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  • DebInAustin says
    howdy! I just have to get my soup. Connie do you want to do the re-cap or have me do it?
  • Tim Jackson
    Am I in the right place? My brain is SO cooked.
  • onepinktee
    I was cleaning up my Delicious links this weekend in anticipation of this :-)
  • sonnygill
    i dont even wanna know how my links are looking :-D
  • Connie
    I would appreciate someone else doing the recap. I'm swamped. Teaching a workshop tomorrow and ... well ... haven't finished my preso. :-)
  • Connie
    Tara, would come clean up my Delicious links? LOL I need to spend some time bundling some tags.
  • Te-ge says
    Hi everyone :-)
  • Te-ge wonders
    if Del fixed their RSS issues
  • DebInAustin says
    OK, I will write it, unless we have someone just DYING to write a recap :-)
  • Connie
    Let's see, we've got Sonny and TIM (sorry for shouting) and Beth and Deb and Tara and Teeg.
  • DebInAustin says
    I opened up delicious in anticipation of this plurkshop...
  • Connie
    Teeg, I don't know if the fixed the RSS issues because I do not use their RSS feed.
  • DebInAustin says
    nethead replurked it, so he may be lurking here somewhere...
  • Tim Jackson
    Yes... I'm here for a change. I feel like such a hobo...
  • Connie
    How do you use the RSS feed, Teeg - to subscribe to a content tag or to follow another user's tags?
  • onepinktee says
    I'd volunteer to recap, but I have TWO client data reports to finish by Friday :-(
  • Connie
    Actually, that's getting ahead of myself but I'm curious about that.
  • onepinktee says
    that's the reason I had to dash back to the office....
  • Connie
    Does everyone understand the concept of tagging, or do we need to spend a minute or two on that?
  • Te-ge says
    Actually, I have a problem with their RSS anytime I add someone else's pages to my Del page
  • DebInAustin says
    you know, I would like to know how to tag multiple words so they don't come out two separate words- like social media- do I need to put in
  • Tim Jackson
    I'm so backwards, I have never used delicious ever... AND I don't even have an RSS feed.
  • Te-ge says
    it adds that page to my RSS list like I'd written whatever it is, and shares that link anywhere that tracks RSS feeds
  • Connie
    okay, I'm going to take a minute to explain tags and then I'll get to Deb's question about compound tags
  • DebInAustin says
    so Tim you are here to do color commentary?
  • sonnygill
    yes u can go over tagging i think
  • Kellye_Crane says
    I'm here too (a bit late)
  • Connie
    Think back to the olden days when we all worked in offices and handled a lot of paper ... somebody had to file it.
  • Connie
    And once upon a time it was me. I hated it, btw. Still do. But that's another story. :-)
  • Connie
    Anyway, when you are filing paper, you can only put it in one folder. So you have to be very specific about the label you put on it --
  • Tim Jackson
    DiD- I've color... to spare.
  • Connie
    because you are later going to have to remember that one label if you want to retrieve it.
  • Connie
    You could cross-reference it, but that mean you had to make a physical copy of the paper and then put it in a second file folder.
  • Connie
    So not a lot of cross-referencing got done.
  • Connie
    With electronic documents, you don't have those physical limitations; you can "file" that document in as many folders as you want to --
  • Connie
    and that is by using tags.
  • Connie
    Gmail is a great example of this. You can put more than one label on an email and that is their equivalent of an Outlook folder.
  • Connie
    That means you can click on any one of the labels a document is stored under and easily retrieve it.
  • Connie
    Everybody clear so far, or do we have questions?
  • Connie
    Don't everybody speak at once. :-)
  • onepinktee says
    great explanation, Connie
  • DebInAustin says
    I am clear *waiting with baited breath to learn about compound tags*
  • Connie
    LOL Breathe, Deb. Tim, you may need to stay after class .....
  • onepinktee says
    I always put them together as one word, so socialmedia
  • Connie
    Delicious is another way of tagging electronic documents -- blog posts, articles and other content.
