th13rteen "is it right that obama is using youtube?" ping.fm/D5bLi

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  November 16, 2008 at 02:54 patricksweeney says No. He should distribute it from his own site.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:00 ktoth04 says It's awesome
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:05 Amie I think it's awesome as well.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:12 th13rteen says @ patricksweeney: you're my man. you get it.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:12 th13rteen says kthoth4 & gillie: did you guys read the post? lol
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:15 patricksweeney says he needs to do it clear from the youtube "crap". He can't appear more partisan than he already does.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:16 th13rteen says i know, huh? is he trying to be some social media guru or something? keep it professional, obama.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:17 ktoth04 says No, I didn't read the article, I think its a good idea... I'll give it a read
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:18 patricksweeney says I think the idea is great, why Bush didnt do video just shows how out of touch he is.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:19 patricksweeney says I'd like to think the incoming president could afford the bandwidth of a decent content delivery network lol
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:23 th13rteen says i'm pretty sure there's a grand left from the campaign money. he could use that.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:23 safire says I don't think he should directly do it... he should do it from his site. Google/YouTube is a private company, the govt shouldn't use it...
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:23 th13rteen says plus if you can waste all that money in iraq. can't you spend a few hundred dollars for hosting? lol
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:23 patricksweeney says rofl
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:23 safire says ... like that.
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:24 patricksweeney says cachefly or bitgravity, obama. look it up!
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:24 safire says Campaigning on youtube is fine... he's prez, he really should continue being presidential and remain in govt stuff... lol
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:24 patricksweeney says psaffire: *nod*
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:27 safire says Oooh, 13, your site looks sooo clean. Me likes!
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  November 16, 2008 at 03:43 th13rteen says oh thanks psaffire. i'm still working on it.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:35 classicalgeek says Obama is to date still only a Senator and even then he is a private citizen and therefore free to use all the resources that any private
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:36 classicalgeek says citizen can use. He uses YouTube because it's popular and he knows people will watch things on YouTube they won't watch on a government site
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:36 classicalgeek says heck, I think people will watch ANYTHING if it's on YouTube.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:41 patricksweeney says classicalgeek: he's officially not a senator anymore.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:44 th13rteen says yeah he's "president-elect".
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:45 classicalgeek says no, he resigns tomorrow.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:45 classicalgeek says at this hour he's still a Senator.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:46 th13rteen says so he's both a senator and president-elect at the same time?
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:47 patricksweeney says oh im sorry, he HANDED IT in the other day, doesnt take effect until tomorrow
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:48 patricksweeney says regardless, i wouldnt classify anyone with Secret Service protection a private citizen.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:53 classicalgeek says well of course I'm just going by official classifications. i'm not smart enough to make up my own.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:56 safire says I hope he makes the video available for anyone to download and monetize. Because there was an ad when I just saw the vid.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:56 safire says Point is, Google is still a private company, he is president-elect... this is not gelling well... it was fine when he was campaigning.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:58 th13rteen says yeah i agree with psaffire.
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  November 16, 2008 at 05:58 th13rteen says he's helping a private company. unfair like i said.
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:25 classicalgeek says he's using a service, the same way we all use plurk, twitter, etc. Here's the thing: with the economy in the crisis it's in, should that
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:25 classicalgeek says money go to his image or to actually helping people?
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:26 safire says classicalgeek: we aren't presidents.
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:27 classicalgeek says neither is he, at the moment. in any case, he's entitled to use free services the same as anyone. i personally think it's a brilliant idea
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:28 classicalgeek says to use social networking as he has used twitter, linkedin, youtube, etc. this makes him much more accessible to the average person.
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:29 classicalgeek says if he were using official government sites for his videos we wouldn't be able to leave comments and discuss and rate them, would we?
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:29 safire says I think its a brilliant idea too, just not youtube, or any private company. Would you have liked if he used paypal during fundraising?
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:31 safire says I dont mind the videos being on youtube, I do mind that its being primarily linked to him.
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:32 th13rteen says @ classicalgeek: do you think that obama is going to check the comments, messages, etc?
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  November 16, 2008 at 06:33 th13rteen says @ classicalgeek: well you can't leave a comment anyway since its disabled.
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  November 16, 2008 at 17:51 classicalgeek says look, this is participatory democracy at its best. did you know that EVERY new bill is going to be posted in its entirety on the white house
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  November 16, 2008 at 17:51 classicalgeek says web site and left there open for comment and discussion for five days before Mr. Obama signs it?
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  November 16, 2008 at 17:52 classicalgeek says and no, Mr. Obama won't read every comment personally. however, one of his staffers will, and they'll take what in their judgment are the
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  November 16, 2008 at 17:53 classicalgeek says best comments and those ideas WILL percolate up to the president's office, if his work on the HLR is anything to judge him by.
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  November 16, 2008 at 17:59 patricksweeney says That's a really way to think. I do think Obama is making some terrific promises, and I like transparency in government.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:00 patricksweeney says However, he will be lucky if he can pull off 1% of what he wants to.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:00 patricksweeney says not thru any fault of his own, thats just how politics is.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:01 patricksweeney says Having all bills displayed on the White House site is great, but like I said, thats were it belongs, not on youtube.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:01 patricksweeney says Serving his videos is paramount to donating to him; its money he isn't spending.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:23 safire says I agree with patrick. He has a lot of supporters, if they want to download the vids from whitehouse.gov and place it on youtube, perfect.
