Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:31AM LChamp This might work better for you: Toolbarless SU Toolbarless StumbleUpon
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:32AM CookingUpA It's a workshop held on Plurk. Everyone can jump in and ask/answer questions.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:32AM good evening all! Might I suggest that we all put in our StumbleUpon profiles? nowsourcing.stumbleupon.com - see it's easy
denise205 says Nov 11, 2008 01:34AM I'm denise205 there too, but I never got into it beyond browsing...would love to learn more to enjoy it
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:35AM tonight I recommend that you request to be friends instead of only subscribing to people's pages. Friend requests get e-mailed on SU
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:35AM otherwise if you get more than 10 subscribers before you check it, you won't see everyone.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:37AM indeed Teeg. SU used to have it where people could view your SU profile, and they'd zip right by you, only showing the most recent 10.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:38AM horribilis Basically just having a discussion about StumbleUpon. You can ask any questions you have, and anyone else can answer.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:39AM nowsourcing I missed a visiting a lot of new followers because of that. Especially if you're gone for a few days.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:40AM sleepy This is the Plurkshop. The more people who come to it, the busier it gets.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:40AM right Teeg. I've had people get mad at me not friending them in the old days simply because I missed them for not logging in every day.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:41AM this one might be a little slower than usual, we haven't had a Plurkshop for a few months, but are trying to restart them.
Connie Nov 11, 2008 01:41AM I've had an SU account for a couple of years but never knew what to do with it.
calcrz Nov 11, 2008 01:41AM So, have they changed the recent visitors? I thought that's the way it has been the entire time?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:42AM LChamp The benefit of stumbling or the benefit of the community as a social gathering?
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:42AM denise205 an important tip for SU newbies is, much the same as other social sites, not be too self-promotional. SU will consider it bad!
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:42AM denise205 be sure to have a variety of stumbles, to your interests of course.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:43AM sleepy the 10 limit has always been that way, but they've added "friends" as opposed to just having to follow each other.
denise205 says Nov 11, 2008 01:43AM that makes sense, nowsourcing. I haven't gone beyond the browsing stage at SU, though.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:43AM It's a good addition, but a little confusing. Now when you follow someone it means you want to see their stumbles, pure and simple.
calcrz Nov 11, 2008 01:44AM So sort-of like if you want to follow someone on plurk, you get their timeline.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:44AM and by requesting friendship, it means you know the person. BUT a friend request sends you an e-mail to let you know about it.
ethnicomm Nov 11, 2008 01:45AM Keli blog.venture-skills.co.uk/2007/04/27/stumbleupon-vs-digg-voyeurs-vs-sheep/
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:45AM keli great question. StumbleUpon is more like a discovery engine, like channel surfing on TV. Digg is more of the crowd effect.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:46AM Marci If I follow you, I get to see your stumbles. In a bit I'll talk about the Recent Reviews page which will explain it better.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:46AM keli although Digg now has something called the recommendation engine, that's supposed to look at your digg preferences and recommend for u
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:46AM Marci but if I just add you as a friend, I won't see your stumbles, it just shows we know each other.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:48AM LChamp Let's say you want to get the word out about your animal work. SU is a perfect platform for that.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:48AM sleepy marci SU is much like the Plurk timeline. Also, if you hit the stumble button, you see friend recommendations based on your prefs.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:50AM something you all might not know is that SU has a community manager. They hired a new one recently - walterofsu.stumbleupon.com/
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:50AM Lchamp When a page first gets discovered, it is thumbed up and put into the system, possibly with a review added.
Te-ge Nov 11, 2008 01:51AM It's important to make sure that your pages are listed under the proper topics, or you won't get the right traffic and people won't stay.
LChamp says Nov 11, 2008 01:53AM so, if 'my page' is the not-for-profit where I volunteer, it would promote their programs?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:53AM If your page is tagged right though, the people who stumbleupon the link by pressing the stumble button will only be people...
