September 16, 2008 at 20:04DebInDenversayshowdy! I just have to get my soup. Connie do you want to do the re-cap or have me do it?
September 16, 2008 at 20:01Beth Hartesayshi there!
September 16, 2008 at 20:01Tim JacksonAm I in the right place? My brain is SO cooked.
September 16, 2008 at 20:05onepinkteeI was cleaning up my Delicious links this weekend in anticipation of this
September 16, 2008 at 20:05sonnygilli dont even wanna know how my links are looking
September 16, 2008 at 20:05ConnieI would appreciate someone else doing the recap. I'm swamped. Teaching a workshop tomorrow and ... well ... haven't finished my preso.
September 16, 2008 at 20:06ConnieTara, would come clean up my Delicious links? LOL I need to spend some time bundling some tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:03Teegwondersif Del fixed their RSS issues
September 16, 2008 at 20:06DebInDenversaysOK, I will write it, unless we have someone just DYING to write a recap
September 16, 2008 at 20:06ConnieLet's see, we've got Sonny and TIM (sorry for shouting) and Beth and Deb and Tara and Teeg.
September 16, 2008 at 20:04DebInDenversaysI opened up delicious in anticipation of this plurkshop...
September 16, 2008 at 20:04ConnieTeeg, I don't know if the fixed the RSS issues because I do not use their RSS feed.
September 16, 2008 at 20:04DebInDenversaysnethead replurked it, so he may be lurking here somewhere...
September 16, 2008 at 20:07Tim JacksonYes... I'm here for a change. I feel like such a hobo...
September 16, 2008 at 20:04ConnieHow do you use the RSS feed, Teeg - to subscribe to a content tag or to follow another user's tags?
September 16, 2008 at 20:05onepinkteesaysI'd volunteer to recap, but I have TWO client data reports to finish by Friday
September 16, 2008 at 20:08ConnieActually, that's getting ahead of myself but I'm curious about that.
September 16, 2008 at 20:08onepinkteesaysthat's the reason I had to dash back to the office....
September 16, 2008 at 20:05ConnieDoes everyone understand the concept of tagging, or do we need to spend a minute or two on that?
September 16, 2008 at 20:05TeegsaysActually, I have a problem with their RSS anytime I add someone else's pages to my Del page
September 16, 2008 at 20:09DebInDenversaysyou know, I would like to know how to tag multiple words so they don't come out two separate words- like social media- do I need to put in
September 16, 2008 at 20:09Tim JacksonI'm so backwards, I have never used delicious ever... AND I don't even have an RSS feed.
September 16, 2008 at 20:09Teegsaysit adds that page to my RSS list like I'd written whatever it is, and shares that link anywhere that tracks RSS feeds
September 16, 2008 at 20:07Connieokay, I'm going to take a minute to explain tags and then I'll get to Deb's question about compound tags
September 16, 2008 at 20:07DebInDenversaysso Tim you are here to do color commentary?
September 16, 2008 at 20:10sonnygillyes u can go over tagging i think
September 16, 2008 at 20:07Kellye_CranesaysI'm here too (a bit late)
September 16, 2008 at 20:07ConnieThink back to the olden days when we all worked in offices and handled a lot of paper ... somebody had to file it.
September 16, 2008 at 20:07ConnieAnd once upon a time it was me. I hated it, btw. Still do. But that's another story.
September 16, 2008 at 20:11ConnieAnyway, when you are filing paper, you can only put it in one folder. So you have to be very specific about the label you put on it --
September 16, 2008 at 20:08Tim JacksonDiD- I've color... to spare.
September 16, 2008 at 20:11Conniebecause you are later going to have to remember that one label if you want to retrieve it.
September 16, 2008 at 20:08ConnieYou could cross-reference it, but that mean you had to make a physical copy of the paper and then put it in a second file folder.
September 16, 2008 at 20:12ConnieSo not a lot of cross-referencing got done.
September 16, 2008 at 20:12ConnieWith electronic documents, you don't have those physical limitations; you can "file" that document in as many folders as you want to --
September 16, 2008 at 20:12Connieand that is by using tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:10ConnieGmail is a great example of this. You can put more than one label on an email and that is their equivalent of an Outlook folder.