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  November 16, 2008 at 18:24 safire says But for him to be responsible for the videos on youtube, not perfect.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:23 classicalgeek says well i disagree but then i'm probably older than all of you put together lol.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:35 th13rteen says @ classicalgeek: is it transparency? or is it just another method to sell? it might just be a distraction.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:36 th13rteen says so obama's going to let people comment on bills. okay did you ever read the comments on youtube? that should tell you what kind of people...
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:37 th13rteen says are online. there's more trolls and idiots than brainiacs. or at least the average joe.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:38 classicalgeek says true, which is why the President won't read them himself. but as people begin to get accustomed to the idea that they are responsible for
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:39 classicalgeek says government in many more ways than simply voting, we will see fundamental changes in the way both people and governments operate. it won't be
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:39 th13rteen says i guess the secret service will have to work overtime from now on. lol
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:39 th13rteen says btw, here's another article about this from my bud, allen stern: www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/11/obama_says_yes.html
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:40 classicalgeek says immediate and there will be plenty of trolls and such but the change is coming and has been for a number of years.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:40 th13rteen says well i like the idea of people commenting and discussing over bills and stuff. but they should do it on change.gov. not any private site.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:43 classicalgeek says i see he's disabled comments as well. the fact is, people are used to youtube, that is where they go, and this is part of Obama's method of
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:43 classicalgeek says operation, is to go where the people already are. that's why he had ground offices in all 50 states, that's how he got his message across
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:44 th13rteen says makes sense.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:44 classicalgeek says to the people, and the fact is that it's smart to continue to do what works. if he puts videos on whitehouse.gov he's just not going to get
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:45 classicalgeek says as many viewers as he will on youtube. because youtube is where people go to watch videos, just as you don't buy groceries from your
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:45 classicalgeek says auto mechanic.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:47 safire says Yeah, classicalgeek is right... youtube is where people would see the vids, it will still be there whether he chooses to directly use it...
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:48 safire says ... or not. Youtube is still a private company. And Obama is no longer a private individual... just saying, its partiality.
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:49 safire says Things like this have happened in history when the gov't favors a private company. Like the bell company and the railroads...
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  November 16, 2008 at 19:53 th13rteen says well this is both good and bad.
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  November 16, 2008 at 20:35 Arron says I thought it was just simple numbers. I've only gone to change.gov, like, twice this week. I go to YouTube about 10 times a day.
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  November 17, 2008 at 21:45 classicalgeek says yes, and his suits come from a private company, the white house limo comes from a private company, the food they eat at the white house
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  November 17, 2008 at 21:45 classicalgeek says comes from a private company, the telephone service they use is from a private company, the schoolbooks their girls will use comes from a
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  November 17, 2008 at 21:46 classicalgeek says private company. oh, wait, google is a public company, lol. so are most of the others.
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  November 18, 2008 at 02:50 safire says Its still an unfair advantage to the competitors of youtube. We apparently don't know the name of the limo or telephone company they use.
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  November 18, 2008 at 02:55 Arron says It's called capitalism, psaffire.
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  November 18, 2008 at 02:56 Arron says It's not like Obama using YouTube lends it any kind of extra credibility it didn't already have.
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  November 18, 2008 at 02:56 Arron says I'm more concerned that they'll take away his BlackBerry once he gets in the white house.
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  November 18, 2008 at 02:57 Arron says It's just... so wrong.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:18 safire says Actually, he is the president of united states, so yes, it does lend youtube extra credibility. This favoritism has nothing to do with...
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:19 safire says ...capitalism. It does lead to monopoly, which is a capitalistic effect.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:19 Arron says Er, YouTube is /already/ a monopoly.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:19 Arron says You know, what with it being owned by another monopoly.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:20 Arron says Meaning, its impossible to make the situation worse -- even /if/ Obama uses it, because YouTube is /already/ mainstream stuff.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:30 safire says *sighs* I haven't taken enough history to debate this. Tech is in baby years, that's why we (i.e *you*) can't see anything wrong with this.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:30 safire says Standard Oil (Rockefeller), JP Morgan and govt... do some readings on those.
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  November 18, 2008 at 03:31 safire says If he is taking an effort for it to be on youtube, he should also take an effort for it to be on vimeo, and other nameless sites.
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  November 18, 2008 at 04:44 Arron says Aww, you're so mean to me.
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  November 18, 2008 at 05:00 safire you'll be fine.
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  November 18, 2008 at 06:56 classicalgeek has studied **plenty** of history, including economic history, and in 20 years it will be like he never picked any one channel at all. Fads,
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  November 18, 2008 at 06:56 classicalgeek thinks companies, and Presidents come and go every few years and her guess is that in 3 years YouTube will be irrelevant.
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  November 18, 2008 at 06:57 classicalgeek says oh and btw Cadillac makes the Presidential limo, I did know that