  • Te-ge
    LOL and Great explanation Connie :-)
  • Connie
    Delicious is also called social bookmarking -- it's a way you can bookmark a site/page to find it later, and you can also share it w/
  • Connie
    other users.
  • Connie
    The bookmarklets -- little tools that you copy to your toolbar -- make it very easy to tag / describe / share the content without ever
  • sonnygill
    good explanation.
  • Connie
    leaving the page you're on.
  • Connie
    As a writer, I love delicious for research. For one thing, it's a way for me to retrieve stuff I've marked as important.
  • Connie
    More than that, I can go find out what YOU have been bookmarking. You might have found info I didn't find in my initial research.
  • Connie
    So I describe Delicious as a way to get the smartest people in the world to do your research -- for free.
  • sonnygill
    interesting - never thought of it to use for research.
  • Connie
    that's my number 1 use for it, Sonny.
  • Connie
    many other uses for it, but as a writer that is what first attracted me to Delicious.
  • onepinktee says
    yeah, I love to go looking for tags and who's tagged what - and to see what OTHER tags they're using
  • Connie
    Let's talk about some other uses for it .... Class? Anyone? Bueller?
  • sonnygill
    i'm definitely going to have to try that. do you search from all users or specific ppl, etc?
  • DebInAustin says
    I should have been trolling that for my Emily Dickinson project today!
  • Connie
    Sonny, I do both.
  • DebInAustin says
    I want to find social networks where people discuss Emily Dickinson (really this is for a blog post)
  • Tim Jackson
    Ok, so I'm convinced- I'll join.
  • Connie
    For example, if I am writing about PR, I'm going to go to Delicious and find out what Brian Solis has bookmarked.
  • Connie
    Now, I have to know his user name -- but most of us social media types are predictable and use the same user names over & over.
  • onepinktee says
    I've used it a lot for trip planning
  • Kellye_Crane
    I love it for research, too. Are you going to talk about how to use the "My Network" function? I'm unfamiliar with that.
  • Connie
    How do you use it for trip planning, Pinky?
  • onepinktee says
    and for gift shopping - if I see something someone might like, I'll tag it accordingly
  • Connie
    Do you tag it with their name?
  • onepinktee says
    so when a gift-giving occasion rolls around, I have a list of ideas and right where to buy them :-)
  • Connie
    That is a great idea!
  • onepinktee says
    sometimes I tag with names - but only for people who I know won't see
  • Connie
    Delicious becomes your shopping list.
  • onepinktee says
    I just deleted some tags for a person I don't plan on buying any more gifts for ;-)
  • Te-ge
    used to love looking at the new pages when I was trying to find new items for StumbleUpon
  • Connie
    You can also SEND something to another user on Delicious. In fact, I pitched my blog to Steve Rubel that way.
  • DebInAustin says
    yeah- you'd have to use code names for family members who also use delicious!
  • Tim Jackson
    So if I want to find tags related to Masi, what do I do?
  • onepinktee says
    for trip planning, I use it to gather ideas - hotels I'm considering, restaurant reviews, transportation
  • Connie
    So if you want to send me a blog post you're particularly proud of, or an article you think I would enjoy, you would tag it for:conniereece
  • Beth Harte says
    I'd like to know how it's used for social networking...I just use it to bookmark my stuff
  • onepinktee says
    I had a lot of tags for our London/Paris trip, for instance
  • Connie
    Deb, he asked to be pitched that way!
  • DebInAustin says
    I meant that in a creative way!
  • DebInAustin says
    actually, I like that kind of pitch idea better than microblogging.
  • Tim Jackson
    OPT- I KNEW I made you mad... :-(
  • Connie
    And you can use it very creatively. Steve didn't want a lot of emails but he wanted to discover new blogs ...
  • Connie
    so he told us how to send a post to him via Delicious, and sure enough I got on his "new voices" list, which senet a lot of traffic my way
  • AdamSherk
    says before tagging your own content it's good to check what popular tags might be a good fit
  • Connie
    Yes, Adam, and you can subscribe to tags.
  • AdamSherk
    says this can help get your pages in front of more people
  • Connie
    Someone asked earlier about compound phrases -- Pinky uses one word, i.e. socialmedia. I do too.
