| annhandley | asks | who do you consider to *really* know their stuff in Social Media? Who is a thought leader? |
Jun 14, 2008 -
12:03AM
| annhandley | asks | who do you consider to *really* know their stuff in Social Media? Who is a thought leader? |
| giggey | says | Sean O'Driscoll is my favorite, but I'm biased bc I got to see him in action |
| annhandley | says | OK - thanks. Anyone else? |
| Tim Jackson | mackCollier and connie both come to mind. |
| giggey | says | well, the usual suspects...astrout, mack, chris b., jeremiah |
| Beth Harte | says | valeria maltoni |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson |
| Beth Harte | says | charleneli |
| Tim Jackson | bethharte... did you find that grass again? |
| Beth Harte | asks | annhandley do you segregate by those who do it for a living? |
| Beth Harte | says | meaning those who are consultants & agencies vs. those who are implementing for the co. they work for. Just curious. |
| giggey | says | uh Maggie Fox too, she's good |
| annhandley | says | No -- just curious who we think are cutting edge in this space. No agenda -- just curious! |
| Beth Harte | says | Brian Halligan, HubSpot |
| Beth Harte | says | they are a company who truly generates engages and generates sales via SM. |
| annhandley | says | agreed.. they exhibited in boston at the MarketingProfs event. |
| annhandley | says | bethharte -- both, actually. |
| Beth Harte | says | I met Valeria Maltoni in 2000 and that was my first foray into networking. She has my utmost respect. |
| Beth Harte | says | okay. done. Sorry Ann. I overplurked your plurk. |
| annhandley | says | bethhate I have a girl crush on Valeria. Hung out with her in Boston Sunday and Monday -- AGREED. |
| Beth Harte | says | she was networking before it was cool!  |
| annhandley | says | Is it *possible* to overPlurk? |
| ScrapNancy | says | Gary Vaynerchuk is doing an amazing job of it for Wine Library. |
| annhandley | says | nancynally Yes! Thanks. |
| annhandley | says | as an aside... it's so cute when my 1 kid says to the other, "I will KILL you in your sleep!" They are such darlings.....<sigh!> |
| ScrapNancy | says | I knew I stopped at one for a reason.  |
| annhandley | says | lol...  |
| Tim Jackson | That's funny Ann... I say that to them all the time. |
| annhandley | says | What? |
| annhandley | says | (that's for you timjackson) |
| annhandley | says | to the kids -- "Don't make me come down there!" |
| Tim Jackson | That I will kill them in their sleep. Right after I read them a bedtime story- like Amittyville or Sybil. The classics. |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson will kill 'em in their sleep silly! He's such a good daddy! |
| Beth Harte | says |  |
| annhandley | says | timjackson You know, you are such a kind, caring Dad. Happy Father's Day to you, early. |
| Tim Jackson | Oh stop, you're gonna make me blush. |
| Beth Harte | says | he also gives 'em beer with their Cheerios! |
| Beth Harte | says | Happy Father's Day!  |
| annhandley | says | It's so *cute* when they burp! |
| Tim Jackson | I love it when they stagger around and fall down. It's so touching to see them copying me. You know? C'mon Ann, I know you're with me here. |
| annhandley | says | Tim : "Hey kids -- dig deep in the cooler for your old man, will ya?" |
| Beth Harte | says | back on topic: Paul Gillin? geoffliving? |
| Tim Jackson | Then their little hands turn blue and go numb... |
| Tim Jackson | family time. |
| annhandley | says | Of course I'm with you. How many times have I held your head for you, while you ralph over the toilet? Those moments stay with a girl.. |
| annhandley | says | Do you know Lena West? She was great at the MP event this week... |
| AdamDesAutels | says | I just jumped in at ralphing over the toilet... |
| Connie | Toby Bloomberg, Joe Thornley |
| annhandley | says | yes, it's awesome when he makes it. Otherwise... ewww. |
| Connie | Met Lena West at BlogHer Business - she was great |
| Tim Jackson | Jeez! Yes, Toby is awesome. |
| annhandley | says | check check check... all great folks. This is awesome. |
| Tim Jackson | Yes, Ann, I remember that time you punched your Parole Officer and the we stole his car. Then got really hammered after you got that tat. |
