| Teeg | says | Welcome to Plurkshop 16, StumbleUpon. |
| LChamp | says | i'll be lurking |
| CookingUpAStory | says | what's plurkshop?! |
| Teeg | says | LChamp This might work better for you: Toolbarless SU Toolbarless StumbleUpon |
| Teeg | says | CookingUpA It's a workshop held on Plurk. Everyone can jump in and ask/answer questions. |
| nowsourcing | says | good evening all! Might I suggest that we all put in our StumbleUpon profiles? nowsourcing.stumbleupon.com - see it's easy |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing Great idea! |
| Teeg | says | my profile is at teeg.stumbleupon.com |
| denise205 | says | I'm denise205 there too, but I never got into it beyond browsing...would love to learn more to enjoy it |
| horribilis | says | I'm ursus13 on SU. |
| Teeg | says | tonight I recommend that you request to be friends instead of only subscribing to people's pages. Friend requests get e-mailed on SU |
| Keli | keliw.stumbleupon.com/ |
| Teeg | says | otherwise if you get more than 10 subscribers before you check it, you won't see everyone. |
| horribilis | says | I don't really know what we're doing here. |
| nowsourcing | says | indeed Teeg. SU used to have it where people could view your SU profile, and they'd zip right by you, only showing the most recent 10. |
| Teeg | says | horribilis Basically just having a discussion about StumbleUpon. You can ask any questions you have, and anyone else can answer. |
| Nikadreamscape |
| horribilis | says | Oh, okay. Thanks for getting me up to speed. |
| zɹɔlɐɔ | asks | is the plurkshop here? or somewhere else, different link? |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing I missed a visiting a lot of new followers because of that. Especially if you're gone for a few days. |
| denise205 | asks | so what are good tips for newbies on SU? |
| ethnicomm | ethnicomm.stumbleupon.com/ |
| LChamp | says | what is the benefit of the SU community? |
| nowsourcing | says | right Teeg. I've had people get mad at me not friending them in the old days simply because I missed them for not logging in every day. |
| Teeg | says | this one might be a little slower than usual, we haven't had a Plurkshop for a few months, but are trying to restart them. |
| Connie | I've had an SU account for a couple of years but never knew what to do with it. |
| zɹɔlɐɔ | So, have they changed the recent visitors? I thought that's the way it has been the entire time? |
| Debra Simpson | says | debrasimpson.stumbleupon.com/ |
| nowsourcing | says | denise205 an important tip for SU newbies is, much the same as other social sites, not be too self-promotional. SU will consider it bad! |
| Keli | what are the basic differences between su and digg? |
| nowsourcing | says | denise205 be sure to have a variety of stumbles, to your interests of course. |
| LChamp | says | yes, teeg |
| denise205 | says | that makes sense, nowsourcing. I haven't gone beyond the browsing stage at SU, though. |
| zɹɔlɐɔ | Oh ok, I see. |
| Teeg | says | It's a good addition, but a little confusing. Now when you follow someone it means you want to see their stumbles, pure and simple. |
| zɹɔlɐɔ | So sort-of like if you want to follow someone on plurk, you get their timeline. |
| Teeg | says | and by requesting friendship, it means you know the person. BUT a friend request sends you an e-mail to let you know about it. |
| ethnicomm | Keli blog.venture-skills.co.uk/2007/04/27/stumbleupon-vs-digg-voyeurs-vs-sheep/ |
| nowsourcing | says | keli great question. StumbleUpon is more like a discovery engine, like channel surfing on TV. Digg is more of the crowd effect. |
| nowsourcing | says | keli although Digg now has something called the recommendation engine, that's supposed to look at your digg preferences and recommend for u |
| sonnygill | Just got here folks. Catching up. |
| Keli | ty |
| gassho | karunaray.stumbleupon.com |
| nowsourcing | says | sleepy marci SU is much like the Plurk timeline. Also, if you hit the stumble button, you see friend recommendations based on your prefs. |
| Teeg | says | Hi Sonny! |
| nowsourcing | says | howdy y'all. come on in, the water's fine |
| nowsourcing | says | something you all might not know is that SU has a community manager. They hired a new one recently - walterofsu.stumbleupon.com/ |
| Teeg | It's important to make sure that your pages are listed under the proper topics, or you won't get the right traffic and people won't stay. |
| LChamp | says | so, if 'my page' is the not-for-profit where I volunteer, it would promote their programs? |
| Teeg | says | If your page is tagged right though, the people who stumbleupon the link by pressing the stumble button will only be people... |
| Teeg | who are interested in that topic. |
| gassho | does everyone find that most visitors from SU tend to stay .01 secs on your blog or site? |
| nowsourcing | says | gassho if you're into analytics, I've found that SU traffic has one of the lowest bounce rates among the large social media sites. |
| Teeg | says | Also, if you include a review of the page, you make sure that your review shows up on all of your friends SU pages. |
| Teeg | says | The Recent Review page is one of my favorite changes SU has made over the past couple years. |
| gassho | nowsourcing not sure what you mean...that SU readers are sticky or...? |