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:53AM LChamp Your page is any page you find interesting enough to stumble, but yes, you can use it to promote their programs.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:54AM gassho if you're into analytics, I've found that SU traffic has one of the lowest bounce rates among the large social media sites.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:54AM Also, if you include a review of the page, you make sure that your review shows up on all of your friends SU pages.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:55AM The Recent Review page is one of my favorite changes SU has made over the past couple years.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:56AM Let's say I thumb up and review your nonprofit page. Because I add a review, my review goes out to everyone who is following me...
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:57AM and they can click on my review on their page to check the site out. IF they like the site as well and want to write a review,
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 01:57AM gassho I mean that SU readers don't leave right away and stay on more pages typically than Digg, Reddit, etc
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 01:58AM Hi teeg & ethnicomm When you get to it Teeg - I think getting into the many features of the toolbar would be great.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 01:59AM If it's a really popular post, it will be passed on from follower to follower, each one sharing it with other friends.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:00AM Sonny I have a free ebook on my site that goes into the toolbar in depth.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:01AM gassho That is one of the big reasons you want to make sure that your stumbles are listed in the right category.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:01AM When you get people who are interested in that subject, then they're going to stay longer.
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 02:02AM Teeg - that's awesome, thank you. Are there certain features than others that we should be aware of or that will help our SU experience?
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:02AM gassho Teeg yes, the better distribution and fitting categories, the better...though sometimes you'll have some trolls out to make trouble
KaraSwims says Nov 11, 2008 02:03AM agrees-I stay on a page much longer than for digg, reddit, or the others. They seem better selected on SU.
KaraSwims says Nov 11, 2008 02:03AM on the other hand though-I've never experienced the community feel of SU. Maybe I will if I get friends!
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:03AM sonny I have my toolbar set up with the tools I use the most, and the default is different, is why I recommend the ebook instead.
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 02:04AM Gotcha. Well I had no idea you could customize it And I'll add to that SU visitors definitely have a lower bounce rate than other sites.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:05AM same here, Teeg. One thing I like to add to the default toolbar is the text search, so I can stumble specifics
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:06AM nowsourcing If I remember right, the email icon isn't on the default toolbar either, and I love knowing when I have a message.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:07AM sonnygill Toolbar options lets you set up your toolbar pretty much the way you want, including adding it beside another toolbar.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:07AM Teeg I forget if that is default or not. And yes, email icon is a must have!
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 02:07AM Ah ok - see that's the problem I have. I haven't grown into leaving the toolbar there instead of hiding it. Need to work on that
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:08AM nowsourcing I also like the "Tag this page" option. Makes it easy to add my own tags.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:09AM Connie By the way, tags on SU work similar to how they do on delicious.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:09AM Create your own tags for a page and find the page again by looking through those tags.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:10AM ethnicomm I don't think I could surf the net anymore without the toolbar
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:10AM there is also something to be said for a good looking SU blog, meaning the pages that you review, not just the ones you like.
BarbaraKB says Nov 11, 2008 02:11AM Hey Teeg. Popping in for second while helping son *write story* on computer: homework!
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:12AM nowsourcing I'm the same way. I've tried it when I get a new computer or try a different browser, but I'm miserable without it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:13AM gassho Community is something I'm hoping will really come back with the new community manager at SU.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:14AM I consider all my friends on there real friends, but as SU grew, they lost a lot of the sense of community that was there before.
BarbaraKB Nov 11, 2008 02:14AM nowsourcing Yo! I like SU 'cuz it's so visual: often better than a text title & tags. Fun for photos & art & videos
Te-ge Nov 11, 2008 02:15AM a site like Plurk makes a great combination with SU to me. I can meet people here and get to know them, then add them as a friend there.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:15AM SU also has some interesting tidbits on their blog, though it hasn't been updated in a while.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:17AM sonnygill I think once you get the toolbar set up where it's useful to you, it'll be easier to leave there.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:18AM especially if you already leave Google's toolbar up all the time, put them both together and no extra space taken.