| AdamDesAutels | says | I have to agree and say Vaynerchuk |
| Tim Jackson | Memories. Memories. |
| Connie | I point to people like Toby and Joe because they "do" social media, not just blog about it. They take it outside of the echo chamber. |
| Beth Harte | was | thinking annhandley & timjackson were thought leaders.... |
| Beth Harte | says | but now... |
| Tim Jackson | I know Beth. I don't know what to do with her. |
| Beth Harte | thinks | "echo chamber" is the perfect description! |
| annhandley | says | good point, Connie. Gary, too. is using it. As is timjackson (when he's sober). |
| annhandley | says | bethharte  |
| Connie | Gary is really using it in innovative ways. |
| Connie | timjackson does "extreme" social media -- like the kind where you have to wear a helmet!  |
| Connie | Then there are a bunch of us who don't have books to our names but who are out there in the social media trenches with clients. |
| annhandley | says | connie What would you call innovative? (About Gary, I mean.) |
| Connie | Look at what Becky McCray has done with her Small Biz Survival blog and consulting. How to use social media in small towns for small biz. |
| Tim Jackson | connie I'm wearing a helmet *now*, but that's all. |
| annhandley | says | Did that sound challenging? Didn't mean to be. Just curious what you see. |
| Tim Jackson | And thanks all for even lumping me in this list. |
| Connie | No, not challenging at all. |
| Connie | Good discussion. |
| annhandley | says | connie Becky -- right! Perfect. |
| annhandley | says | I hear TimJackson is now fully protected when he SLEEPS. |
| Connie | I'm just pointing out that some people who really know their stuff are not that well known, like Becky. |
| annhandley | says | (Fully helmeted, I mean.) |
| Connie | WARNS TIM: no dancing bananas |
| Connie |  |
| Tim Jackson |  |
| annhandley | says | connie - I agree. I see Lena in that category, too, but maybe she's new to me but otherwise well-known. Not sure. |
| Connie | I had not heard of Lena before BlogHer Biz - but really loved her presentation there. So very practical. |
| annhandley | says | connie (rolling eyes...) WHY do you encourage him????) |
| Connie | I know, I know. Why do I even bother trying to make timjackson behave? |
| annhandley | says | Tim -- put the banana back it its peel, ok? |
| annhandley | says | IN its peel, I mean. |
| Connie | Two more names -- Anna Farmery (Engaging Brand) and Heather Gorringe -- together they are the Podcast Sisters. Do you know them? |
| annhandley | says | I met Anna in NY (Blogger Social). Don't know Heather. |
| Tim Jackson | Girls... it'll be ok. The meds should take hold soon. Besides, my therapist says I'm making HUGE strides at socializing. |
| Connie | Heather lives in a town of 63 people and has built her multi-million-$ business totally on social media. Terrific case study. |
| Connie | Wiggly Wigglers is the name of her organic gardening business. (Almost hate to say that in front of Tim.) She sells earth worms. |
| annhandley | says | will look her up.... |
| Beth Harte | asks | annhandley...are you writing a piece or organizing October? Just curious... |
| Connie | Can't think of Heather's site name, but here's The Podcast Sisters: www.thepodcastsisters.com/2008/06/show-049---soci.html |
| Tim Jackson | connie that is really cool. I really love stories like that. |
| Beth Harte | gives | her 2 cents...When I go to the next seminar, it would be great to hear/learn tactical implementations-not just strategy. I can read a book |
| Connie | Wish I had a link to Heather's full story. She spoke at BlogHer Biz and it was great. |
| Tim Jackson | Yes. Agreed. Oddly, that's what got me the invite to speak here at the AMA meeting a few months back. I was WAY flattered. |
| Beth Harte | says | that's why I am doing my blog...to share my tactical implementation. |
| Connie | Not as basic as what I'm teaching next week necessarily (www.eventbrite.com/event/118371051) which is for complete newbies, but no more theory. |
| Beth Harte | says | I have a "make it so" command...so I need to dive in. And I don't have staff or a budget. I am sure there are others like me. |
