hand shabu.
  • timoyness says
    LFMAO @ Drufum
  • boink says
    or second-hand sex
  • Migs
    ayun nabasa ko na ang napakahabang thread... yun pala yun... Ang motto is: "if you can't beat them.. don't feed them"
  • Your Daddy says
    Nicotine + Caffeine = Legal Speedball
  • boink says
    wait... that came out wrong
  • timoyness says
    I don't mind secondhand sex. Leftovers FTW.
  • Blogie says
    timmyte: dats gonna be a good argument: will they try to ban cholesterol too??
  • boink says
    regarding non-serving of food and drinks, that's another proposal that needs to have rational reason behind it. Give me a real good reason..
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    make a new thread nahihilo na ako (headspin)
  • boink says
    ..and I'll consider it
  • timoyness says
    So how many people die each year of DUI, Drunken brawls,stabbings and shootings again? ;-)
  • Your Daddy says
    a lot, alcohol, IMHO is the more dangerous "drug" compared to nicotine....
  • boink says
    timoyness: Tumpak! No arrest of DUi here as far as I know
  • Blogie says
    i will blog about this soon. and yeah i'll link to this thread
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    ah which gives me an idea.. dapat may designated areas for smoking, drinking, and cholesterol.
  • timoyness says
    Nicotine AND drugs combined. :-)
  • boink says
    or maijuana... Not saying I've done it.
  • timoyness says
    boink: I think they should implement DUI arrests. that'd keep me from killing myself. but not smoking bans.
  • Blogie says
    there are SOOOO many other more pressing problems in davao (drainage anyone?) -- so why are our councilors wasting time on this one??
  • boink says
    I think I better take a break now. I've degenerated (LOL)
  • boink says
    blogie: small minds, small concerns? (annoyed)
  • Your Daddy says
    blogie Sinabi Mo! WTF is wrong with our local government anway?
  • timoyness says
    I'll take a DUI fine any time over a seatbelt fine. lol, what's the use of a seatbelt on 40kph limited streets.
  • timoyness says
    but yes, another topic for another time.
  • boink says
    timoyness: I'd agree about DUIs though. Problem is lagay ng lagay. Haven't yet fixed that problem.
  • Blogie says
    guys, thanks for your input. i can now blog about this issue better. it'll come out on www.angdabawenyo.com soon!
  • timoyness says
    pasingit about ticketing: kung mas convenient lang mag bayad ng traffic tickets (like a billing system) i think there'd be a lot less lagay
  • Blogie says
    timoyness: sana nga automated na lahat... *sigh* (but srsly, pls start a new plurk on that. hehehe)
  • Your Daddy says
    Damn, DUI. Vodka + weed + driving = almost crashed my car down a cliff. Good thing I just did a 4 wheel cartwheel....
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    don't link to this plurk mababasa nila mga hirit ko (unsure)
  • Your Daddy says
    NICOTINE WONT MAKE YOU DO THAT!
  • timoyness says
    Or cholesterol.
  • Blogie says
    andrew_ds: ok lang man... nothing incriminating there ;-)
  • Your Daddy says
    Oh shit, i think i just admitted I smoke weed and Drunk Drive.... :-o
  • Blogie says
    timmyte: oh.. i thought it was hypothetical (LOL)
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    we're all going to jail because of this damn plurk!
  • Your Daddy says
    DAMN! TEH DDS IZ GONNZ KILLZ ME!!!! NOOOOOOEEEEZZZZ!!!!!
  • Blogie says
    i'm scurrd
  • timoyness says
    we can always argue that 'nothing in the interwebs is real' . ;-)
  • Your Daddy says
    me too, Blogie, save me...
  • Blogie says
    well, ano man, do you guys want me to NOT link to this plurk?
  • Your Daddy says
    SEE! SEE! RIGHT THUR! WE ARE SCARED SHITLESS! WE ARE LIVING IN A FASCIST STATE!!!!
  • Blogie says
    if "don't link" wins out, i will respect that of course
  • timoyness says
    i don't mind.
  • Your Daddy says
    That happed 10 years ago, so thats cool. I think the Statutes of Limitation has passed on that "crime". (LOL)
  • timoyness says
    to wrap things up... No to : No eating and drinking on smoking areas ( unsa na, sacred?) No to: controlling of cigs like it's a drug
  • timoyness says
    Yes to: Smoking, Drugs, Cholesterol and sex.
  • Your Daddy says
    oh yes, SEX, SMOKES, STROKES and ALCOHOL for all!
  • Blogie says
    i-times two mo na lang ang sex
  • DΦRk KnIgHt says
    uhh.. sige na nga go ahead and link (unsure)
  • timoyness says
    haha ok. Yes to Sex, Smoking, Cholesterol and even more sex. there, fixed!
  • Blogie says
    ok so i will link to this plurk fr my blog post -- hopefully i'll be able to publish it by tonight or tomorrow
  • Blogie says
    again, thanks for the lively discussion!
  • Diyosa Blogger says
    nakakahilo! Anyway, I think people should be given the choice to sit, drink, and eat in a smoking area.
  • Diyosa Blogger says
    nobody is being forced naman to sit in the smoking area if they don't smoke. Diba?
  • Diyosa Blogger asks
    bakit ka uupo sa smoking area kung ayaw mo sa secondhand smoke. Make sure uy! OA yung ordinance.
  • Blogie says
    riajose: i couldn't have said it better!
  • boink says
    riajose: the problem with some of these smoking areas is what separates them from non-smoking areas: nothing.
  • Your Daddy says
    establishments should follow the Smoking Area guidelines in the ordinance...
  • Your Daddy says
    IMHO, the arrest of smokers using those Smoking areas is unlawful, they were after all using the "Designated" area thus "Following the Law"

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