September 16, 2008 at 20:13ConnieThat means you can click on any one of the labels a document is stored under and easily retrieve it.
September 16, 2008 at 20:14ConnieEverybody clear so far, or do we have questions?
September 16, 2008 at 20:14ConnieDon't everybody speak at once.
September 16, 2008 at 20:11onepinkteesaysgreat explanation, Connie
September 16, 2008 at 20:14Tim JacksonWhat's a file...
September 16, 2008 at 20:14DebInDenversaysI am clear *waiting with baited breath to learn about compound tags*
September 16, 2008 at 20:12ConnieLOL Breathe, Deb. Tim, you may need to stay after class .....
September 16, 2008 at 20:15onepinkteesaysI always put them together as one word, so socialmedia
September 16, 2008 at 20:15ConnieDelicious is another way of tagging electronic documents -- blog posts, articles and other content.
September 16, 2008 at 20:13TeegLOL and Great explanation Connie
September 16, 2008 at 20:13ConnieDelicious is also called social bookmarking -- it's a way you can bookmark a site/page to find it later, and you can also share it w/
September 16, 2008 at 20:17ConnieThe bookmarklets -- little tools that you copy to your toolbar -- make it very easy to tag / describe / share the content without ever
September 16, 2008 at 20:17sonnygillgood explanation.
September 16, 2008 at 20:14Connieleaving the page you're on.
September 16, 2008 at 20:18ConnieAs a writer, I love delicious for research. For one thing, it's a way for me to retrieve stuff I've marked as important.
September 16, 2008 at 20:15ConnieMore than that, I can go find out what YOU have been bookmarking. You might have found info I didn't find in my initial research.
September 16, 2008 at 20:15ConnieSo I describe Delicious as a way to get the smartest people in the world to do your research -- for free.
September 16, 2008 at 20:15sonnygillinteresting - never thought of it to use for research.
September 16, 2008 at 20:19Conniethat's my number 1 use for it, Sonny.
September 16, 2008 at 20:19Conniemany other uses for it, but as a writer that is what first attracted me to Delicious.
September 16, 2008 at 20:19onepinkteesaysyeah, I love to go looking for tags and who's tagged what - and to see what OTHER tags they're using
September 16, 2008 at 20:19ConnieLet's talk about some other uses for it .... Class? Anyone? Bueller?
September 16, 2008 at 20:19sonnygilli'm definitely going to have to try that. do you search from all users or specific ppl, etc?
September 16, 2008 at 20:19DebInDenversaysI should have been trolling that for my Emily Dickinson project today!
September 16, 2008 at 20:17ConnieSonny, I do both.
September 16, 2008 at 20:17DebInDenversaysI want to find social networks where people discuss Emily Dickinson (really this is for a blog post)
September 16, 2008 at 20:20Tim JacksonOk, so I'm convinced- I'll join.
September 16, 2008 at 20:17ConnieFor example, if I am writing about PR, I'm going to go to Delicious and find out what Brian Solis has bookmarked.
September 16, 2008 at 20:20ConnieNow, I have to know his user name -- but most of us social media types are predictable and use the same user names over & over.
September 16, 2008 at 20:20onepinkteesaysI've used it a lot for trip planning
September 16, 2008 at 20:18Kellye_CraneI love it for research, too. Are you going to talk about how to use the "My Network" function? I'm unfamiliar with that.
September 16, 2008 at 20:21ConnieHow do you use it for trip planning, Pinky?
September 16, 2008 at 20:21onepinkteesaysand for gift shopping - if I see something someone might like, I'll tag it accordingly
September 16, 2008 at 20:18ConnieDo you tag it with their name?
September 16, 2008 at 20:21onepinkteesaysso when a gift-giving occasion rolls around, I have a list of ideas and right where to buy them
September 16, 2008 at 20:19ConnieThat is a great idea!
September 16, 2008 at 20:19onepinkteesayssometimes I tag with names - but only for people who I know won't see
September 16, 2008 at 20:22ConnieDelicious becomes your shopping list.