LChamp says Nov 11, 2008 02:19AM how many tracking cookies will SU place on my computer...I clean those off every day, but they are very annoying
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:19AM BarbaraKB One of the first things I remember about SU is visiting some beautiful photoblogs.
BarbaraKB asks Nov 11, 2008 02:19AM Teeg can u tell if a "friend" is thumbing *down* your discoveries? clarify the troll elements @ SU. confuses me.
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 02:19AM I think so too Teeg. I'll be reading your tutorial and setting it up to my liking.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:19AM LChamp It used to be one, but may have increased. If you use the toolbarless SU, there shouldn't be any.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:20AM BarbaraKB Good question. You can't tell a friend has thumbed down a page unless they review it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:21AM A thumb down tells SU that you don't want that type of page, so just getting that without a negative review isn't too bad.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:22AM Where it gets bad are when you get people trolling for certain types of sites to write negative reviews about.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:23AM SU has been more active lately about trying to get rid of trolls, I know some of the bad ones are gone. I had a post that was trolled
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:24AM Social Media, marketing, SEO, etc. were all topics that were apt to get trolled at one time.
MikeonTV asks Nov 11, 2008 02:24AM would someone please mind discovering this link ?! www.brazencareerist.com/2008/11/10/10-steps-to-resume-success
BarbaraKB Nov 11, 2008 02:25AM just to clarify: thumb down means "I don't wanna see more like this" rather than "this is an awful site" & review means others read reason
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:27AM BarbaraKB Yep. And a thumb up means I really like this and want to see more like it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:28AM BarbaraKB The neat thing though is that each time someone thumbs up a page, it goes out to even more people using the stumblebutton.
BarbaraKB Nov 11, 2008 02:28AM oops. lastly: wanna mention about submitting own site teeg? and then, I gotta go barbarakb.stumbleupom.com peace!
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:29AM aivzdog is famous, just ask the Internet: nowsourcing.com/blog/2007/10/02/how-do-you-become-a-stumbleupon-power-user-ask-a-16-year-old/
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:30AM BarbaraKB Good reminder. On SU, It's okay to submit your blog once, but submitting too many things from the same site means
sonnygill Nov 11, 2008 02:31AM fantastic info Teeg. Appreciate it, but I have to bow out and finish some work. Can find me @ sonnygill.stumbleupon.com - thanks again!
Te-ge Nov 11, 2008 02:31AM that your stumbles of that site lose their potency. I think we figured out once stumbling the same site once every 25 or so times is good.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:33AM aivzdog it does indeed. I think SU also shares it less after you've stumbled any site a couple times.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:35AM You can ask someone to look at a page and give it a stumble if they like it, but specifically requesting stumbles is frowned on.
ethnicomm Nov 11, 2008 02:35AM so you don't get the Digg-nation thing happening where 20 people control the top page?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:36AM LChamp Right now they mostly do with sites that are designed to trade stumbles, but they can ban your account.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:37AM nowsourcing They walk a thin line. The send to is to share interests with your friends, not ask for stumbles I think.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:37AM nowsourcing Give me a second and I'll find the link to the TOS section.
nowsourcing says Nov 11, 2008 02:38AM Teeg good clarification. The more evil sites out there just have random people stumbling ya. Use em & prepare to be banned, ur site too
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:40AM nowsourcing This should like to it: www.stumbleupon.com/faq.html#incentive_pms
Te-ge loves Nov 11, 2008 02:42AM when friends send her pages they think she'll like, but the ones that just send me messages asking for stumbles are frustrating.