| Connie | plenty like you, Beth. |
| annhandley | says | thanks connie |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson...wish you could speak at the AMA here! I might actually attend a meeting! |
| Connie | One of the best Social Media Club meetings we did was a small group exercise. I made up 10 dotcom businesses, gave a 2-sentence summary |
| Connie | or biz strategy & each group had to create a social media plan, strategy & how to implement |
| annhandley | says | bethharte Just starting to think about October, not writing a piece, just curious who is considered a leader, who I might not know. |
| Tim Jackson | Thanks bethharte! |
| annhandley | says | i like the idea of actionable ideas.. case studies, etc. |
| Beth Harte | says | connie that is SO cool! I would have loved to been there. |
| Beth Harte | says | np timjackson. I wasn't just being flattering...in all seriousness... |
| Connie | BlogHer Biz was full of case studies -- one of the reasons I really enjoyed it. I think videos are online somehwere. Need to look that up. |
| Beth Harte | asks | connie is SMC only west coast? |
| annhandley | says | would love to see that! |
| annhandley | says | Are you guys going to BlogHer in SF in July? |
| annhandley | says | (kids calling).. back later |
| Connie | Not going to BlogHer in SF but will be leading a BlogHer Second Life panel in-world. |
| Beth Harte | says | connie! Look what I found...socialmediaclub.pbwiki.com/Philadelphia |
| Beth Harte | says | |
| MackCollier | says | connie, Annie claims she's here under her same anniemal name, but won't approve me to be a friend ;( |
| Beth Harte | says | well she should be my friend give we's Philly girls and all cause otherwise that just ain't right...ayight?! |
| MackCollier | says | Ok Handley great question which I missed. My list is Chris Brogan, Connie, Tim, Mario Sundar, David Armano, Jason Falls, and Ann Handley |
| Beth Harte | says | I sent anniemal a friend notice. I'll touch base with her offline to get involved with SMC. Thanks again conie. |
| Beth Harte | says | connie! |
| MackCollier | says | BTW in many ways how people use Twitter & Plurk is my barometer for if they REALLY get SM. Too many r on Twitter just 2 pimp, not b social |
| Beth Harte | says | hi Mack!!  |
| Connie | mackcollier good point - I base a lot of mine on personal interactions outside their blog -- like Twitter/Plurk online, or meeting at conf. |
| MackCollier | says | hi Beth! |
| Tim Jackson | So I'm losing points then for walking away from Twitter? Dang... just when I thought I was going places... |
| Beth Harte | shares | Macks opinion. That's why I call them smarty markety...it's bad personal promotion. |
| Beth Harte | says | they ask a question, you respond and then no conversation...it's odd to me. |
| Beth Harte | thinks | she'll tweet herself just to add to the competition! Kidding. |
| Connie | annhandley I think this is the BlogHer Biz link where you can find the videos. Look for Heather Gorringe. www.blogher.com/blogher-business-08-videos-sessions-and-interviews |
| Tim Jackson | bethharte, that would be HILARIOUS... have a one way discussion with just yourself- complete with the (AT)bethharte thing... oh man. |
| Beth Harte | says | thanks for sharing connie...I am going to check them out too. |
| Connie | I don't know if they video'd the panel w/ Lena West. She was just before my panel and we were in the upstairs area. |
| MackCollier | says | thanks connie will have to check out the videos next time I am on wifi! |
| Beth Harte | says | gonna do it timjackson! |
| Connie | MackCollier Did you get to meet Anna Farmery and Heather Gorringe at BloggerSocial? |
| Beth Harte | says | well...I am getting practice talking in the 3rd person here... |
| Tim Jackson | bethharte you have to let me know when you do... PLEASE?! |
| mrgraham | says | we all are |
| MackCollier | says | connie barely. Actually I met/said goodbye 2 Anna as I wz leavin Sat night & I didn't realize Heather was with her, I dont think I met her |
| MackCollier | says | I thought about doing that on Twitter, send tweets and act like you were sending a DM to someone |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson...hoping I am that crafty! |