September 16, 2008 at 20:22onepinkteesaysI just deleted some tags for a person I don't plan on buying any more gifts for
September 16, 2008 at 20:19Teegused to love looking at the new pages when I was trying to find new items for StumbleUpon
September 16, 2008 at 20:19ConnieYou can also SEND something to another user on Delicious. In fact, I pitched my blog to Steve Rubel that way.
September 16, 2008 at 20:23DebInDenversaysyeah- you'd have to use code names for family members who also use delicious!
September 16, 2008 at 20:20Tim JacksonSo if I want to find tags related to Masi, what do I do?
September 16, 2008 at 20:23onepinkteesaysfor trip planning, I use it to gather ideas - hotels I'm considering, restaurant reviews, transportation
September 16, 2008 at 20:23ConnieSo if you want to send me a blog post you're particularly proud of, or an article you think I would enjoy, you would tag it for:conniereece
September 16, 2008 at 20:20DebInDenversayssneaky pitch!
September 16, 2008 at 20:20Beth HartesaysI'd like to know how it's used for social networking...I just use it to bookmark my stuff
September 16, 2008 at 20:23onepinkteesaysI had a lot of tags for our London/Paris trip, for instance
September 16, 2008 at 20:20ConnieDeb, he asked to be pitched that way!
September 16, 2008 at 20:20DebInDenversaysI meant that in a creative way!
September 16, 2008 at 20:21DebInDenversaysactually, I like that kind of pitch idea better than microblogging.
September 16, 2008 at 20:21Tim JacksonOPT- I KNEW I made you mad...
September 16, 2008 at 20:21ConnieAnd you can use it very creatively. Steve didn't want a lot of emails but he wanted to discover new blogs ...
September 16, 2008 at 20:22Connieso he told us how to send a post to him via Delicious, and sure enough I got on his "new voices" list, which senet a lot of traffic my way
September 16, 2008 at 20:25AdamSherksays before tagging your own content it's good to check what popular tags might be a good fit
September 16, 2008 at 20:22DebInDenversaysgood tip Adam!
September 16, 2008 at 20:25ConnieYes, Adam, and you can subscribe to tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:25AdamSherksays this can help get your pages in front of more people
September 16, 2008 at 20:23ConnieSomeone asked earlier about compound phrases -- Pinky uses one word, i.e. socialmedia. I do too.
September 16, 2008 at 20:23ConnieOthers use a + sign, social+media.
September 16, 2008 at 20:23Kellye_CraneThe "for" function sounds really cool. How does it show up for the recipient?
September 16, 2008 at 20:26ConnieThere has to be a connector; can't have spaces in a tag.
September 16, 2008 at 20:27ConnieAnd as a Mac person, I boycott the underscore in user names and tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:28ConnieSquirreling back to see what questions I missed.
September 16, 2008 at 20:28DebInDenversaysI just realized that I have "0" people in my network, so I am on here looking for you all while we talk.
September 16, 2008 at 20:28ConnieTim, first thing you would do is to search Delicious for the name Masi and then Masiguy.
September 16, 2008 at 20:25ConnieAnd of course that's going to be a person who is into cycling, so probably someone you want to add to your network.
September 16, 2008 at 20:29ConnieAnd they just might be someone you want to blog about or link to.
September 16, 2008 at 20:26Kellye_CraneDeb makes me think of another question! Connie: do you have separate accounts for personal/work stuff?
September 16, 2008 at 20:29ConnieI only use Delicious for work stuff, so no. But I would recommend different accounts if needed. Or ....
September 16, 2008 at 20:30ConnieIf I bookmark something I don't want anyone else to see, you can tag it for your username only, to make it private.
September 16, 2008 at 20:31Tim JacksonConnie- is it effective fro "conversation mining", as I like to call it?
September 16, 2008 at 20:28ConnieDo you know about the Note field when you tag something in Delicious?
September 16, 2008 at 20:31onepinkteesaysyeah, I make use of private a lot
September 16, 2008 at 20:31obsidianspiderisIs there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
September 16, 2008 at 20:31obsidianspiderisIs there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
September 16, 2008 at 20:29onepinkteesaysinterestingly, that's a lot of what I cleaned out this week
September 16, 2008 at 20:29ConnieYou can't mark it for a group, but you could mark it for more than one person.