Keli Nov 11, 2008 02:42AM just a check to make sure I am getting the point of SU...I can use it like digg, to share content with colleagues etc who are part of my SU
Keli Nov 11, 2008 02:43AM community, and...it can also be used to generate more traffic to my site(s) and sites I like and want to help?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:44AM Keli There is more to SU though. For example, if you're interested in a specific subject, you can find sites specific to it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:45AM I almost never use the plain stumble button anymore, but if I'm researching a specific subject, I will use the search button
CookingUpAStory says Nov 11, 2008 02:46AM a bit late, but here I am on SU: cookingupastory.stumbleupon
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:48AM Keli I just used the search feature and the stumble button and found 10 indian food sites, and I'm sure there are more.
CookingUpAStory says Nov 11, 2008 02:51AM Teeg had to go/come back. Are these Pshops random, or at set time? I've enjoyed reading the thread! Learned some stuff too
Keli Nov 11, 2008 02:51AM well, as you can see from my info I have been there since July. Now I see I have to actually (learn and) use it to garner value
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:52AM aivzdog No problem, it's always nice to meet someone else who loves SU.
LChamp says Nov 11, 2008 02:52AM i just downloaded the toolbar and it wants to close all my windows...later on that
ethnicomm Nov 11, 2008 02:52AM Teeg where do you spend the most of your online time to dev. your biz? and why there?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:53AM ethnicomm You're very welcome. I fell in love with SU the first time I tried it, and love sharing about it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:54AM ethnicomm Right now I'm on Plurk, SU, and SL the most. I don't think there's one social media site that has everything yet.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:55AM StumbleUpon is definitely in my top 3. Partly because I like SU users (traffic) more than Digg or sites like that.
ethnicomm is Nov 11, 2008 02:56AM there a life cycle thing? start off on SU, then Plurk then SL for example? or is it a multi-pronged approach?
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:57AM I have about a 30% bounce rate with Google visitors, much higher with other sites.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:59AM ethnicomm That's the order I started with the sites, but these are the three that I still use repeatedly, so no life cycle so far.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 02:59AM LChamp I left off twitter just because I haven't really gotten back to using it full time since all their problems this summer.
ethnicomm Nov 11, 2008 03:00AM I think I will look into SU more now that you've shed some light on it's utility. Thanks again Teeg
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:01AM You're welcome. If I can help more or answer any questions just let me know.
LChamp says Nov 11, 2008 03:01AM yeah, since I started plurking, I have plurked/responded about 13,000 times...twittered 27 times
Te-ge Nov 11, 2008 03:02AM my blog was originally created to write about SU, but I realized I enjoyed learning about all the social media sites out there, so expanded.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:03AM LChamp I love the conversational abilities of Plurk. There would be no way to do something like this on Twitter.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:06AM aivzdog I sent you a friend request here on Plurk. Do you use the same name on SU too? (I'm Teeg on both.)
Keli Nov 11, 2008 03:06AM must sign off now, but once more thanks for the inspiration to you and all the fellow helpful plurkers
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:07AM aivzdog LOL I recognize your SU picture. I'd thumbed up your page before.
DebInAustin Nov 11, 2008 03:13AM I am sorry I missed it! I am feeling sick, so am going to go to bed. I look forward to reading through this tomorrow!
Te-ge hopes Nov 11, 2008 03:21AM you feel better soon Deb. Let me know if you have any questions after reading it.
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:33AM Mack Let me know if there are any questions you have that we missed and I'll try to cover them in the review.
CookingUpAStory says Nov 11, 2008 03:10PM Teeg Is there a way to read this thread on a stand-alone page? Thx for doing this, couldn't stay last night!
Te-ge says Nov 11, 2008 03:15PM CookingUpAStory If you click on "Plurk Page at the bottom right hand corner of this thread, it will open up a new page with just this
Te-ge Nov 11, 2008 03:18PM thread and look like this: www.sucomments.com/wp-content/Images/SL%20Plurkshop/pfanderson1.jpg
WebBetty says Nov 18, 2008 02:34AM I'd like to follow this, but I'm already lost. Maybe I'll plurk this page for later.