  • Connie
    Others use a + sign, social+media.
  • Kellye_Crane
    The "for" function sounds really cool. How does it show up for the recipient?
  • Connie
    There has to be a connector; can't have spaces in a tag.
  • Connie
    And as a Mac person, I boycott the underscore in user names and tags. :-)
  • Connie
    Squirreling back to see what questions I missed. :-)
  • DebInAustin says
    I just realized that I have "0" people in my network, so I am on here looking for you all while we talk.
  • Connie
    Tim, first thing you would do is to search Delicious for the name Masi and then Masiguy.
  • Connie
    And of course that's going to be a person who is into cycling, so probably someone you want to add to your network.
  • Connie
    And they just might be someone you want to blog about or link to.
  • Kellye_Crane
    Deb makes me think of another question! Connie: do you have separate accounts for personal/work stuff?
  • Connie
    I only use Delicious for work stuff, so no. But I would recommend different accounts if needed. Or ....
  • Connie
    If I bookmark something I don't want anyone else to see, you can tag it for your username only, to make it private.
  • Tim Jackson
    Connie- is it effective fro "conversation mining", as I like to call it?
  • Connie
    Do you know about the Note field when you tag something in Delicious?
  • onepinktee says
    yeah, I make use of private a lot
  • obsidianspider is
    Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
  • obsidianspider is
    Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
  • onepinktee says
    interestingly, that's a lot of what I cleaned out this week
  • Connie
    You can't mark it for a group, but you could mark it for more than one person.
  • Te-ge
    Deb, I'm Teeg on there :-)
  • Connie
    Actually, they've been doing some recent updates and I haven't checked out all the new features. Being able to share resources w/ a
  • Connie
    group would be awesome.
  • sonnygill
    its amazing how much u really can do with it. had no idea
  • Connie
    I take time to use the Note feature now because it helps me remember WHY I bookmarked something.
  • Beth Harte says
    I don't think I used Del to it's full potential.
  • onepinktee says
    three guesses what my delicious username is...
  • Beth Harte says
    um, OPT, embroidered?!
  • Connie
    Note works like this: you highlight a key point in the article and then when you click Tag, what you highlighted is copied into Note field.
  • Beth Harte says
    um, OPT, embroidered?!
  • onepinktee says
    Connie! thank you! I never investigated how people did that :-)
  • DebInAustin says
    kellye and sonny what are your usernames?
  • Connie
    We're going fast -- so if I miss a question, please repeat it.
  • onepinktee says
    Beth, I'm feeling the same way - like I've just scratched the surface
  • Connie
    Tim, tell me what you mean by conversation mining.
  • Connie
    Finding out who is talking about the same subject?
  • DebInAustin says
    definitely a surface scratcher here...
  • Tim Jackson
    So I'm thinking I'll join tonight and then plurk my user name. I want to build more reference spots for ideas & convo's.
  • Beth Harte says
    I had zero people in my network...adding now
  • Tim Jackson
    Connie- Yes- finding out where the conversations about the brand are happening, so I can listen and join in.
  • Connie
    It is good for content for a blog post - use Delicious to find out who else is writing about something & link to them or comment on thr blog
  • Connie
    Yes, Tim, you can use it for that.
  • Connie
    It's better than Google for conversation mining in the sense that it shows what USERS (not G's spiders) consider important.
  • Kellye_Crane
    That's a great tip! Do you always post your blog posts?
  • Connie
    Kelly, I have started tagging my blog posts on Delicious.
  • Connie
    Anybody know if there is a Wordpress plugin for that? I just do it manually but would be nice to automate.
  • Kellye_Crane
    Good idea! I'm noticing you can search "your network" only, so that would help your peeps find your stuff.
  • Connie
    Tagging my blog posts makes them visible to people searching for the same tags.
  • onepinktee says
    this is really inspiring me to use Delicious - I had "lost" my FF extension for a while
  • onepinktee says
    that reminds me - use the Delicious extension is you can!
