Connie Sep 17, 2008 12:59AM www.plurk.com/p/42esr is the link if you want to forward it to your plurk friends
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:04AM howdy! I just have to get my soup. Connie do you want to do the re-cap or have me do it?
onepinktee Sep 17, 2008 01:05AM I was cleaning up my Delicious links this weekend in anticipation of this
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:05AM I would appreciate someone else doing the recap. I'm swamped. Teaching a workshop tomorrow and ... well ... haven't finished my preso.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:06AM Tara, would come clean up my Delicious links? LOL I need to spend some time bundling some tags.
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:06AM OK, I will write it, unless we have someone just DYING to write a recap
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:06AM Let's see, we've got Sonny and TIM (sorry for shouting) and Beth and Deb and Tara and Teeg.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:04AM Teeg, I don't know if the fixed the RSS issues because I do not use their RSS feed.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:04AM How do you use the RSS feed, Teeg - to subscribe to a content tag or to follow another user's tags?
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:05AM I'd volunteer to recap, but I have TWO client data reports to finish by Friday
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:05AM Does everyone understand the concept of tagging, or do we need to spend a minute or two on that?
Te-ge says Sep 17, 2008 01:05AM Actually, I have a problem with their RSS anytime I add someone else's pages to my Del page
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:09AM you know, I would like to know how to tag multiple words so they don't come out two separate words- like social media- do I need to put in
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:09AM I'm so backwards, I have never used delicious ever... AND I don't even have an RSS feed.
Te-ge says Sep 17, 2008 01:09AM it adds that page to my RSS list like I'd written whatever it is, and shares that link anywhere that tracks RSS feeds
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:07AM okay, I'm going to take a minute to explain tags and then I'll get to Deb's question about compound tags
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:07AM Think back to the olden days when we all worked in offices and handled a lot of paper ... somebody had to file it.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:07AM And once upon a time it was me. I hated it, btw. Still do. But that's another story.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:11AM Anyway, when you are filing paper, you can only put it in one folder. So you have to be very specific about the label you put on it --
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:11AM because you are later going to have to remember that one label if you want to retrieve it.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:08AM You could cross-reference it, but that mean you had to make a physical copy of the paper and then put it in a second file folder.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:12AM With electronic documents, you don't have those physical limitations; you can "file" that document in as many folders as you want to --
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:10AM Gmail is a great example of this. You can put more than one label on an email and that is their equivalent of an Outlook folder.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:13AM That means you can click on any one of the labels a document is stored under and easily retrieve it.
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:14AM I am clear *waiting with baited breath to learn about compound tags*
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:15AM Delicious is another way of tagging electronic documents -- blog posts, articles and other content.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:13AM Delicious is also called social bookmarking -- it's a way you can bookmark a site/page to find it later, and you can also share it w/
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:17AM The bookmarklets -- little tools that you copy to your toolbar -- make it very easy to tag / describe / share the content without ever
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:18AM As a writer, I love delicious for research. For one thing, it's a way for me to retrieve stuff I've marked as important.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:15AM More than that, I can go find out what YOU have been bookmarking. You might have found info I didn't find in my initial research.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:15AM So I describe Delicious as a way to get the smartest people in the world to do your research -- for free.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM many other uses for it, but as a writer that is what first attracted me to Delicious.
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM yeah, I love to go looking for tags and who's tagged what - and to see what OTHER tags they're using
sonnygill Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM i'm definitely going to have to try that. do you search from all users or specific ppl, etc?
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM I should have been trolling that for my Emily Dickinson project today!
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:17AM I want to find social networks where people discuss Emily Dickinson (really this is for a blog post)
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:17AM For example, if I am writing about PR, I'm going to go to Delicious and find out what Brian Solis has bookmarked.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:20AM Now, I have to know his user name -- but most of us social media types are predictable and use the same user names over & over.
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:18AM I love it for research, too. Are you going to talk about how to use the "My Network" function? I'm unfamiliar with that.
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:21AM and for gift shopping - if I see something someone might like, I'll tag it accordingly
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:21AM so when a gift-giving occasion rolls around, I have a list of ideas and right where to buy them
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM sometimes I tag with names - but only for people who I know won't see
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:22AM I just deleted some tags for a person I don't plan on buying any more gifts for
Te-ge Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM used to love looking at the new pages when I was trying to find new items for StumbleUpon
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:19AM You can also SEND something to another user on Delicious. In fact, I pitched my blog to Steve Rubel that way.
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:23AM yeah- you'd have to use code names for family members who also use delicious!
