| patricksweeney | says | No. He should distribute it from his own site. |
| Amie | I think it's awesome as well. |
| th13rteen | says | @ patricksweeney: you're my man. you get it. |
| patricksweeney | says | he needs to do it clear from the youtube "crap". He can't appear more partisan than he already does. |
| th13rteen | says | i know, huh? is he trying to be some social media guru or something? keep it professional, obama. |
| patricksweeney | says | I think the idea is great, why Bush didnt do video just shows how out of touch he is. |
| patricksweeney | says | I'd like to think the incoming president could afford the bandwidth of a decent content delivery network lol |
| th13rteen | says | i'm pretty sure there's a grand left from the campaign money. he could use that. |
| psaffire | says | I don't think he should directly do it... he should do it from his site. Google/YouTube is a private company, the govt shouldn't use it... |
| th13rteen | says | plus if you can waste all that money in iraq. can't you spend a few hundred dollars for hosting? lol |
| patricksweeney | says | rofl |
| psaffire | says | ... like that. |
| patricksweeney | says | cachefly or bitgravity, obama. look it up!  |
| psaffire | says | Campaigning on youtube is fine... he's prez, he really should continue being presidential and remain in govt stuff... lol |
| patricksweeney | says | psaffire: *nod* |
| psaffire | says | Oooh, 13, your site looks sooo clean. Me likes! |
| classicalgeek | says | Obama is to date still only a Senator and even then he is a private citizen and therefore free to use all the resources that any private |
| classicalgeek | says | citizen can use. He uses YouTube because it's popular and he knows people will watch things on YouTube they won't watch on a government site |
| classicalgeek | says | heck, I think people will watch ANYTHING if it's on YouTube. |
| patricksweeney | says | classicalgeek: he's officially not a senator anymore. |
| th13rteen | says | yeah he's "president-elect". |
| classicalgeek | says | no, he resigns tomorrow. |
| classicalgeek | says | at this hour he's still a Senator. |
| th13rteen | says | so he's both a senator and president-elect at the same time? |
| patricksweeney | says | oh im sorry, he HANDED IT in the other day, doesnt take effect until tomorrow |
| patricksweeney | says | regardless, i wouldnt classify anyone with Secret Service protection a private citizen. |
| classicalgeek | says | well of course I'm just going by official classifications. i'm not smart enough to make up my own. |
| psaffire | says | I hope he makes the video available for anyone to download and monetize. Because there was an ad when I just saw the vid. |
| psaffire | says | Point is, Google is still a private company, he is president-elect... this is not gelling well... it was fine when he was campaigning. |
| th13rteen | says | he's helping a private company. unfair like i said. |
| classicalgeek | says | he's using a service, the same way we all use plurk, twitter, etc. Here's the thing: with the economy in the crisis it's in, should that |
| classicalgeek | says | money go to his image or to actually helping people? |
| psaffire | says | classicalgeek: we aren't presidents. |
| classicalgeek | says | neither is he, at the moment. in any case, he's entitled to use free services the same as anyone. i personally think it's a brilliant idea |
| classicalgeek | says | to use social networking as he has used twitter, linkedin, youtube, etc. this makes him much more accessible to the average person. |
| classicalgeek | says | if he were using official government sites for his videos we wouldn't be able to leave comments and discuss and rate them, would we? |
| psaffire | says | I think its a brilliant idea too, just not youtube, or any private company. Would you have liked if he used paypal during fundraising? |
| psaffire | says | I dont mind the videos being on youtube, I do mind that its being primarily linked to him. |
| th13rteen | says | @ classicalgeek: do you think that obama is going to check the comments, messages, etc? |
| th13rteen | says | @ classicalgeek: well you can't leave a comment anyway since its disabled. |
| classicalgeek | says | look, this is participatory democracy at its best. did you know that EVERY new bill is going to be posted in its entirety on the white house |
| classicalgeek | says | web site and left there open for comment and discussion for five days before Mr. Obama signs it? |
| classicalgeek | says | and no, Mr. Obama won't read every comment personally. however, one of his staffers will, and they'll take what in their judgment are the |
| classicalgeek | says | best comments and those ideas WILL percolate up to the president's office, if his work on the HLR is anything to judge him by. |
| patricksweeney | says | That's a really way to think. I do think Obama is making some terrific promises, and I like transparency in government. |
| patricksweeney | says | However, he will be lucky if he can pull off 1% of what he wants to. |
| patricksweeney | says | not thru any fault of his own, thats just how politics is. |
| patricksweeney | says | Having all bills displayed on the White House site is great, but like I said, thats were it belongs, not on youtube. |
| patricksweeney | says | Serving his videos is paramount to donating to him; its money he isn't spending. |