  • Tim Jackson
    Cool- I want to use it for expanding my knowledge of my user base and those who may or may not be friendly to the brand. I also want to tag
  • Connie
    There are a number of other apps that do similar things -- tech ppl seem to prefer Magnolia, but I
  • Connie
    have invested so much time in Delicious that I am not motivated to switch.
  • Connie
    Excellent, Tim.
  • Connie
    That's because I use Delicious as a research tool, not just social bookmarking.
  • Beth Harte says
    I use the FF add-on Shareaholic for Delicious and others.
  • Tim Jackson
    everybody knows how important conversation is to me, so I want to be able to do more, better- with less "effort".
  • Beth Harte says
    I never thought to bookmark my own posts...thought it might be vain. But from a search perspective, I can see why you'd do it.
  • Connie
    You really need to use the bookmarklets -- install them in your browser toolbar. Makes it very, very easy to tag.
  • Tim Jackson
    My schedule is so chaotic, I need to better organize my efforts.
  • Connie
    When you're reading articles/blog posts you will often notice a small icon at the bottom that you can click to add it to Delicious
  • Connie
    Tim, that's the great thing about Delicious -- it goes wherever you do. If you're blogging from the road, you have access to all your tags.
  • obsidianspider says
    I just use the delicious Firefox add-on. Works great in "classic" mode for me
  • Connie
    I just checked my Delicious account and I have 606 different tags. A few need to be cleaned up but that's a lot of topics!
  • Tim Jackson
    Yep, Connie... sounds purdy danged handy.
  • Beth Harte says
    Connie, the tag feature that Del provides is perfect. Tim, you'll love it. One click effort (plus tags, etc.) But it's pretty simple
  • Connie
    And I have bookmarked 1384 articles -- which shows you that I always add more than one tag to an article I bookmark.
  • Connie
    Obsidian, do you have your tags bundled?
  • onepinktee says
    I thought I had a lot at 200 tags :-)
  • Tim Jackson
    I'm gonna play around with it tonight. SO I am sure I'll have more questions later. I 'm a little slow... cracked skull and all...
  • Connie
    Pinky, it just depends on how/what you use it for
  • Beth Harte says
    I can't find anyone. Are you all private?
  • onepinktee says
    Beth, I'm not - I've found several people here
  • Te-ge loves
    how easy it is to tag things. You can also put your tags into categories to help you keep them organized
  • Connie
    My user name is conniereece
  • Connie
    great tip, Adam.
  • obsidianspider says
    connie yes I do, 1045 bundled, 1088 unbundled, 991 things bookmarked
  • DebInAustin says
    beth- I added you to my network. I am DebInDenver
  • Kellye_Crane
    I've used it for full-featured bookmarking, but as a result mine are a mess - need to somehow segment mine between biz and personal.
  • Connie
    Kellye, you could use tag bundling for that.
  • Kellye_Crane
    Not that I have anything unseemly :-)
  • Connie
    Bundling is like creating a folder for a group of tags.
  • Kellye_Crane
    And then could I mark the personal bundle as private?
  • Connie
    Not sure you could do that Kellye.
  • Kellye_Crane
    Loved that link, Adam- thanks
  • Connie
    I think the privacy feature applies to the account as a whole, not just certain tags/bundles.
  • DebInAustin says
    thanks from me too Adam!
  • Beth Harte says
    found you all. I was not doing it right (little tags, forgot reading glasses...stinks getting old). <<Todd! ;-)
  • Beth Harte says
    I like the bundle feature
  • Beth Harte says
    but I need more than 60 bookmarks first.
  • Kellye_Crane
    when you post something "for" another user, how does it show up for them? did I read somewhere it's in the inbox?
  • Connie
    When you combine an RSS reader with Delicious -- a great combination for keeping track of things you want to save AND promoting your content
  • Connie
    Kellye, yes it shows up as "new" in the Inbox.
  • AdamSherk asks
    has anyone imported over a large amount of bookmarks from their browser? I've heard it can be a little messy
  • Connie
    Adam, I did import some but it was not very many so it worked fine.