September 16, 2008 at 20:32TeegDeb, I'm Teeg on there
September 16, 2008 at 20:33ConnieActually, they've been doing some recent updates and I haven't checked out all the new features. Being able to share resources w/ a
September 16, 2008 at 20:33Beth Hartesaysall, obsidianspider is a friend of mine. This is his 1st Plurkshop.
September 16, 2008 at 20:33Conniegroup would be awesome.
September 16, 2008 at 20:33sonnygillits amazing how much u really can do with it. had no idea
September 16, 2008 at 20:31ConnieI take time to use the Note feature now because it helps me remember WHY I bookmarked something.
September 16, 2008 at 20:34Beth HartesaysI don't think I used Del to it's full potential.
September 16, 2008 at 20:34onepinkteesaysthree guesses what my delicious username is...
September 16, 2008 at 20:31Beth Hartesaysum, OPT, embroidered?!
September 16, 2008 at 20:31ConnieNote works like this: you highlight a key point in the article and then when you click Tag, what you highlighted is copied into Note field.
September 16, 2008 at 20:34Beth Hartesaysum, OPT, embroidered?!
September 16, 2008 at 20:35onepinkteesaysConnie! thank you! I never investigated how people did that
September 16, 2008 at 20:32DebInDenversayskellye and sonny what are your usernames?
September 16, 2008 at 20:32ConnieWe're going fast -- so if I miss a question, please repeat it.
September 16, 2008 at 20:33onepinkteesaysBeth, I'm feeling the same way - like I've just scratched the surface
September 16, 2008 at 20:33ConnieTim, tell me what you mean by conversation mining.
September 16, 2008 at 20:36ConnieFinding out who is talking about the same subject?
September 16, 2008 at 20:36DebInDenversaysdefinitely a surface scratcher here...
September 16, 2008 at 20:34Tim JacksonSo I'm thinking I'll join tonight and then plurk my user name. I want to build more reference spots for ideas & convo's.
September 16, 2008 at 20:34Beth HartesaysI had zero people in my network...adding now
September 16, 2008 at 20:35ConnieIt is good for content for a blog post - use Delicious to find out who else is writing about something & link to them or comment on thr blog
September 16, 2008 at 20:38ConnieYes, Tim, you can use it for that.
September 16, 2008 at 20:39ConnieIt's better than Google for conversation mining in the sense that it shows what USERS (not G's spiders) consider important.
September 16, 2008 at 20:36Kellye_CraneThat's a great tip! Do you always post your blog posts?
September 16, 2008 at 20:40ConnieKelly, I have started tagging my blog posts on Delicious.
September 16, 2008 at 20:40ConnieAnybody know if there is a Wordpress plugin for that? I just do it manually but would be nice to automate.
September 16, 2008 at 20:41Kellye_CraneGood idea! I'm noticing you can search "your network" only, so that would help your peeps find your stuff.
September 16, 2008 at 20:41ConnieTagging my blog posts makes them visible to people searching for the same tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:42onepinkteesaysthis is really inspiring me to use Delicious - I had "lost" my FF extension for a while
September 16, 2008 at 20:42onepinkteesaysthat reminds me - use the Delicious extension is you can!
September 16, 2008 at 20:39Tim JacksonCool- I want to use it for expanding my knowledge of my user base and those who may or may not be friendly to the brand. I also want to tag
September 16, 2008 at 20:42Tim Jacksonmy own posts.
September 16, 2008 at 20:39ConnieThere are a number of other apps that do similar things -- tech ppl seem to prefer Magnolia, but I
September 16, 2008 at 20:39Conniehave invested so much time in Delicious that I am not motivated to switch.
September 16, 2008 at 20:43Beth HartesaysI use the FF add-on Shareaholic for Delicious and others.
September 16, 2008 at 20:44Tim Jacksoneverybody knows how important conversation is to me, so I want to be able to do more, better- with less "effort".
