September 17, 2008 at 01:04DebInDenversayshowdy! I just have to get my soup. Connie do you want to do the re-cap or have me do it?
September 17, 2008 at 01:01Beth Hartesayshi there!
September 17, 2008 at 01:01Tim In DenverAm I in the right place? My brain is SO cooked.
September 17, 2008 at 01:05TarainDenverI was cleaning up my Delicious links this weekend in anticipation of this
September 17, 2008 at 01:05SonnyInDenveri dont even wanna know how my links are looking
September 17, 2008 at 01:05ConnieinDenverI would appreciate someone else doing the recap. I'm swamped. Teaching a workshop tomorrow and ... well ... haven't finished my preso.
September 17, 2008 at 01:06ConnieinDenverTara, would come clean up my Delicious links? LOL I need to spend some time bundling some tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:03TeegInDenversaysHi everyone
September 17, 2008 at 01:03TeegInDenverwondersif Del fixed their RSS issues
September 17, 2008 at 01:06DebInDenversaysOK, I will write it, unless we have someone just DYING to write a recap
September 17, 2008 at 01:06ConnieinDenverLet's see, we've got Sonny and TIM (sorry for shouting) and Beth and Deb and Tara and Teeg.
September 17, 2008 at 01:04DebInDenversaysI opened up delicious in anticipation of this plurkshop...
September 17, 2008 at 01:04ConnieinDenverTeeg, I don't know if the fixed the RSS issues because I do not use their RSS feed.
September 17, 2008 at 01:04DebInDenversaysnethead replurked it, so he may be lurking here somewhere...
September 17, 2008 at 01:07Tim In DenverYes... I'm here for a change. I feel like such a hobo...
September 17, 2008 at 01:04ConnieinDenverHow do you use the RSS feed, Teeg - to subscribe to a content tag or to follow another user's tags?
September 17, 2008 at 01:05TarainDenversaysI'd volunteer to recap, but I have TWO client data reports to finish by Friday
September 17, 2008 at 01:08ConnieinDenverActually, that's getting ahead of myself but I'm curious about that.
September 17, 2008 at 01:08TarainDenversaysthat's the reason I had to dash back to the office....
September 17, 2008 at 01:05ConnieinDenverDoes everyone understand the concept of tagging, or do we need to spend a minute or two on that?
September 17, 2008 at 01:05TeegInDenversaysActually, I have a problem with their RSS anytime I add someone else's pages to my Del page
September 17, 2008 at 01:09DebInDenversaysyou know, I would like to know how to tag multiple words so they don't come out two separate words- like social media- do I need to put in
September 17, 2008 at 01:09Tim In DenverI'm so backwards, I have never used delicious ever... AND I don't even have an RSS feed.
September 17, 2008 at 01:09TeegInDenversaysit adds that page to my RSS list like I'd written whatever it is, and shares that link anywhere that tracks RSS feeds
September 17, 2008 at 01:07ConnieinDenverokay, I'm going to take a minute to explain tags and then I'll get to Deb's question about compound tags
September 17, 2008 at 01:07DebInDenversaysso Tim you are here to do color commentary?
September 17, 2008 at 01:10SonnyInDenveryes u can go over tagging i think
September 17, 2008 at 01:07KellinDenversaysI'm here too (a bit late)
September 17, 2008 at 01:07ConnieinDenverThink back to the olden days when we all worked in offices and handled a lot of paper ... somebody had to file it.
September 17, 2008 at 01:07ConnieinDenverAnd once upon a time it was me. I hated it, btw. Still do. But that's another story.
September 17, 2008 at 01:11ConnieinDenverAnyway, when you are filing paper, you can only put it in one folder. So you have to be very specific about the label you put on it --
September 17, 2008 at 01:08Tim In DenverDiD- I've color... to spare.
September 17, 2008 at 01:11ConnieinDenverbecause you are later going to have to remember that one label if you want to retrieve it.
September 17, 2008 at 01:08ConnieinDenverYou could cross-reference it, but that mean you had to make a physical copy of the paper and then put it in a second file folder.
September 17, 2008 at 01:12ConnieinDenverSo not a lot of cross-referencing got done.
