| saltybeagle | says | speaker is C. Daniel Chase from UC Boulder |
| saltybeagle | presentation is more philosophy and concepts than technical details |
| saltybeagle | get feedback constantly, build it around motivated individuals, business and developers work together daily |
| saltybeagle | says | emphasis on face to face conversation = one large room with all the programmers |
| daugustine | says | working software primary measure of progress |
| edames | says | I wish I had a separate office  |
| saltybeagle | says | daugustine, I think that's a huge point. I wonder who determines when it is 'working' developers, or end users? |
| daugustine | says | it's hard to say, "working" to me as a developer means something different than "working" to an end-user |
| daugustine | says | many times, if an end user doesn't know how to use an application, they think it's non-working |
| saltybeagle | says | www.agilealliance.org/ |
| saltybeagle | says | daugustine true |
| edames | says | Scrum has been thrown around within the CBA Dev team in the past 4 years because we tend to approach projects without emphasis on structure. |
| saltybeagle | says | advocating source code management |
| edames | says | Don't think we truly have all the characteristics of Scrum. |
| almostcool | says | saltybeagle, related to this session, what was that University Newsroom site we saw that was so good? |
| edames | says | Version control, release tracking, development vs production code lines |
| edames | says | We are working on release tracking. How many builds inclement a version or sub-version |
| edames | says | or do you do it by features or components added? |
| saltybeagle | says | almostcool news.ncsu.edu/ |
| saltybeagle | says | emphasizing Test Driven Development, Unit Testing and Functional Testing |
| Mort_Blort | when we complete our newworkspace, face-to-face coding meetings will be more possible. |
| edames | says | Ruby on Rails has behavior testing where it runs the test, does the ajax call for json/xml (test the response) |
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