September 16, 2008 at 20:44Beth HartesaysI never thought to bookmark my own posts...thought it might be vain. But from a search perspective, I can see why you'd do it.
September 16, 2008 at 20:44ConnieYou really need to use the bookmarklets -- install them in your browser toolbar. Makes it very, very easy to tag.
September 16, 2008 at 20:45Tim JacksonMy schedule is so chaotic, I need to better organize my efforts.
September 16, 2008 at 20:45ConnieWhen you're reading articles/blog posts you will often notice a small icon at the bottom that you can click to add it to Delicious
September 16, 2008 at 20:45ConnieTim, that's the great thing about Delicious -- it goes wherever you do. If you're blogging from the road, you have access to all your tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:47obsidianspidersaysI just use the delicious Firefox add-on. Works great in "classic" mode for me
September 16, 2008 at 20:47ConnieI just checked my Delicious account and I have 606 different tags. A few need to be cleaned up but that's a lot of topics!
September 16, 2008 at 20:47Tim JacksonYep, Connie... sounds purdy danged handy.
September 16, 2008 at 20:44Beth HartesaysConnie, the tag feature that Del provides is perfect. Tim, you'll love it. One click effort (plus tags, etc.) But it's pretty simple
September 16, 2008 at 20:48ConnieAnd I have bookmarked 1384 articles -- which shows you that I always add more than one tag to an article I bookmark.
September 16, 2008 at 20:48obsidianspidersaysFWIW I have 1088 tags...
September 16, 2008 at 20:45ConnieObsidian, do you have your tags bundled?
September 16, 2008 at 20:48onepinkteesaysI thought I had a lot at 200 tags
September 16, 2008 at 20:46Tim JacksonI'm gonna play around with it tonight. SO I am sure I'll have more questions later. I 'm a little slow... cracked skull and all...
September 16, 2008 at 20:49ConniePinky, it just depends on how/what you use it for
September 16, 2008 at 20:49Beth HartesaysI can't find anyone. Are you all private?
September 16, 2008 at 20:50onepinkteesaysBeth, I'm not - I've found several people here
September 16, 2008 at 20:50Teegloveshow easy it is to tag things. You can also put your tags into categories to help you keep them organized
September 16, 2008 at 20:50ConnieMy user name is conniereece
September 16, 2008 at 20:47AdamSherksharesURL lookup on Delicious - see how many people have bookmarked a particular URL and what tags they used for it
September 16, 2008 at 20:48obsidianspidersaysconnie yes I do, 1045 bundled, 1088 unbundled, 991 things bookmarked
September 16, 2008 at 20:51DebInDenversaysbeth- I added you to my network. I am DebInDenver
September 16, 2008 at 20:51Kellye_CraneI've used it for full-featured bookmarking, but as a result mine are a mess - need to somehow segment mine between biz and personal.
September 16, 2008 at 20:51ConnieKellye, you could use tag bundling for that.
September 16, 2008 at 20:48Kellye_CraneNot that I have anything unseemly
September 16, 2008 at 20:51ConnieBundling is like creating a folder for a group of tags.
September 16, 2008 at 20:49Kellye_CraneAnd then could I mark the personal bundle as private?
September 16, 2008 at 20:52ConnieNot sure you could do that Kellye.
September 16, 2008 at 20:53Kellye_CraneLoved that link, Adam- thanks
September 16, 2008 at 20:50ConnieI think the privacy feature applies to the account as a whole, not just certain tags/bundles.
September 16, 2008 at 20:50DebInDenversaysthanks from me too Adam!
September 16, 2008 at 20:50Beth Hartesaysfound you all. I was not doing it right (little tags, forgot reading glasses...stinks getting old). <<Todd!
September 16, 2008 at 20:50Kellye_CraneOk, thanks Connie.
September 16, 2008 at 20:54Beth HartesaysI like the bundle feature
September 16, 2008 at 20:51Beth Hartesaysbut I need more than 60 bookmarks first.
September 16, 2008 at 20:55Kellye_Cranewhen you post something "for" another user, how does it show up for them? did I read somewhere it's in the inbox?
