| Connie | www.plurk.com/p/42esr is the link if you want to forward it to your plurk friends |
| sonnygill | hey connie |
| onepinktee | yo Connie! |
| Tim Jackson | Hi! |
| DebInAustin | says | howdy! I just have to get my soup. Connie do you want to do the re-cap or have me do it? |
| Beth Harte | says | hi there! |
| Tim Jackson | Am I in the right place? My brain is SO cooked. |
| onepinktee | I was cleaning up my Delicious links this weekend in anticipation of this |
| sonnygill | i dont even wanna know how my links are looking |
| Connie | I would appreciate someone else doing the recap. I'm swamped. Teaching a workshop tomorrow and ... well ... haven't finished my preso. |
| Connie | Tara, would come clean up my Delicious links? LOL I need to spend some time bundling some tags. |
| Teeg | says | Hi everyone |
| Teeg | wonders | if Del fixed their RSS issues |
| DebInAustin | says | OK, I will write it, unless we have someone just DYING to write a recap |
| Connie | Let's see, we've got Sonny and TIM (sorry for shouting) and Beth and Deb and Tara and Teeg. |
| DebInAustin | says | I opened up delicious in anticipation of this plurkshop... |
| Connie | Teeg, I don't know if the fixed the RSS issues because I do not use their RSS feed. |
| DebInAustin | says | nethead replurked it, so he may be lurking here somewhere... |
| Tim Jackson | Yes... I'm here for a change. I feel like such a hobo... |
| Connie | How do you use the RSS feed, Teeg - to subscribe to a content tag or to follow another user's tags? |
| onepinktee | says | I'd volunteer to recap, but I have TWO client data reports to finish by Friday |
| Connie | Actually, that's getting ahead of myself but I'm curious about that. |
| onepinktee | says | that's the reason I had to dash back to the office.... |
| Connie | Does everyone understand the concept of tagging, or do we need to spend a minute or two on that? |
| Teeg | says | Actually, I have a problem with their RSS anytime I add someone else's pages to my Del page |
| DebInAustin | says | you know, I would like to know how to tag multiple words so they don't come out two separate words- like social media- do I need to put in |
| DebInAustin | says | quotes? |
| Tim Jackson | I'm so backwards, I have never used delicious ever... AND I don't even have an RSS feed. |
| Teeg | says | it adds that page to my RSS list like I'd written whatever it is, and shares that link anywhere that tracks RSS feeds |
| Connie | okay, I'm going to take a minute to explain tags and then I'll get to Deb's question about compound tags |
| DebInAustin | says | so Tim you are here to do color commentary? |
| sonnygill | yes u can go over tagging i think |
| Kellye_Crane | says | I'm here too (a bit late) |
| Connie | Think back to the olden days when we all worked in offices and handled a lot of paper ... somebody had to file it. |
| Connie | And once upon a time it was me. I hated it, btw. Still do. But that's another story. |
| Connie | Anyway, when you are filing paper, you can only put it in one folder. So you have to be very specific about the label you put on it -- |
| Tim Jackson | DiD- I've color... to spare. |
| Connie | because you are later going to have to remember that one label if you want to retrieve it. |
| Connie | You could cross-reference it, but that mean you had to make a physical copy of the paper and then put it in a second file folder. |
| Connie | So not a lot of cross-referencing got done. |
| Connie | With electronic documents, you don't have those physical limitations; you can "file" that document in as many folders as you want to -- |
| Connie | and that is by using tags. |
| Connie | Gmail is a great example of this. You can put more than one label on an email and that is their equivalent of an Outlook folder. |
| Connie | That means you can click on any one of the labels a document is stored under and easily retrieve it. |
| Connie | Everybody clear so far, or do we have questions? |
| Connie | Don't everybody speak at once. |
| onepinktee | says | great explanation, Connie |
| Tim Jackson | What's a file... |
| DebInAustin | says | I am clear *waiting with baited breath to learn about compound tags* |
| Connie | LOL Breathe, Deb. Tim, you may need to stay after class ..... |
| onepinktee | says | I always put them together as one word, so socialmedia |
| Connie | Delicious is another way of tagging electronic documents -- blog posts, articles and other content. |
| Tim Jackson |
| Teeg | LOL and Great explanation Connie |
| Connie | Delicious is also called social bookmarking -- it's a way you can bookmark a site/page to find it later, and you can also share it w/ |
| Connie | other users. |