| psaffire | says | I agree with patrick. He has a lot of supporters, if they want to download the vids from whitehouse.gov and place it on youtube, perfect. |
| psaffire | says | But for him to be responsible for the videos on youtube, not perfect. |
| classicalgeek | says | well i disagree but then i'm probably older than all of you put together lol. |
| th13rteen | says | @ classicalgeek: is it transparency? or is it just another method to sell? it might just be a distraction. |
| th13rteen | says | so obama's going to let people comment on bills. okay did you ever read the comments on youtube? that should tell you what kind of people... |
| th13rteen | says | are online. there's more trolls and idiots than brainiacs. or at least the average joe. |
| classicalgeek | says | true, which is why the President won't read them himself. but as people begin to get accustomed to the idea that they are responsible for |
| classicalgeek | says | government in many more ways than simply voting, we will see fundamental changes in the way both people and governments operate. it won't be |
| th13rteen | says | i guess the secret service will have to work overtime from now on. lol |
| th13rteen | says | btw, here's another article about this from my bud, allen stern: www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/11/obama_says_yes.html |
| classicalgeek | says | immediate and there will be plenty of trolls and such but the change is coming and has been for a number of years. |
| th13rteen | says | well i like the idea of people commenting and discussing over bills and stuff. but they should do it on change.gov. not any private site. |
| classicalgeek | says | i see he's disabled comments as well. the fact is, people are used to youtube, that is where they go, and this is part of Obama's method of |
| classicalgeek | says | operation, is to go where the people already are. that's why he had ground offices in all 50 states, that's how he got his message across |
| th13rteen | says | makes sense. |
| classicalgeek | says | to the people, and the fact is that it's smart to continue to do what works. if he puts videos on whitehouse.gov he's just not going to get |
| classicalgeek | says | as many viewers as he will on youtube. because youtube is where people go to watch videos, just as you don't buy groceries from your |
| classicalgeek | says | auto mechanic. |
| psaffire | says | Yeah, classicalgeek is right... youtube is where people would see the vids, it will still be there whether he chooses to directly use it... |
| psaffire | says | ... or not. Youtube is still a private company. And Obama is no longer a private individual... just saying, its partiality. |
| psaffire | says | Things like this have happened in history when the gov't favors a private company. Like the bell company and the railroads... |
| th13rteen | says | well this is both good and bad. |
| Arron | says | I thought it was just simple numbers. I've only gone to change.gov, like, twice this week. I go to YouTube about 10 times a day. |
| classicalgeek | says | yes, and his suits come from a private company, the white house limo comes from a private company, the food they eat at the white house |
| classicalgeek | says | comes from a private company, the telephone service they use is from a private company, the schoolbooks their girls will use comes from a |
| classicalgeek | says | private company. oh, wait, google is a public company, lol. so are most of the others. |
| psaffire | says | Its still an unfair advantage to the competitors of youtube. We apparently don't know the name of the limo or telephone company they use. |
| Arron | says | It's called capitalism, psaffire.  |
| Arron | says | It's not like Obama using YouTube lends it any kind of extra credibility it didn't already have. |
| Arron | says | I'm more concerned that they'll take away his BlackBerry once he gets in the white house. |
| Arron | says | It's just... so wrong. |
| psaffire | says | Actually, he is the president of united states, so yes, it does lend youtube extra credibility. This favoritism has nothing to do with... |
| psaffire | says | ...capitalism. It does lead to monopoly, which is a capitalistic effect. |
| Arron | says | Er, YouTube is /already/ a monopoly. |
| Arron | says | You know, what with it being owned by another monopoly. |
| Arron | says | Meaning, its impossible to make the situation worse -- even /if/ Obama uses it, because YouTube is /already/ mainstream stuff. |
| psaffire | says | *sighs* I haven't taken enough history to debate this. Tech is in baby years, that's why we (i.e *you*) can't see anything wrong with this. |
| psaffire | says | Standard Oil (Rockefeller), JP Morgan and govt... do some readings on those. |
| psaffire | says | If he is taking an effort for it to be on youtube, he should also take an effort for it to be on vimeo, and other nameless sites. |
| Arron | says | Aww, you're so mean to me.  |
| psaffire |  you'll be fine. |
| classicalgeek | has | studied **plenty** of history, including economic history, and in 20 years it will be like he never picked any one channel at all. Fads, |
| classicalgeek | thinks | companies, and Presidents come and go every few years and her guess is that in 3 years YouTube will be irrelevant. |
| classicalgeek | says | oh and btw Cadillac makes the Presidential limo, I did know that |
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