shaf Jun 05, 2008 11:33AM They have to scale their services first.... IM is down + xml is down which is starting to worry me.
yojibee Jun 05, 2008 11:35AM I was actually happy that IM is down..maybe I can get some work done now
yojibee Jun 05, 2008 11:35AM but I do hope they have learned just a little bit about scaling from Twitter
shaf thinks Jun 05, 2008 11:40AM that the IM service is the yardstick to measure how solid a service is. IM is complicated technically to offer.
yojibee thinks Jun 05, 2008 11:46AM they weren't really prepared for Leo Laporte/his words and it's aftermath yet
shaf Jun 05, 2008 11:48AM hopes we are not talking about twitter ! A distant fragmented memory for me.
shaf Jun 05, 2008 11:51AM in a way so am I but if it can thread conversations out of tweets I would be right back there. Subject to a solid SLA
yojibee Jun 05, 2008 12:16PM a mix of these two would have been perfect! (and a dash of FriendFeed too)
yojibee thinks Jun 05, 2008 12:25PM where the conversation should jump to the top..easier to follow where the conversation happens then
yojibee thinks Jun 05, 2008 12:26PM plurks/tweets where conversation happens, should be on top. It makes it easier to follow the conversation as it happens
dhague Jun 05, 2008 01:54PM Are we starting to design the next-gen service here? Perhaps ccmehil could sort out venture capital and we could run on NetWeaver...
yojibee Jun 05, 2008 01:56PM do you know any developers with time on their hands? oliver also has many good ideas
dhague Jun 05, 2008 01:57PM I'm already investigating Skittr for NetWeaver - it pushes messages straight to the browser, so very responsive & bandwidth-efficient.
dhague Jun 05, 2008 01:58PM oliver Do let me know. Wouldn't it be funny if we used Plurk to design its successor? A bit like Deep Thought in H2G2.
yojibee Jun 05, 2008 02:02PM it would be so much fun! And no one would expect it from a bunch of SAP guys (and girl)
oliverkohl Jun 05, 2008 02:41PM Ideas are not a problem For now I have to struggle with different names on all the platforms. oliver only exists on Twitter
oliverkohl thinks Jun 05, 2008 02:43PM building on top of a (stable) established platform makes sense and Twitter is mostly perfect for this (if it is available at all).
shaf Jun 05, 2008 02:50PM shudders to think how much the consultancy costs are going to be - let alone implementing a solution !
oliverkohl Jun 05, 2008 03:00PM shaf think about all the 30 seconds to wait for a deployment...that sums up
oliverkohl Jun 05, 2008 03:01PM What about building a social network platform on top of EP using UME as social graph + integrating backend notifications from R/3?
dhague Jun 05, 2008 07:32PM oliverkohl did you read the article about Twitter scalability issues? www.hueniverse.com/hueniverse/2008/03/on-scaling-a-mi.html
dhague Jun 05, 2008 07:33PM Riffing on Henning's Sapphire theme, use TREX/column-oriented access for all reads.
ccmehil says Jun 05, 2008 08:15PM I'm here just kind of watching it's been a rough day and I got a train to catch in the morning for Bonn
yojibee says Jun 05, 2008 08:24PM There's a lot going on in Lippstadt at the moment..I hope you find some time to rest in between..
ccmehil says Jun 05, 2008 09:03PM rest? what's that oh wait I think I have a bed around here somewhere I remember it kind of LOL
shaf says Jun 05, 2008 09:57PM dhague thanks for the link which I didn't find spicy enough however the responses were great ! I finally ended up here...
shaf shares Jun 05, 2008 09:58PM www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/22/twitter-at-scale-will-it-work/#comment-2325662
oliverkohl Jun 06, 2008 07:28AM dhague Haven't read it yet. With Twitters issues there should be a lot of material out there about horizontal scaling of such a service.
oliverkohl Jun 06, 2008 07:29AM But in respect to our usual customers I would go for a intranet solution with connection to the outside of course.
oliverkohl Jun 06, 2008 07:30AM A product based on EP to enable social capabilities inside a company. How about that?
dhague Jun 06, 2008 08:06AM That's exactly what I'm thinking. Being SAP, we should be working on Enterprise Twitter/Plurk. Good focus & business case.
oliverkohl Jun 06, 2008 08:11AM dhague I think we have to talk. Damn, you were in Munich with sig and Sterling? How could I missed you?
dhague Jun 06, 2008 09:16AM I've created a SDN Wiki page to continue the discussion: https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/Community/Enterprise+Social+Messaging+Experiment+%28ESME%29
oliverkohl Jun 06, 2008 09:32AM We need some concept, use cases, etc. The wiki is a good place to start.
yellowpark Jun 06, 2008 09:40AM No business use? Am I in a thread of SAP peeps collaborating on a thread. that's one, surely?
shaf Jun 06, 2008 09:45AM yellowpark I'm definitely not SAP but have used ECMs in the past - would be interesting to see what Netweaver can do.