| Connie | The bookmarklets -- little tools that you copy to your toolbar -- make it very easy to tag / describe / share the content without ever |
| sonnygill | good explanation. |
| Connie | leaving the page you're on. |
| Connie | As a writer, I love delicious for research. For one thing, it's a way for me to retrieve stuff I've marked as important. |
| Connie | More than that, I can go find out what YOU have been bookmarking. You might have found info I didn't find in my initial research. |
| Connie | So I describe Delicious as a way to get the smartest people in the world to do your research -- for free. |
| sonnygill | interesting - never thought of it to use for research. |
| Connie | that's my number 1 use for it, Sonny. |
| Connie | many other uses for it, but as a writer that is what first attracted me to Delicious. |
| onepinktee | says | yeah, I love to go looking for tags and who's tagged what - and to see what OTHER tags they're using |
| Connie | Let's talk about some other uses for it .... Class? Anyone? Bueller? |
| sonnygill | i'm definitely going to have to try that. do you search from all users or specific ppl, etc? |
| DebInAustin | says | I should have been trolling that for my Emily Dickinson project today! |
| Connie | Sonny, I do both. |
| DebInAustin | says | I want to find social networks where people discuss Emily Dickinson (really this is for a blog post) |
| Tim Jackson | Ok, so I'm convinced- I'll join. |
| Connie | For example, if I am writing about PR, I'm going to go to Delicious and find out what Brian Solis has bookmarked. |
| Connie | Now, I have to know his user name -- but most of us social media types are predictable and use the same user names over & over. |
| onepinktee | says | I've used it a lot for trip planning |
| Kellye_Crane | I love it for research, too. Are you going to talk about how to use the "My Network" function? I'm unfamiliar with that. |
| sonnygill | gotcha |
| Connie | How do you use it for trip planning, Pinky? |
| onepinktee | says | and for gift shopping - if I see something someone might like, I'll tag it accordingly |
| Connie | Do you tag it with their name? |
| onepinktee | says | so when a gift-giving occasion rolls around, I have a list of ideas and right where to buy them |
| Connie | That is a great idea! |
| onepinktee | says | sometimes I tag with names - but only for people who I know won't see |
| Connie | Delicious becomes your shopping list. |
| onepinktee | says | I just deleted some tags for a person I don't plan on buying any more gifts for |
| Teeg | used to love looking at the new pages when I was trying to find new items for StumbleUpon |
| Connie | You can also SEND something to another user on Delicious. In fact, I pitched my blog to Steve Rubel that way. |
| DebInAustin | says | yeah- you'd have to use code names for family members who also use delicious! |
| Tim Jackson | So if I want to find tags related to Masi, what do I do? |
| onepinktee | says | for trip planning, I use it to gather ideas - hotels I'm considering, restaurant reviews, transportation |
| Connie | So if you want to send me a blog post you're particularly proud of, or an article you think I would enjoy, you would tag it for:conniereece |
| DebInAustin | says | sneaky pitch! |
| Beth Harte | says | I'd like to know how it's used for social networking...I just use it to bookmark my stuff |
| onepinktee | says | I had a lot of tags for our London/Paris trip, for instance |
| Connie | Deb, he asked to be pitched that way! |
| DebInAustin | says | I meant that in a creative way! |
| ▄▀ TVisio ▀▄ | Link Sausage Delicious.com! |
| DebInAustin | says | actually, I like that kind of pitch idea better than microblogging. |
| Tim Jackson | OPT- I KNEW I made you mad... |
| Connie | And you can use it very creatively. Steve didn't want a lot of emails but he wanted to discover new blogs ... |
| Connie | so he told us how to send a post to him via Delicious, and sure enough I got on his "new voices" list, which senet a lot of traffic my way |
| AdamSherk | says before tagging your own content it's good to check what popular tags might be a good fit |
| DebInAustin | says | good tip Adam! |
| Connie | Yes, Adam, and you can subscribe to tags. |
| AdamSherk | says this can help get your pages in front of more people |
| Connie | Someone asked earlier about compound phrases -- Pinky uses one word, i.e. socialmedia. I do too. |
| Connie | Others use a + sign, social+media. |
| Kellye_Crane | The "for" function sounds really cool. How does it show up for the recipient? |
| Connie | There has to be a connector; can't have spaces in a tag. |