September 16, 2008 at 20:52ConnieWhen you combine an RSS reader with Delicious -- a great combination for keeping track of things you want to save AND promoting your content
September 16, 2008 at 20:56ConnieKellye, yes it shows up as "new" in the Inbox.
September 16, 2008 at 20:53AdamSherkaskshas anyone imported over a large amount of bookmarks from their browser? I've heard it can be a little messy
September 16, 2008 at 20:56ConnieAdam, I did import some but it was not very many so it worked fine.
September 16, 2008 at 20:57AdamSherkasksif you don't have your browser bookmarks in well labeled folders
September 16, 2008 at 20:54ConnieI've heard the same thing that it can be tricky when you do that.
September 16, 2008 at 20:54AdamSherksaysI've been meaning to do this for a looong time but just haven't done so!
September 16, 2008 at 20:58DebInDenversaysI have a question, when you can get to it. What is the difference in being someone's fan and adding them to your network? I added OPT
September 16, 2008 at 20:55ConnieAdam, what if you created a separate delicious account for the links you import? That way if it had problems, it wouldn't mess your
September 16, 2008 at 20:58Connieoriginal delicious account up.
September 16, 2008 at 20:58Kellye_CraneOne thing about importing is that all those bookmarks are tagged "imported" (in addition to whatever folder name) and are also not shared
September 16, 2008 at 20:58ConnieHowever, then you would need to figure out a way to combine the two accounts.
September 16, 2008 at 20:55DebInDenversaysto my network and see that she is a "fan" listed under "fans" as well as listed under "network"
September 16, 2008 at 20:56Kellye_Craneso you would be the only one to see the mess, Adam
September 16, 2008 at 20:56ConnieI think they are added to your network when they reciprocate by adding you. But I'm not positive about that answer.
September 16, 2008 at 21:00Beth HartesaysConnie, I completely forgot that I had started an account under my name before under THoM. Can I combine the accounts?
September 16, 2008 at 20:57ConnieLooks like my network is everyone I'm following and there is an icon by the name if they are also subscribed to me.
September 16, 2008 at 20:58ConnieBeth, I don't know the answer to that.
September 16, 2008 at 21:01DebInDenversaysOK- I see the mutual fan icon both next to OPT under "network" and under "fan"
September 16, 2008 at 21:01DebInDenversaysbeth, LOL
September 16, 2008 at 21:02AdamSherksaysKellye_Crane can you later share all the imported bookmarks in bulk (if there are no probs) or do you have to share them one at at time?
September 16, 2008 at 21:02Beth HartesaysDeb. I just deleted both accounts. Don't know how that happened. UGH
September 16, 2008 at 21:01Kellye_CraneAdamSherk, I think you do it one at a time, but if you go to the page for the imported tab it's not too hard to go down the list
September 16, 2008 at 21:01ConnieDeb, I just tried to add you and it says no such user.
September 16, 2008 at 21:04Beth Hartesaystime to start over...at least I know what I am doing this time!
September 16, 2008 at 21:05sonnygilllol Beth, thats terrible
September 16, 2008 at 21:05DebInDenversaysfolks, I have to go. I only had an hour for this I am afraid. i will go back through and write the recap tomorrow.
September 16, 2008 at 21:05ConnieAdam, could you tag them all for:adamsherk ... and they would show up in that account?
September 16, 2008 at 21:03ConnieI need to wind down too ... any final questions?
September 16, 2008 at 21:03AdamSherksaysthanks, I think I'll give it a shot this week. I have lots of SEO and social media marketing bookmarks I'd like to move over to delicious
September 16, 2008 at 21:03DebInDenversaysConnie I was able to add you into my network. If DebInDenver didn't work try debrobison.
September 16, 2008 at 21:03sonnygillditto, i will have to catch up with the rest...definitely GREAT info here Connie.
September 19, 2008 at 17:55DebInDenversaysI will do the recap tomorrow afternoon everyone! I apologize for the delay!
September 22, 2008 at 17:51pfandersonsaysSomeone just asked me for tips on how I keep track of (now) over 16K bookmarks. Replies here: www.plurk.com/p/4d393