| Connie | Here's the link to Heather's video, case study of Wiggly Wigglers: wsscreengrab.blip.tv/#819602 |
| Beth Harte | says | to pull it off.... |
| MackCollier | says | Like 'hey man, how does 2pm sound? I'll call you then', |
| MackCollier | says | or 'yeah but I heard he's only getting 50 visitors a day, claims he's getting 500!' |
| Connie | And here's a podcast I did w/ Heather and Anna about using social media for small business like fish & chips www.thepodcastsisters.com/2008/06/show-049---soci.html |
| MackCollier | says | 'yeah I hear you, there's none of this crybaby shit on plurk' |
| Beth Harte | says | mackcollier...now that's funny! |
| MackCollier | says | 'I know! I have no idea who she thinks she's impressing with that avatar!' |
| Beth Harte | says | timjackson, mackcollier and bethharte should form a trifecta to bring Twitter doooowwwnnn. |
| Beth Harte | says | |
| Connie | |
| Connie | y'all are cracking me up, as usual. |
| Beth Harte | thinks | annhandley will not like the direction this plurk has taken...let's include her. connie, you in? |
| Connie | I'm in. |
| Beth Harte | [practices] bethharte: wow! did you see bethharte's blog?! It's amazing work...truly original! No links to other bloggers!" |
| Connie | conniereece: who does conniereece think she is with that stupid pink hat and boa. so unprofessional no one takes her seriously. |
| Tim Jackson | DO IT! Oh man... it'll be hilarious. Like an interview though, all serious and shit. |
| Tim Jackson | Ask yourself really hard hitting questions. |
| Tim Jackson | Give really good answers. |
| Tim Jackson | Oh, it'd be freakin' awesome! |
| Beth Harte | says | "bethharte: what gives you the edge to implment social media?" "bethharte, because I am ballsy and smart. Isn't that enough?" |
| Beth Harte | says | |
| Beth Harte | says | okay, that wasn't really good, but perhaps funny... |
| Beth Harte | says | or maybe I can say "because if timjackson can do it, I can too..." |
| Tim Jackson | THERE you go! |
| Beth Harte | says | then as part of the evil plot...you'd respond with? |
| Tim Jackson | I heartily endorse the commentary contained in this interview- I give ie a BIG Bionic Thumbs Up! |
| annhandley | says | I seriously fear for all of you... |
| Connie | That's what you get for leaving us unattended.... |
| annhandley | says | I love how things get more and more outrageous! |
| Connie | But if you'll scroll back, I left some links for you pertaining to your original question ... I guess we did get a wee bit sidetracked. |
| annhandley | says | I read the whole thing... and really appreciate the links. Thanks, Connie. |
| Beth Harte | says | sorry...my fault Ann. |
| Connie | Just watched the Heather interview on video -- really funny and interesting. Enjoyed a long lunch w/ her & Anna before they went back to UK |
| Connie | Had no idea they were going to whip out recorder and microphone and do a Podcast Sisters episode right there in the restaurant. |
| Beth Harte | says | they had the equipment with them? That's wild. |
| Connie | Yes! You can get good recording equipment reasonably priced that is very portable. |
| emsgeiss | says | holy cow this conversation grew wings...to ans. the orig. Q (why am always behind?) AnnHandley, mackCollier, ChrisBrogan, Darren Rowse (sp?) |
| emsgeiss | says | ...and Jen Gniadecki |
| emsgeiss | says | to mack: after that comment, you're going to loose more Twitter followers (j/k ) |
| Beth Harte | says | hi emsgeiss! |
| Tim Jackson | AnnHandley- sorry about that mess on the rug. connie bet me I couldn't do it. Turns out , I can't. |
| emsgeiss | says | hi bethharte! |
| onepinktee | I'm loving this convo - pick up some new blogs to read! (just what I need ) |
| annhandley | says | WOW! Me, too.. this is a testament to a strength of Plurk. Great having this all in one scrollable spot... |
| Connie | 192 responses - what a conversation! Like real life too. You wander away from a topic then come back. |
| sdohrn | wants | to thank all for great leads. added several new feeds to my reader |
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