November 11, 2008 at 01:32TeegsaysCookingUpA It's a workshop held on Plurk. Everyone can jump in and ask/answer questions.
November 11, 2008 at 01:32nowsourcingsaysgood evening all! Might I suggest that we all put in our StumbleUpon profiles? nowsourcing.stumbleupon.com - see it's easy
November 11, 2008 at 01:35Teegsaystonight I recommend that you request to be friends instead of only subscribing to people's pages. Friend requests get e-mailed on SU
November 11, 2008 at 01:35Teegsaysotherwise if you get more than 10 subscribers before you check it, you won't see everyone.
November 11, 2008 at 01:36horribilissaysI don't really know what we're doing here.
November 11, 2008 at 01:37nowsourcingsaysindeed Teeg. SU used to have it where people could view your SU profile, and they'd zip right by you, only showing the most recent 10.
November 11, 2008 at 01:38Teegsayshorribilis Basically just having a discussion about StumbleUpon. You can ask any questions you have, and anyone else can answer.
November 11, 2008 at 01:38Nikadreamscape this sounds important!
November 11, 2008 at 01:39horribilissaysOh, okay. Thanks for getting me up to speed.
November 11, 2008 at 01:39ıɔɹɐɯasksis the plurkshop here? or somewhere else, different link?
November 11, 2008 at 01:39Teegsaysnowsourcing I missed a visiting a lot of new followers because of that. Especially if you're gone for a few days.
November 11, 2008 at 01:40Teegsayssleepy This is the Plurkshop. The more people who come to it, the busier it gets.
November 11, 2008 at 01:40denise205asksso what are good tips for newbies on SU?
November 11, 2008 at 01:40LChampsayswhat is the benefit of the SU community?
November 11, 2008 at 01:40nowsourcingsaysright Teeg. I've had people get mad at me not friending them in the old days simply because I missed them for not logging in every day.
November 11, 2008 at 01:41Teegsaysthis one might be a little slower than usual, we haven't had a Plurkshop for a few months, but are trying to restart them.
November 11, 2008 at 01:41ConnieI've had an SU account for a couple of years but never knew what to do with it.
November 11, 2008 at 01:41ıɔɹɐɯSo, have they changed the recent visitors? I thought that's the way it has been the entire time?
November 11, 2008 at 01:42TeegsaysLChamp The benefit of stumbling or the benefit of the community as a social gathering?
November 11, 2008 at 01:42nowsourcingsaysdenise205 an important tip for SU newbies is, much the same as other social sites, not be too self-promotional. SU will consider it bad!
November 11, 2008 at 01:43Teegsayssleepy the 10 limit has always been that way, but they've added "friends" as opposed to just having to follow each other.
November 11, 2008 at 01:43denise205saysthat makes sense, nowsourcing. I haven't gone beyond the browsing stage at SU, though.
November 11, 2008 at 01:43TeegsaysIt's a good addition, but a little confusing. Now when you follow someone it means you want to see their stumbles, pure and simple.
November 11, 2008 at 01:44ıɔɹɐɯSo sort-of like if you want to follow someone on plurk, you get their timeline.
November 11, 2008 at 01:44Teegsaysand by requesting friendship, it means you know the person. BUT a friend request sends you an e-mail to let you know about it.
November 11, 2008 at 01:45nowsourcingsayskeli great question. StumbleUpon is more like a discovery engine, like channel surfing on TV. Digg is more of the crowd effect.
November 11, 2008 at 01:46TeegsaysMarci If I follow you, I get to see your stumbles. In a bit I'll talk about the Recent Reviews page which will explain it better.
November 11, 2008 at 01:46nowsourcingsayskeli although Digg now has something called the recommendation engine, that's supposed to look at your digg preferences and recommend for u
November 11, 2008 at 01:46TeegsaysMarci but if I just add you as a friend, I won't see your stumbles, it just shows we know each other.
November 11, 2008 at 01:47ethnicommTeeg so how do I see my friend's stumbles?
November 11, 2008 at 01:47sonnygillJust got here folks. Catching up.
November 11, 2008 at 01:48TeegsaysLChamp Let's say you want to get the word out about your animal work. SU is a perfect platform for that.