| Teeg | says | Let's say I thumb up and review your nonprofit page. Because I add a review, my review goes out to everyone who is following me... |
| Teeg | says | and they can click on my review on their page to check the site out. IF they like the site as well and want to write a review, |
| nowsourcing | says | gassho I mean that SU readers don't leave right away and stay on more pages typically than Digg, Reddit, etc |
| Teeg | says | That review goes out to all **their** followers. |
| zɹɔlɐɔ | Yes, I've found that to be true too, nowsourcing |
| Teeg | says | If it's a really popular post, it will be passed on from follower to follower, each one sharing it with other friends. |
| gassho | nowsourcing i'm finding that as my blog is circulated more on SU visitors are increasing read time... |
| Teeg | says | Sonny I have a free ebook on my site that goes into the toolbar in depth. |
| Teeg | says | When you get people who are interested in that subject, then they're going to stay longer. |
| KaraSwims | says | here's my profile: karaswims.stumbleupon.com/ |
| nowsourcing | says | gassho Teeg yes, the better distribution and fitting categories, the better...though sometimes you'll have some trolls out to make trouble |
| KaraSwims | says | agrees-I stay on a page much longer than for digg, reddit, or the others. They seem better selected on SU. |
| KaraSwims | says | on the other hand though-I've never experienced the community feel of SU. Maybe I will if I get friends! |
| gassho | traffic is good. readers are better. recently i got 500 visits from SU. i'd say 15% stayed on my blog 90 secs to upwards of 2.5 mins. |
| sonnygill | Gotcha. Well I had no idea you could customize it |
| nowsourcing | says | same here, Teeg. One thing I like to add to the default toolbar is the text search, so I can stumble specifics |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing If I remember right, the email icon isn't on the default toolbar either, and I love knowing when I have a message. |
| sonnygill | nowsourcing - explain the text search. is it as simple as it sounds? |
| nowsourcing | says | Teeg I forget if that is default or not. And yes, email icon is a must have! |
| sonnygill | Ah ok - see that's the problem I have. I haven't grown into leaving the toolbar there instead of hiding it. Need to work on that |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing I also like the "Tag this page" option. Makes it easy to add my own tags. |
| nowsourcing | says | sonnygill it's the Show search / tag box option |
| ethnicomm | Ok I'm showing the toolbar now! |
| Teeg | says | Create your own tags for a page and find the page again by looking through those tags. |
| nowsourcing | says | ethnicomm I don't think I could surf the net anymore without the toolbar |
| nowsourcing | says | there is also something to be said for a good looking SU blog, meaning the pages that you review, not just the ones you like. |
| nowsourcing | says | BarbaraKB howyadoin? |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing I'm the same way. I've tried it when I get a new computer or try a different browser, but I'm miserable without it. |
| Teeg | says | I consider all my friends on there real friends, but as SU grew, they lost a lot of the sense of community that was there before. |
| BarbaraKB | nowsourcing Yo! I like SU 'cuz it's so visual: often better than a text title & tags. Fun for photos & art & videos |
| Teeg | a site like Plurk makes a great combination with SU to me. I can meet people here and get to know them, then add them as a friend there. |
| nowsourcing | says | SU also has some interesting tidbits on their blog, though it hasn't been updated in a while. |
| nowsourcing | says | BarbaraKB yes indeed. Many SU'ers make photostumbles an art |
| Teeg | says | especially if you already leave Google's toolbar up all the time, put them both together and no extra space taken. |
| LChamp | says | how many tracking cookies will SU place on my computer...I clean those off every day, but they are very annoying |
| sonnygill | I think so too Teeg. I'll be reading your tutorial and setting it up to my liking. |
| Teeg | says | A thumb down tells SU that you don't want that type of page, so just getting that without a negative review isn't too bad. |
| Teeg | says | Where it gets bad are when you get people trolling for certain types of sites to write negative reviews about. |
| MikeonTV | shares | mikeontv.stumbleupon.com hehhe.. what else? |
| Teeg | says | SU has been more active lately about trying to get rid of trolls, I know some of the bad ones are gone. I had a post that was trolled |
| nowsourcing | says | aivzdog is just about the coolest Stumbler out there |
| Teeg | and the reviews have disappeared from them. |
| Teeg | says | Social Media, marketing, SEO, etc. were all topics that were apt to get trolled at one time. |
| MikeonTV | asks | would someone please mind discovering this link ?! www.brazencareerist.com/2008/11/10/10-steps-to-resume-success |
| BarbaraKB | just to clarify: thumb down means "I don't wanna see more like this" rather than "this is an awful site" & review means others read reason |
| MikeonTV | asks | Stumble upon is a dandy website created by Canadians!woot! |
| BarbaraKB |
| gassho | i'm gone...laters... |
