| saltybeagle | is | in TPR6 - HTTP 201 "What happens when your user-agent isn't a browser" #heweb08 |
Oct 06, 2008 -
09:16PM
| saltybeagle | is | in TPR6 - HTTP 201 "What happens when your user-agent isn't a browser" #heweb08 |
| saltybeagle | says | he's using wireshark to sniff the http request, on his mac |
| saltybeagle | says | Giving an overview of REST architecture. Fairly basic stuff so far. |
| ryanlim | says | that's how i reversed engineered plurk's calls  |
| saltybeagle | says | rockin' the telnet for HTTP requests. wooot |
| saltybeagle | says | even telnet for PUT -he's hard core. Helps with understanding what's happening. |
| ryanlim | says | yea. urlencode everything, calculate the content length, bla bla |
| saltybeagle | says | I'm getting ideas for json output formats for the unl events calendar. |
| daugustine | says | could be very useful for pulling ldap and active directory information... |
| saltybeagle | says | peoplefinder.unl.edu/service.php?uid=bbieber2&format=json |
| saltybeagle | says | no documentation.  |
| saltybeagle | says | need to update this page www1.unl.edu/wdn/wiki/Peoplefinder_Services |
| saltybeagle | says | he's covering some important aspects of REST design, noting supported methods etc. Pretty good content in this presentation |
| saltybeagle | says | hmm, I'm not impressed by his PHP. No OO code at all. |
| saltybeagle | says | maybe this is just scrap/example code. |
| daugustine | says | his code was very ick |
| alvin | says | "hmm, I'm not impressed by his PHP. No OO code at all." brett, you are starting to talk like a java programmer! |
| saltybeagle | says | "I couldn't find a PHP library that would let me change the http method" ?? pear.php.net/package/HTTP_Request/docs/latest/HTTP_Request/HTTP_Request.html#methodsetMethod |
| alvin | says | oh ok. that's lame of him. even i know that. |
| saltybeagle | says | same functionality as the perl http::request lib |
| ryanlim | says | brett, to be honest, imho pear kind of sucks. lots of potentially good packages don't have proper docs. |
| saltybeagle | says | meh, source code & api docs are more useful to me than end user docs that don't explain anything |
| ryanlim | says | the one example now that i'd give would be formbuilder. really nice... but docs are hideous. |
| saltybeagle | says | yeah FB has bad docs. It's so package specific though... some have excellent docs |
| saltybeagle | says | PEAR2 will require end user docs before a package can go stable. |
| ryanlim | says | yea. maybe. but people expect documentation. pear is just a jumbled mess. |
| saltybeagle | says | s/pear/open source/ |
| ryanlim | says | maybe it is just PHP. i'm starting to feel that the PHP docs are no longer useful. they were. once upon a time |
| daugustine | says | I agree, the php docs have regressed to being not very useful in some cases, they used to be great, don't know what happened |
| saltybeagle | says | whoah whoah --- php.net has one of the best manuals of any language I've seen |
| daugustine | says | although, compare them to some msdn docs... the bad php docs look like gold |
| saltybeagle | says | man, you guys sure bitch a lot about the free software you want to use |
| saltybeagle | says | |
| saltybeagle | says | take a look at all the commits I've made to peardoc - your complaints are falling on deaf ears. If you don't like it, fix it! |
| ryanlim | says | i'd fix it if i knew what the heck some of the functions/methods did. |
| alvin | says | pascal FTW!!! |
| ryanlim | says | assembly! |
| daugustine | says | prolog baby |
| evilpythagoras | says | seconds ryanlim on formbuilder. steep learning curve |
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