November 11, 2008 at 01:48nowsourcingsayssleepy marci SU is much like the Plurk timeline. Also, if you hit the stumble button, you see friend recommendations based on your prefs.
November 11, 2008 at 01:49Teegisglad to see more people coming in. Hi ethnicomm!
November 11, 2008 at 01:49nowsourcingsayshowdy y'all. come on in, the water's fine
November 11, 2008 at 01:50nowsourcingsayssomething you all might not know is that SU has a community manager. They hired a new one recently - walterofsu.stumbleupon.com/
November 11, 2008 at 01:50TeegsaysLchamp When a page first gets discovered, it is thumbed up and put into the system, possibly with a review added.
November 11, 2008 at 01:51TeegIt's important to make sure that your pages are listed under the proper topics, or you won't get the right traffic and people won't stay.
November 11, 2008 at 01:53LChampsaysso, if 'my page' is the not-for-profit where I volunteer, it would promote their programs?
November 11, 2008 at 01:53TeegsaysIf your page is tagged right though, the people who stumbleupon the link by pressing the stumble button will only be people...
November 11, 2008 at 01:53Teegwho are interested in that topic.
November 11, 2008 at 01:53gasshodoes everyone find that most visitors from SU tend to stay .01 secs on your blog or site?
November 11, 2008 at 01:53TeegsaysLChamp Your page is any page you find interesting enough to stumble, but yes, you can use it to promote their programs.
November 11, 2008 at 01:54nowsourcingsaysgassho if you're into analytics, I've found that SU traffic has one of the lowest bounce rates among the large social media sites.
November 11, 2008 at 01:54TeegsaysAlso, if you include a review of the page, you make sure that your review shows up on all of your friends SU pages.
November 11, 2008 at 01:55TeegsaysThe Recent Review page is one of my favorite changes SU has made over the past couple years.
November 11, 2008 at 01:56gasshonowsourcing not sure what you mean...that SU readers are sticky or...?
November 11, 2008 at 01:56TeegsaysLet's say I thumb up and review your nonprofit page. Because I add a review, my review goes out to everyone who is following me...
November 11, 2008 at 01:57Teegsaysand they can click on my review on their page to check the site out. IF they like the site as well and want to write a review,
November 11, 2008 at 01:57nowsourcingsaysgassho I mean that SU readers don't leave right away and stay on more pages typically than Digg, Reddit, etc
November 11, 2008 at 01:57TeegsaysThat review goes out to all **their** followers.
November 11, 2008 at 01:57ıɔɹɐɯYes, I've found that to be true too, nowsourcing
November 11, 2008 at 01:58sonnygillHi teeg & ethnicomm When you get to it Teeg - I think getting into the many features of the toolbar would be great.
November 11, 2008 at 01:59TeegsaysIf it's a really popular post, it will be passed on from follower to follower, each one sharing it with other friends.
November 11, 2008 at 01:59gasshonowsourcing i'm finding that as my blog is circulated more on SU visitors are increasing read time...
November 11, 2008 at 02:02sonnygillTeeg - that's awesome, thank you. Are there certain features than others that we should be aware of or that will help our SU experience?
November 11, 2008 at 02:02nowsourcingsaysgasshoTeeg yes, the better distribution and fitting categories, the better...though sometimes you'll have some trolls out to make trouble
November 11, 2008 at 02:03KaraSwimssaysagrees-I stay on a page much longer than for digg, reddit, or the others. They seem better selected on SU.
November 11, 2008 at 02:03KaraSwimssayson the other hand though-I've never experienced the community feel of SU. Maybe I will if I get friends!
November 11, 2008 at 02:03Teegsayssonny I have my toolbar set up with the tools I use the most, and the default is different, is why I recommend the ebook instead.
November 11, 2008 at 02:04gasshotraffic is good. readers are better. recently i got 500 visits from SU. i'd say 15% stayed on my blog 90 secs to upwards of 2.5 mins.
November 11, 2008 at 02:04sonnygillGotcha. Well I had no idea you could customize it And I'll add to that SU visitors definitely have a lower bounce rate than other sites.
November 11, 2008 at 02:05nowsourcingsayssame here, Teeg. One thing I like to add to the default toolbar is the text search, so I can stumble specifics
November 11, 2008 at 02:06Teegsaysnowsourcing If I remember right, the email icon isn't on the default toolbar either, and I love knowing when I have a message.