  • AdamSherk asks
    if you don't have your browser bookmarks in well labeled folders
  • Connie
    I've heard the same thing that it can be tricky when you do that.
  • AdamSherk says
    I've been meaning to do this for a looong time but just haven't done so!
  • DebInAustin says
    I have a question, when you can get to it. What is the difference in being someone's fan and adding them to your network? I added OPT
  • Connie
    Adam, what if you created a separate delicious account for the links you import? That way if it had problems, it wouldn't mess your
  • Connie
    original delicious account up.
  • Kellye_Crane
    One thing about importing is that all those bookmarks are tagged "imported" (in addition to whatever folder name) and are also not shared
  • Connie
    However, then you would need to figure out a way to combine the two accounts.
  • DebInAustin says
    to my network and see that she is a "fan" listed under "fans" as well as listed under "network"
  • Kellye_Crane
    so you would be the only one to see the mess, Adam ;-)
  • Connie
    I think they are added to your network when they reciprocate by adding you. But I'm not positive about that answer.
  • Connie
    Nope, I'm wrong.
  • Beth Harte says
    Connie, I completely forgot that I had started an account under my name before under THoM. Can I combine the accounts?
  • Connie
    Looks like my network is everyone I'm following and there is an icon by the name if they are also subscribed to me.
  • Connie
    Beth, I don't know the answer to that.
  • DebInAustin says
    OK- I see the mutual fan icon both next to OPT under "network" and under "fan"
  • AdamSherk says
    Kellye_Crane can you later share all the imported bookmarks in bulk (if there are no probs) or do you have to share them one at at time?
  • Beth Harte says
    Deb. I just deleted both accounts. Don't know how that happened. UGH
  • Kellye_Crane
    AdamSherk, I think you do it one at a time, but if you go to the page for the imported tab it's not too hard to go down the list
  • Connie
    Deb, I just tried to add you and it says no such user.
  • Beth Harte says
    time to start over...at least I know what I am doing this time! (s_LOL)
  • sonnygill
    lol Beth, thats terrible
  • DebInAustin says
    folks, I have to go. I only had an hour for this I am afraid. i will go back through and write the recap tomorrow.
  • Connie
    Adam, could you tag them all for:adamsherk ... and they would show up in that account?
  • Connie
    I need to wind down too ... any final questions?
  • AdamSherk says
    thanks, I think I'll give it a shot this week. I have lots of SEO and social media marketing bookmarks I'd like to move over to delicious
  • DebInAustin says
    Connie I was able to add you into my network. If DebInDenver didn't work try debrobison.
  • sonnygill
    ditto, i will have to catch up with the rest...definitely GREAT info here Connie.
  • Connie
    That worked, Deb.
  • onepinktee says
    GREAT job Connie, you are a rockin hostess :-)
  • Connie
    Adam, thanks for participating.
  • Kellye_Crane
    I'm kcrane for now, but as I say it's a mess. I'll let you know when it's updated.
  • AdamSherk says
    thanks for the Plurkshop Connie!
  • Beth Harte says
    this is great, thanks Connie and all!
  • Kellye_Crane
    Awesome info, Connie. Many thanks!
  • Connie
    Thank you all for listening and participating.
  • Kellye_Crane
    I'm bookmarking this Plurk on Delicious!! :-D
  • Tim Jackson
    Thanks all- as usual, I learned a lot.
  • Tim Jackson
    Just created account. I'm tvjackson.
  • Te-ge says
    Thanks Connie! :-)
  • RaaVi says
    bookmark them all sites plurklink :-)
  • pfanderson says
    AARGHHH I forgot about this! I am delicious addict w/ 15K links. (g_doh)
  • NetHead says
    this was great; learned alot
  • DebInAustin says
    I still have to write the recap- sorry all! I will plurk the link when I do!
  • DebInAustin says
    pfanderson if you have anything you'd like to add, I would be happy to put it as a note in the recap.
  • BarbaraKB is
    *sigh* yet another thing I missed when the lights when out in Cincy. (s_tears)
  • DebInAustin says
    I will do the recap tomorrow afternoon everyone! I apologize for the delay!

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