| Connie | And as a Mac person, I boycott the underscore in user names and tags. |
| Connie | Squirreling back to see what questions I missed. |
| DebInAustin | says | I just realized that I have "0" people in my network, so I am on here looking for you all while we talk. |
| Connie | Tim, first thing you would do is to search Delicious for the name Masi and then Masiguy. |
| Connie | And of course that's going to be a person who is into cycling, so probably someone you want to add to your network. |
| Connie | And they just might be someone you want to blog about or link to. |
| Kellye_Crane | Deb makes me think of another question! Connie: do you have separate accounts for personal/work stuff? |
| Connie | I only use Delicious for work stuff, so no. But I would recommend different accounts if needed. Or .... |
| Connie | If I bookmark something I don't want anyone else to see, you can tag it for your username only, to make it private. |
| Tim Jackson | Connie- is it effective fro "conversation mining", as I like to call it? |
| Connie | Do you know about the Note field when you tag something in Delicious? |
| onepinktee | says | yeah, I make use of private a lot |
| obsidianspider | is | Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself? |
| obsidianspider | is | Is there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself? |
| onepinktee | says | interestingly, that's a lot of what I cleaned out this week |
| Connie | You can't mark it for a group, but you could mark it for more than one person. |
| Teeg | Deb, I'm Teeg on there |
| Connie | Actually, they've been doing some recent updates and I haven't checked out all the new features. Being able to share resources w/ a |
| Beth Harte | says | all, obsidianspider is a friend of mine. This is his 1st Plurkshop. |
| Connie | group would be awesome. |
| sonnygill | its amazing how much u really can do with it. had no idea |
| Connie | I take time to use the Note feature now because it helps me remember WHY I bookmarked something. |
| Beth Harte | says | I don't think I used Del to it's full potential. |
| onepinktee | says | three guesses what my delicious username is... |
| Beth Harte | says | um, OPT, embroidered?! |
| Connie | Note works like this: you highlight a key point in the article and then when you click Tag, what you highlighted is copied into Note field. |
| Beth Harte | says | um, OPT, embroidered?! |
| onepinktee | says | Connie! thank you! I never investigated how people did that |
| Connie | Welcome, obsidianspider. |
| DebInAustin | says | kellye and sonny what are your usernames? |
| Connie | We're going fast -- so if I miss a question, please repeat it. |
| onepinktee | says | Beth, I'm feeling the same way - like I've just scratched the surface |
| Connie | Tim, tell me what you mean by conversation mining. |
| Connie | Finding out who is talking about the same subject? |
| DebInAustin | says | definitely a surface scratcher here... |
| Tim Jackson | So I'm thinking I'll join tonight and then plurk my user name. I want to build more reference spots for ideas & convo's. |
| Beth Harte | says | I had zero people in my network...adding now |
| Teeg | says | Nice to meet you, obsidianspider! |
| Tim Jackson | Connie- Yes- finding out where the conversations about the brand are happening, so I can listen and join in. |
| onepinktee | says | hi there obsidianspider |
| Connie | It is good for content for a blog post - use Delicious to find out who else is writing about something & link to them or comment on thr blog |
| Connie | Yes, Tim, you can use it for that. |
| Connie | It's better than Google for conversation mining in the sense that it shows what USERS (not G's spiders) consider important. |
| Kellye_Crane | That's a great tip! Do you always post your blog posts? |
| Connie | Kelly, I have started tagging my blog posts on Delicious. |
| Connie | Anybody know if there is a Wordpress plugin for that? I just do it manually but would be nice to automate. |
| Kellye_Crane | Good idea! I'm noticing you can search "your network" only, so that would help your peeps find your stuff. |
| Connie | Tagging my blog posts makes them visible to people searching for the same tags. |
| onepinktee | says | this is really inspiring me to use Delicious - I had "lost" my FF extension for a while |
| onepinktee | says | that reminds me - use the Delicious extension is you can! |
| Tim Jackson | Cool- I want to use it for expanding my knowledge of my user base and those who may or may not be friendly to the brand. I also want to tag |
| Tim Jackson | my own posts. |
| Connie | There are a number of other apps that do similar things -- tech ppl seem to prefer Magnolia, but I |