| BarbaraKB | oops. lastly: wanna mention about submitting own site teeg? and then, I gotta go barbarakb.stumbleupom.com peace! |
| nowsourcing | says | aivzdog is famous, just ask the Internet: nowsourcing.com/blog/2007/10/02/how-do-you-become-a-stumbleupon-power-user-ask-a-16-year-old/ |
| LChamp | says | can you 'vote' more than once with the thumbs? |
| sonnygill | fantastic info Teeg. Appreciate it, but I have to bow out and finish some work. Can find me @ sonnygill.stumbleupon.com - thanks again! |
| Teeg | that your stumbles of that site lose their potency. I think we figured out once stumbling the same site once every 25 or so times is good. |
| Teeg | says | You're welcome Sonny! Thanks for coming! |
| nowsourcing | says | thanks for coming in, sonnygill, good to see ya! |
| Teeg | says | One last thing. Trading stumbles on SU is against their TOS. |
| LChamp | says | can they enforce that? |
| Teeg | says | You can ask someone to look at a page and give it a stumble if they like it, but specifically requesting stumbles is frowned on. |
| ethnicomm | so you don't get the Digg-nation thing happening where 20 people control the top page? |
| nowsourcing | says | Teeg why do they have the sendto then? |
| MikeonTV | asks | hasn't it been a while since a plurkshop? |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing They walk a thin line. |
| ethnicomm | BrilliantJeni alway sends me pages |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing Give me a second and I'll find the link to the TOS section. |
| nowsourcing | says | Teeg good clarification. The more evil sites out there just have random people stumbling ya. Use em & prepare to be banned, ur site too |
| Teeg | says | nowsourcing This should like to it: www.stumbleupon.com/faq.html#incentive_pms |
| Teeg | loves | when friends send her pages they think she'll like, but the ones that just send me messages asking for stumbles are frustrating. |
| Keli | just a check to make sure I am getting the point of SU...I can use it like digg, to share content with colleagues etc who are part of my SU |
| Keli | community, and...it can also be used to generate more traffic to my site(s) and sites I like and want to help? |
| nowsourcing | shares | www.stumbleupon.com/images/su_architecture.png |
| Teeg | says | I almost never use the plain stumble button anymore, but if I'm researching a specific subject, I will use the search button |
| Teeg | and stumble pages just within that subject. |
| CookingUpAStory | says | a bit late, but here I am on SU: cookingupastory.stumbleupon |
| Keli | hmm, so funny I said it twice... |
| ethnicomm | yes yes |
| ethnicomm |
| Keli |
| AllanCockerill | just arrived - hi everyone - a lot of good stuff here Teeg |
| Teeg | wonders | if anyone has a question that hasn't been answered yet? |
| Teeg | says | Hi Allan! Thanks! |
| CookingUpAStory | says | Teeg had to go/come back. Are these Pshops random, or at set time? I've enjoyed reading the thread! Learned some stuff too |
| Keli | well, as you can see from my info I have been there since July. Now I see I have to actually (learn and) use it to garner value |
| AllanCockerill | is | ozegold.stumbleupon.com |
| LChamp | says | i just downloaded the toolbar and it wants to close all my windows...later on that |
| Teeg | says | StumbleUpon is definitely in my top 3. Partly because I like SU users (traffic) more than Digg or sites like that. |
| ethnicomm | is | there a life cycle thing? start off on SU, then Plurk then SL for example? or is it a multi-pronged approach? |
| LChamp | says | for me, it was twitter, plurk, and now SU |
| Teeg | says | I have about a 30% bounce rate with Google visitors, much higher with other sites. |
| Teeg | says | You're welcome. |
| LChamp | says | yeah, since I started plurking, I have plurked/responded about 13,000 times...twittered 27 times |
| Teeg | my blog was originally created to write about SU, but I realized I enjoyed learning about all the social media sites out there, so expanded. |
| Keli | must sign off now, but once more thanks for the inspiration to you and all the fellow helpful plurkers |
| DebInDenver | I am sorry I missed it! I am feeling sick, so am going to go to bed. I look forward to reading through this tomorrow! |
| ethnicomm | g'night all |
| Teeg | will | be back in a bit, but needs to get her little one back to bed first. |
| MackCollier | says | sonnuva buck I forgot ALL about this! Dammit! |
| AllanCockerill | has | to run, thanks for the info Teeg, see you later everyone |
| nowsourcing | says | still going on, folks? Better late than never MackCollier |
| nowsourcing | says | later aivzdog! |
| CookingUpAStory | says | Teeg Is there a way to read this thread on a stand-alone page? Thx for doing this, couldn't stay last night! |
| Teeg | says | CookingUpAStory If you click on "Plurk Page at the bottom right hand corner of this thread, it will open up a new page with just this |
| Teeg | thread and look like this: www.sucomments.com/wp-content/Images/SL%20Plurkshop/pfanderson1.jpg |
| CookingUpAStory | says | Got it! Thx, Teeg ! |
| Teeg | says | You're welcome! |
| PZM | is | reading the plurkshop on StumbleUpon thanks to Teeg. |
| WebBetty | says | I'd like to follow this, but I'm already lost. Maybe I'll plurk this page for later. |
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