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:23AM for trip planning, I use it to gather ideas - hotels I'm considering, restaurant reviews, transportation
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:23AM So if you want to send me a blog post you're particularly proud of, or an article you think I would enjoy, you would tag it for:conniereece
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 01:20AM I'd like to know how it's used for social networking...I just use it to bookmark my stuff
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:21AM actually, I like that kind of pitch idea better than microblogging.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:21AM And you can use it very creatively. Steve didn't want a lot of emails but he wanted to discover new blogs ...
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:22AM so he told us how to send a post to him via Delicious, and sure enough I got on his "new voices" list, which senet a lot of traffic my way
AdamSherk Sep 17, 2008 01:25AM says before tagging your own content it's good to check what popular tags might be a good fit
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:23AM Someone asked earlier about compound phrases -- Pinky uses one word, i.e. socialmedia. I do too.
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:23AM The "for" function sounds really cool. How does it show up for the recipient?
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:28AM I just realized that I have "0" people in my network, so I am on here looking for you all while we talk.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:28AM Tim, first thing you would do is to search Delicious for the name Masi and then Masiguy.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:25AM And of course that's going to be a person who is into cycling, so probably someone you want to add to your network.
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:26AM Deb makes me think of another question! Connie: do you have separate accounts for personal/work stuff?
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:29AM I only use Delicious for work stuff, so no. But I would recommend different accounts if needed. Or ....
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:30AM If I bookmark something I don't want anyone else to see, you can tag it for your username only, to make it private.
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:31AM Connie- is it effective fro "conversation mining", as I like to call it?
obsidianspider is Sep 17, 2008 01:31AM Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
obsidianspider is Sep 17, 2008 01:31AM Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:29AM You can't mark it for a group, but you could mark it for more than one person.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:33AM Actually, they've been doing some recent updates and I haven't checked out all the new features. Being able to share resources w/ a
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 01:33AM all, obsidianspider is a friend of mine. This is his 1st Plurkshop.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:31AM I take time to use the Note feature now because it helps me remember WHY I bookmarked something.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:31AM Note works like this: you highlight a key point in the article and then when you click Tag, what you highlighted is copied into Note field.
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:33AM Beth, I'm feeling the same way - like I've just scratched the surface
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:34AM So I'm thinking I'll join tonight and then plurk my user name. I want to build more reference spots for ideas & convo's.
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:37AM Connie- Yes- finding out where the conversations about the brand are happening, so I can listen and join in.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:35AM It is good for content for a blog post - use Delicious to find out who else is writing about something & link to them or comment on thr blog
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:39AM It's better than Google for conversation mining in the sense that it shows what USERS (not G's spiders) consider important.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:40AM Anybody know if there is a Wordpress plugin for that? I just do it manually but would be nice to automate.
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:41AM Good idea! I'm noticing you can search "your network" only, so that would help your peeps find your stuff.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:41AM Tagging my blog posts makes them visible to people searching for the same tags.
onepinktee says Sep 17, 2008 01:42AM this is really inspiring me to use Delicious - I had "lost" my FF extension for a while
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:39AM Cool- I want to use it for expanding my knowledge of my user base and those who may or may not be friendly to the brand. I also want to tag
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:39AM There are a number of other apps that do similar things -- tech ppl seem to prefer Magnolia, but I
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:39AM have invested so much time in Delicious that I am not motivated to switch.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:40AM That's because I use Delicious as a research tool, not just social bookmarking.
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:44AM everybody knows how important conversation is to me, so I want to be able to do more, better- with less "effort".
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 01:44AM I never thought to bookmark my own posts...thought it might be vain. But from a search perspective, I can see why you'd do it.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:44AM You really need to use the bookmarklets -- install them in your browser toolbar. Makes it very, very easy to tag.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:45AM When you're reading articles/blog posts you will often notice a small icon at the bottom that you can click to add it to Delicious
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:45AM Tim, that's the great thing about Delicious -- it goes wherever you do. If you're blogging from the road, you have access to all your tags.
obsidianspider says Sep 17, 2008 01:47AM I just use the delicious Firefox add-on. Works great in "classic" mode for me
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:47AM I just checked my Delicious account and I have 606 different tags. A few need to be cleaned up but that's a lot of topics!
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 01:44AM Connie, the tag feature that Del provides is perfect. Tim, you'll love it. One click effort (plus tags, etc.) But it's pretty simple
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:48AM And I have bookmarked 1384 articles -- which shows you that I always add more than one tag to an article I bookmark.
Tim Jackson Sep 17, 2008 01:46AM I'm gonna play around with it tonight. SO I am sure I'll have more questions later. I 'm a little slow... cracked skull and all...