November 11, 2008 at 02:06sonnygillnowsourcing - explain the text search. is it as simple as it sounds?
November 11, 2008 at 02:07Teegsayssonnygill Toolbar options lets you set up your toolbar pretty much the way you want, including adding it beside another toolbar.
November 11, 2008 at 02:07nowsourcingsaysTeeg I forget if that is default or not. And yes, email icon is a must have!
November 11, 2008 at 02:07sonnygillAh ok - see that's the problem I have. I haven't grown into leaving the toolbar there instead of hiding it. Need to work on that
November 11, 2008 at 02:08Teegsaysnowsourcing I also like the "Tag this page" option. Makes it easy to add my own tags.
November 11, 2008 at 02:08nowsourcingsayssonnygill it's the Show search / tag box option
November 11, 2008 at 02:09TeegsaysConnie By the way, tags on SU work similar to how they do on delicious.
November 11, 2008 at 02:09ethnicommOk I'm showing the toolbar now!
November 11, 2008 at 02:09TeegsaysCreate your own tags for a page and find the page again by looking through those tags.
November 11, 2008 at 02:10nowsourcingsaysethnicomm I don't think I could surf the net anymore without the toolbar
November 11, 2008 at 02:10gasshoKaraSwims everything takes time. i've 80 or so 'friends' on SUN & still don't feel community...gotta keep up those relationships.
November 11, 2008 at 02:10nowsourcingsaysthere is also something to be said for a good looking SU blog, meaning the pages that you review, not just the ones you like.
November 11, 2008 at 02:11BarbaraKBsaysHey Teeg. Popping in for second while helping son *write story* on computer: homework!
November 11, 2008 at 02:12Teegsaysnowsourcing I'm the same way. I've tried it when I get a new computer or try a different browser, but I'm miserable without it.
November 11, 2008 at 02:12TeegsaysBarbaraKB Hi! Glad you could pop in!
November 11, 2008 at 02:13Teegsaysgassho Community is something I'm hoping will really come back with the new community manager at SU.
November 11, 2008 at 02:14TeegsaysI consider all my friends on there real friends, but as SU grew, they lost a lot of the sense of community that was there before.
November 11, 2008 at 02:14BarbaraKBnowsourcing Yo! I like SU 'cuz it's so visual: often better than a text title & tags. Fun for photos & art & videos
November 11, 2008 at 02:15Teega site like Plurk makes a great combination with SU to me. I can meet people here and get to know them, then add them as a friend there.
November 11, 2008 at 02:15nowsourcingsaysSU also has some interesting tidbits on their blog, though it hasn't been updated in a while.
November 11, 2008 at 02:17Teegsayssonnygill I think once you get the toolbar set up where it's useful to you, it'll be easier to leave there.
November 11, 2008 at 02:18nowsourcingsaysBarbaraKB yes indeed. Many SU'ers make photostumbles an art
November 11, 2008 at 02:18Teegsaysespecially if you already leave Google's toolbar up all the time, put them both together and no extra space taken.
November 11, 2008 at 02:19LChampsayshow many tracking cookies will SU place on my computer...I clean those off every day, but they are very annoying
November 11, 2008 at 02:19TeegsaysBarbaraKB One of the first things I remember about SU is visiting some beautiful photoblogs.
November 11, 2008 at 02:19BarbaraKBasksTeeg can u tell if a "friend" is thumbing *down* your discoveries? clarify the troll elements @ SU. confuses me.
November 11, 2008 at 02:19sonnygillI think so too Teeg. I'll be reading your tutorial and setting it up to my liking.
November 11, 2008 at 02:19TeegsaysLChamp It used to be one, but may have increased. If you use the toolbarless SU, there shouldn't be any.
November 11, 2008 at 02:20TeegsaysBarbaraKB Good question. You can't tell a friend has thumbed down a page unless they review it.
November 11, 2008 at 02:21TeegsaysA thumb down tells SU that you don't want that type of page, so just getting that without a negative review isn't too bad.
November 11, 2008 at 02:22TeegsaysWhere it gets bad are when you get people trolling for certain types of sites to write negative reviews about.