| Connie | have invested so much time in Delicious that I am not motivated to switch. |
| Connie | Excellent, Tim. |
| Connie | That's because I use Delicious as a research tool, not just social bookmarking. |
| obsidianspider | says | hi connie teeg onepinktee |
| Beth Harte | says | I use the FF add-on Shareaholic for Delicious and others. |
| Tim Jackson | everybody knows how important conversation is to me, so I want to be able to do more, better- with less "effort". |
| Beth Harte | says | I never thought to bookmark my own posts...thought it might be vain. But from a search perspective, I can see why you'd do it. |
| Connie | You really need to use the bookmarklets -- install them in your browser toolbar. Makes it very, very easy to tag. |
| Tim Jackson | My schedule is so chaotic, I need to better organize my efforts. |
| Connie | When you're reading articles/blog posts you will often notice a small icon at the bottom that you can click to add it to Delicious |
| Connie | Tim, that's the great thing about Delicious -- it goes wherever you do. If you're blogging from the road, you have access to all your tags. |
| obsidianspider | says | I just use the delicious Firefox add-on. Works great in "classic" mode for me |
| Connie | I just checked my Delicious account and I have 606 different tags. A few need to be cleaned up but that's a lot of topics! |
| Tim Jackson | Yep, Connie... sounds purdy danged handy. |
| Beth Harte | says | Connie, the tag feature that Del provides is perfect. Tim, you'll love it. One click effort (plus tags, etc.) But it's pretty simple |
| Connie | And I have bookmarked 1384 articles -- which shows you that I always add more than one tag to an article I bookmark. |
| obsidianspider | says | FWIW I have 1088 tags... |
| Connie | Obsidian, do you have your tags bundled? |
| onepinktee | says | I thought I had a lot at 200 tags |
| Tim Jackson | I'm gonna play around with it tonight. SO I am sure I'll have more questions later. I 'm a little slow... cracked skull and all... |
| Connie | Pinky, it just depends on how/what you use it for |
| Beth Harte | says | I can't find anyone. Are you all private? |
| onepinktee | says | Beth, I'm not - I've found several people here |
| Teeg | loves | how easy it is to tag things. You can also put your tags into categories to help you keep them organized |
| Connie | My user name is conniereece |
| onepinktee | says | are you searching from here delicious.com/user/ |
| Teeg | try del.icio.us/teeg beth |
| Connie | delicious.com/conniereece |
| AdamSherk | shares | URL lookup on Delicious - see how many people have bookmarked a particular URL and what tags they used for it |
| Connie | great tip, Adam. |
| obsidianspider | says | connie yes I do, 1045 bundled, 1088 unbundled, 991 things bookmarked |
| DebInAustin | says | beth- I added you to my network. I am DebInDenver |
| Kellye_Crane | I've used it for full-featured bookmarking, but as a result mine are a mess - need to somehow segment mine between biz and personal. |
| Connie | Kellye, you could use tag bundling for that. |
| Kellye_Crane | Not that I have anything unseemly |
| Connie | Bundling is like creating a folder for a group of tags. |
| Kellye_Crane | And then could I mark the personal bundle as private? |
| Connie | Not sure you could do that Kellye. |
| Kellye_Crane | Loved that link, Adam- thanks |
| Connie | I think the privacy feature applies to the account as a whole, not just certain tags/bundles. |
| DebInAustin | says | thanks from me too Adam! |
| Beth Harte | says | found you all. I was not doing it right (little tags, forgot reading glasses...stinks getting old). <<Todd! |
| Kellye_Crane | Ok, thanks Connie. |
| Beth Harte | says | I like the bundle feature |
| Beth Harte | says | but I need more than 60 bookmarks first. |
| Kellye_Crane | when you post something "for" another user, how does it show up for them? did I read somewhere it's in the inbox? |
| obsidianspider | says | bethharte Who you callin' old? |
| Connie | When you combine an RSS reader with Delicious -- a great combination for keeping track of things you want to save AND promoting your content |
| Connie | Kellye, yes it shows up as "new" in the Inbox. |
| AdamSherk | asks | has anyone imported over a large amount of bookmarks from their browser? I've heard it can be a little messy |
| Connie | Adam, I did import some but it was not very many so it worked fine. |
| AdamSherk | asks | if you don't have your browser bookmarks in well labeled folders |
| Connie | I've heard the same thing that it can be tricky when you do that. |
| AdamSherk | says | I've been meaning to do this for a looong time but just haven't done so! |