Te-ge loves Sep 17, 2008 01:50AM how easy it is to tag things. You can also put your tags into categories to help you keep them organized
AdamSherk shares Sep 17, 2008 01:47AM URL lookup on Delicious - see how many people have bookmarked a particular URL and what tags they used for it
obsidianspider says Sep 17, 2008 01:48AM connie yes I do, 1045 bundled, 1088 unbundled, 991 things bookmarked
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:51AM I've used it for full-featured bookmarking, but as a result mine are a mess - need to somehow segment mine between biz and personal.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:50AM I think the privacy feature applies to the account as a whole, not just certain tags/bundles.
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 01:50AM found you all. I was not doing it right (little tags, forgot reading glasses...stinks getting old). <<Todd!
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:55AM when you post something "for" another user, how does it show up for them? did I read somewhere it's in the inbox?
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:52AM When you combine an RSS reader with Delicious -- a great combination for keeping track of things you want to save AND promoting your content
AdamSherk asks Sep 17, 2008 01:53AM has anyone imported over a large amount of bookmarks from their browser? I've heard it can be a little messy
AdamSherk says Sep 17, 2008 01:54AM I've been meaning to do this for a looong time but just haven't done so!
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:58AM I have a question, when you can get to it. What is the difference in being someone's fan and adding them to your network? I added OPT
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:55AM Adam, what if you created a separate delicious account for the links you import? That way if it had problems, it wouldn't mess your
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 01:58AM One thing about importing is that all those bookmarks are tagged "imported" (in addition to whatever folder name) and are also not shared
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:58AM However, then you would need to figure out a way to combine the two accounts.
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 01:55AM to my network and see that she is a "fan" listed under "fans" as well as listed under "network"
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:56AM I think they are added to your network when they reciprocate by adding you. But I'm not positive about that answer.
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 02:00AM Connie, I completely forgot that I had started an account under my name before under THoM. Can I combine the accounts?
Connie Sep 17, 2008 01:57AM Looks like my network is everyone I'm following and there is an icon by the name if they are also subscribed to me.
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 02:01AM OK- I see the mutual fan icon both next to OPT under "network" and under "fan"
AdamSherk says Sep 17, 2008 02:02AM Kellye_Crane can you later share all the imported bookmarks in bulk (if there are no probs) or do you have to share them one at at time?
Beth Harte says Sep 17, 2008 02:02AM Deb. I just deleted both accounts. Don't know how that happened. UGH
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 02:01AM AdamSherk, I think you do it one at a time, but if you go to the page for the imported tab it's not too hard to go down the list
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 02:05AM folks, I have to go. I only had an hour for this I am afraid. i will go back through and write the recap tomorrow.
Connie Sep 17, 2008 02:05AM Adam, could you tag them all for:adamsherk ... and they would show up in that account?
AdamSherk says Sep 17, 2008 02:03AM thanks, I think I'll give it a shot this week. I have lots of SEO and social media marketing bookmarks I'd like to move over to delicious
DebInAustin says Sep 17, 2008 02:03AM Connie I was able to add you into my network. If DebInDenver didn't work try debrobison.
sonnygill Sep 17, 2008 02:03AM ditto, i will have to catch up with the rest...definitely GREAT info here Connie.
Kellye_Crane Sep 17, 2008 02:04AM I'm kcrane for now, but as I say it's a mess. I'll let you know when it's updated.
obsidianspider says Sep 17, 2008 02:07AM bethharte at least it was only 60 bookmarks, not a few hundred
pfanderson says Sep 17, 2008 05:14PM AARGHHH I forgot about this! I am delicious addict w/ 15K links.
DebInAustin says Sep 18, 2008 02:22AM I still have to write the recap- sorry all! I will plurk the link when I do!
DebInAustin says Sep 18, 2008 01:05PM pfanderson if you have anything you'd like to add, I would be happy to put it as a note in the recap.
BarbaraKB is Sep 18, 2008 03:45PM *sigh* yet another thing I missed when the lights when out in Cincy.
pfanderson says Sep 19, 2008 10:51PM Pondering, pondering - Here is a terse but meaty footnote www.slideshare.net/umhealthscienceslibraries/social-bookmarking-delicious-a-personal-and-professional-productivity-tool
DebInAustin says Sep 19, 2008 10:55PM I will do the recap tomorrow afternoon everyone! I apologize for the delay!
pfanderson says Sep 22, 2008 10:51PM Someone just asked me for tips on how I keep track of (now) over 16K bookmarks. Replies here: www.plurk.com/p/4d393
www.slideshare.net/umhealthscienceslibraries/social-bookmarking-delicious-a-personal-and-professional-productivity-tool