November 11, 2008 at 02:23TeegsaysSU has been more active lately about trying to get rid of trolls, I know some of the bad ones are gone. I had a post that was trolled
November 11, 2008 at 02:23nowsourcingsaysaivzdog is just about the coolest Stumbler out there
November 11, 2008 at 02:23Teegand the reviews have disappeared from them.
November 11, 2008 at 02:24TeegsaysSocial Media, marketing, SEO, etc. were all topics that were apt to get trolled at one time.
November 11, 2008 at 02:25TeegsaysNice to meet you, aivzdog!
November 11, 2008 at 02:25BarbaraKBjust to clarify: thumb down means "I don't wanna see more like this" rather than "this is an awful site" & review means others read reason
November 11, 2008 at 02:26MikeonTVasksStumble upon is a dandy website created by Canadians!woot!
November 11, 2008 at 02:27gasshoi'm gone...laters...
November 11, 2008 at 02:27TeegsaysBarbaraKB Yep. And a thumb up means I really like this and want to see more like it.
November 11, 2008 at 02:28TeegsaysBarbaraKB The neat thing though is that each time someone thumbs up a page, it goes out to even more people using the stumblebutton.
November 11, 2008 at 02:30LChampsayscan you 'vote' more than once with the thumbs?
November 11, 2008 at 02:30TeegsaysBarbaraKB Good reminder. On SU, It's okay to submit your blog once, but submitting too many things from the same site means
November 11, 2008 at 02:31sonnygillfantastic info Teeg. Appreciate it, but I have to bow out and finish some work. Can find me @ sonnygill.stumbleupon.com - thanks again!
November 11, 2008 at 02:31Teegthat your stumbles of that site lose their potency. I think we figured out once stumbling the same site once every 25 or so times is good.
November 11, 2008 at 02:32TeegsaysYou're welcome Sonny! Thanks for coming!
November 11, 2008 at 02:33Teegsaysaivzdog it does indeed. I think SU also shares it less after you've stumbled any site a couple times.
November 11, 2008 at 02:33nowsourcingsaysthanks for coming in, sonnygill, good to see ya!
November 11, 2008 at 02:34TeegsaysOne last thing. Trading stumbles on SU is against their TOS.
November 11, 2008 at 02:35LChampsayscan they enforce that?
November 11, 2008 at 02:35TeegsaysYou can ask someone to look at a page and give it a stumble if they like it, but specifically requesting stumbles is frowned on.
November 11, 2008 at 02:35ethnicommso you don't get the Digg-nation thing happening where 20 people control the top page?
November 11, 2008 at 02:35nowsourcingsaysTeeg why do they have the sendto then?
November 11, 2008 at 02:36TeegsaysLChamp Right now they mostly do with sites that are designed to trade stumbles, but they can ban your account.
November 11, 2008 at 02:36MikeonTVaskshasn't it been a while since a plurkshop?
November 11, 2008 at 02:37Teegsaysnowsourcing They walk a thin line. The send to is to share interests with your friends, not ask for stumbles I think.
November 11, 2008 at 02:37TeegsaysMike It has, we're just getting them started again.
November 11, 2008 at 02:37ethnicommBrilliantJeni alway sends me pages
November 11, 2008 at 02:37Teegsaysnowsourcing Give me a second and I'll find the link to the TOS section.
November 11, 2008 at 02:38nowsourcingsaysTeeg good clarification. The more evil sites out there just have random people stumbling ya. Use em & prepare to be banned, ur site too
November 11, 2008 at 02:42Teegloveswhen friends send her pages they think she'll like, but the ones that just send me messages asking for stumbles are frustrating.
November 11, 2008 at 02:42Kelijust a check to make sure I am getting the point of SU...I can use it like digg, to share content with colleagues etc who are part of my SU
November 11, 2008 at 02:43Kelicommunity, and...it can also be used to generate more traffic to my site(s) and sites I like and want to help?
November 11, 2008 at 02:44TeegsaysKeli There is more to SU though. For example, if you're interested in a specific subject, you can find sites specific to it.