| DebInAustin | says | I have a question, when you can get to it. What is the difference in being someone's fan and adding them to your network? I added OPT |
| Connie | Adam, what if you created a separate delicious account for the links you import? That way if it had problems, it wouldn't mess your |
| Connie | original delicious account up. |
| Kellye_Crane | One thing about importing is that all those bookmarks are tagged "imported" (in addition to whatever folder name) and are also not shared |
| Connie | However, then you would need to figure out a way to combine the two accounts. |
| DebInAustin | says | to my network and see that she is a "fan" listed under "fans" as well as listed under "network" |
| Kellye_Crane | so you would be the only one to see the mess, Adam |
| Connie | I think they are added to your network when they reciprocate by adding you. But I'm not positive about that answer. |
| Connie | Nope, I'm wrong. |
| Beth Harte | says | Connie, I completely forgot that I had started an account under my name before under THoM. Can I combine the accounts? |
| Connie | Looks like my network is everyone I'm following and there is an icon by the name if they are also subscribed to me. |
| Connie | Beth, I don't know the answer to that. |
| DebInAustin | says | OK- I see the mutual fan icon both next to OPT under "network" and under "fan" |
| DebInAustin | says | beth, LOL |
| AdamSherk | says | Kellye_Crane can you later share all the imported bookmarks in bulk (if there are no probs) or do you have to share them one at at time? |
| Beth Harte | says | Deb. I just deleted both accounts. Don't know how that happened. UGH |
| DebInAustin | says | oh no! |
| Kellye_Crane | AdamSherk, I think you do it one at a time, but if you go to the page for the imported tab it's not too hard to go down the list |
| Connie | Deb, I just tried to add you and it says no such user. |
| Beth Harte | says | time to start over...at least I know what I am doing this time! |
| sonnygill | lol Beth, thats terrible |
| DebInAustin | says | folks, I have to go. I only had an hour for this I am afraid. i will go back through and write the recap tomorrow. |
| Connie | Adam, could you tag them all for:adamsherk ... and they would show up in that account? |
| Connie | I need to wind down too ... any final questions? |
| AdamSherk | says | thanks, I think I'll give it a shot this week. I have lots of SEO and social media marketing bookmarks I'd like to move over to delicious |
| DebInAustin | says | Connie I was able to add you into my network. If DebInDenver didn't work try debrobison. |
| sonnygill | ditto, i will have to catch up with the rest...definitely GREAT info here Connie. |
| onepinktee | says | ack Beth |
| Connie | That worked, Deb. |
| onepinktee | says | GREAT job Connie, you are a rockin hostess |
| Connie | Adam, thanks for participating. |
| Kellye_Crane | I'm kcrane for now, but as I say it's a mess. I'll let you know when it's updated. |
| AdamSherk | says | thanks for the Plurkshop Connie! |
| Connie | And welcome to newcomer, obsidianspider. |
| Beth Harte | says | this is great, thanks Connie and all! |
| obsidianspider | says | bethharte at least it was only 60 bookmarks, not a few hundred |
| obsidianspider | says | Thanks connie |
| Kellye_Crane | Awesome info, Connie. Many thanks! |
| Connie | Thank you all for listening and participating. |
| Kellye_Crane | I'm bookmarking this Plurk on Delicious!! |
| Tim Jackson | Thanks all- as usual, I learned a lot. |
| DebInAustin | says | thanks everyone! |
| Tim Jackson | Just created account. I'm tvjackson. |
| Teeg | says | Thanks Connie! |
| RaaVi | says | bookmark them all sites plurklink |
| pfanderson | says | AARGHHH I forgot about this! I am delicious addict w/ 15K links. |
| Nethead | says | this was great; learned alot |
| DebInAustin | says | I still have to write the recap- sorry all! I will plurk the link when I do! |
| Connie | pfanderson should have been leading this one! |
| DebInAustin | says | pfanderson if you have anything you'd like to add, I would be happy to put it as a note in the recap. |
| BarbaraKB | is | *sigh* yet another thing I missed when the lights when out in Cincy. |
| pfanderson | says | Pondering, pondering - Here is a terse but meaty footnote |
| pfanderson | says | delicious.com/rosefirerising |
| DebInAustin | says | I will do the recap tomorrow afternoon everyone! I apologize for the delay! |
| pfanderson | says | Someone just asked me for tips on how I keep track of (now) over 16K bookmarks. Replies here: www.plurk.com/p/4d393 |
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