November 11, 2008 at 02:45ethnicommKeli there must be an indian food site LOL
November 11, 2008 at 02:45TeegsaysI almost never use the plain stumble button anymore, but if I'm researching a specific subject, I will use the search button
November 11, 2008 at 02:45Teegand stumble pages just within that subject.
November 11, 2008 at 02:48TeegsaysKeli I just used the search feature and the stumble button and found 10 indian food sites, and I'm sure there are more.
November 11, 2008 at 02:49AllanCockerilljust arrived - hi everyone - a lot of good stuff here Teeg
November 11, 2008 at 02:49Teegwondersif anyone has a question that hasn't been answered yet?
November 11, 2008 at 02:50TeegsaysHi Allan! Thanks!
November 11, 2008 at 02:51CookingUpAStorysaysTeeg had to go/come back. Are these Pshops random, or at set time? I've enjoyed reading the thread! Learned some stuff too
November 11, 2008 at 02:51Keliwell, as you can see from my info I have been there since July. Now I see I have to actually (learn and) use it to garner value
November 11, 2008 at 02:51ethnicommTeeg thanks for the overview
November 11, 2008 at 02:52Teegsaysaivzdog No problem, it's always nice to meet someone else who loves SU.
November 11, 2008 at 02:52LChampsaysi just downloaded the toolbar and it wants to close all my windows...later on that
November 11, 2008 at 02:52ethnicommTeeg where do you spend the most of your online time to dev. your biz? and why there?
November 11, 2008 at 02:53Teegsaysethnicomm You're very welcome. I fell in love with SU the first time I tried it, and love sharing about it.
November 11, 2008 at 02:54Teegsaysethnicomm Right now I'm on Plurk, SU, and SL the most. I don't think there's one social media site that has everything yet.
November 11, 2008 at 02:55TeegsaysStumbleUpon is definitely in my top 3. Partly because I like SU users (traffic) more than Digg or sites like that.
November 11, 2008 at 02:56ethnicommisthere a life cycle thing? start off on SU, then Plurk then SL for example? or is it a multi-pronged approach?
November 11, 2008 at 02:57LChampsaysfor me, it was twitter, plurk, and now SU
November 11, 2008 at 02:57TeegsaysI have about a 30% bounce rate with Google visitors, much higher with other sites.
November 11, 2008 at 02:58Teegsaysaivzdog It's Second Life.
November 11, 2008 at 02:59Teegsaysethnicomm That's the order I started with the sites, but these are the three that I still use repeatedly, so no life cycle so far.
November 11, 2008 at 02:59TeegsaysLChamp I left off twitter just because I haven't really gotten back to using it full time since all their problems this summer.
November 11, 2008 at 03:00ethnicommI think I will look into SU more now that you've shed some light on it's utility. Thanks again Teeg
November 11, 2008 at 03:01TeegsaysYou're welcome. If I can help more or answer any questions just let me know.
November 11, 2008 at 03:01LChampsaysyeah, since I started plurking, I have plurked/responded about 13,000 times...twittered 27 times
November 11, 2008 at 03:02Teegmy blog was originally created to write about SU, but I realized I enjoyed learning about all the social media sites out there, so expanded.
November 11, 2008 at 03:02Teegsaysaivzdog I do too.
November 11, 2008 at 03:03TeegsaysLChamp I love the conversational abilities of Plurk. There would be no way to do something like this on Twitter.
November 11, 2008 at 03:06Teegsaysaivzdog I sent you a friend request here on Plurk. Do you use the same name on SU too? (I'm Teeg on both.)
November 11, 2008 at 03:06Kelimust sign off now, but once more thanks for the inspiration to you and all the fellow helpful plurkers
November 11, 2008 at 03:07Teegsaysaivzdog LOL I recognize your SU picture. I'd thumbed up your page before.
November 11, 2008 at 03:08TeegsaysKeli You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it.
November 11, 2008 at 03:13DebInDenverI am sorry I missed it! I am feeling sick, so am going to go to bed. I look forward to reading through this tomorrow!
November 11, 2008 at 15:10CookingUpAStorysaysTeeg Is there a way to read this thread on a stand-alone page? Thx for doing this, couldn't stay last night!
November 11, 2008 at 15:15TeegsaysCookingUpAStory If you click on "Plurk Page at the bottom right hand corner of this thread, it will open up a new page with just this