September 17, 2008 at 01:12ConnieinDenverWith electronic documents, you don't have those physical limitations; you can "file" that document in as many folders as you want to --
September 17, 2008 at 01:12ConnieinDenverand that is by using tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:10ConnieinDenverGmail is a great example of this. You can put more than one label on an email and that is their equivalent of an Outlook folder.
September 17, 2008 at 01:13ConnieinDenverThat means you can click on any one of the labels a document is stored under and easily retrieve it.
September 17, 2008 at 01:14ConnieinDenverEverybody clear so far, or do we have questions?
September 17, 2008 at 01:14ConnieinDenverDon't everybody speak at once.
September 17, 2008 at 01:11TarainDenversaysgreat explanation, Connie
September 17, 2008 at 01:14Tim In DenverWhat's a file...
September 17, 2008 at 01:14DebInDenversaysI am clear *waiting with baited breath to learn about compound tags*
September 17, 2008 at 01:12ConnieinDenverLOL Breathe, Deb. Tim, you may need to stay after class .....
September 17, 2008 at 01:15TarainDenversaysI always put them together as one word, so socialmedia
September 17, 2008 at 01:15ConnieinDenverDelicious is another way of tagging electronic documents -- blog posts, articles and other content.
September 17, 2008 at 01:13TeegInDenverLOL and Great explanation Connie
September 17, 2008 at 01:13ConnieinDenverDelicious is also called social bookmarking -- it's a way you can bookmark a site/page to find it later, and you can also share it w/
September 17, 2008 at 01:17ConnieinDenverThe bookmarklets -- little tools that you copy to your toolbar -- make it very easy to tag / describe / share the content without ever
September 17, 2008 at 01:17SonnyInDenvergood explanation.
September 17, 2008 at 01:14ConnieinDenverleaving the page you're on.
September 17, 2008 at 01:18ConnieinDenverAs a writer, I love delicious for research. For one thing, it's a way for me to retrieve stuff I've marked as important.
September 17, 2008 at 01:15ConnieinDenverMore than that, I can go find out what YOU have been bookmarking. You might have found info I didn't find in my initial research.
September 17, 2008 at 01:15ConnieinDenverSo I describe Delicious as a way to get the smartest people in the world to do your research -- for free.
September 17, 2008 at 01:15SonnyInDenverinteresting - never thought of it to use for research.
September 17, 2008 at 01:19ConnieinDenverthat's my number 1 use for it, Sonny.
September 17, 2008 at 01:19ConnieinDenvermany other uses for it, but as a writer that is what first attracted me to Delicious.
September 17, 2008 at 01:19TarainDenversaysyeah, I love to go looking for tags and who's tagged what - and to see what OTHER tags they're using
September 17, 2008 at 01:19ConnieinDenverLet's talk about some other uses for it .... Class? Anyone? Bueller?
September 17, 2008 at 01:19SonnyInDenveri'm definitely going to have to try that. do you search from all users or specific ppl, etc?
September 17, 2008 at 01:19DebInDenversaysI should have been trolling that for my Emily Dickinson project today!
September 17, 2008 at 01:17ConnieinDenverSonny, I do both.
September 17, 2008 at 01:17DebInDenversaysI want to find social networks where people discuss Emily Dickinson (really this is for a blog post)
September 17, 2008 at 01:20Tim In DenverOk, so I'm convinced- I'll join.
September 17, 2008 at 01:17ConnieinDenverFor example, if I am writing about PR, I'm going to go to Delicious and find out what Brian Solis has bookmarked.
September 17, 2008 at 01:20ConnieinDenverNow, I have to know his user name -- but most of us social media types are predictable and use the same user names over & over.
September 17, 2008 at 01:20TarainDenversaysI've used it a lot for trip planning
September 17, 2008 at 01:18KellinDenverI love it for research, too. Are you going to talk about how to use the "My Network" function? I'm unfamiliar with that.
September 17, 2008 at 01:21ConnieinDenverHow do you use it for trip planning, Pinky?
September 17, 2008 at 01:21TarainDenversaysand for gift shopping - if I see something someone might like, I'll tag it accordingly
September 17, 2008 at 01:18ConnieinDenverDo you tag it with their name?
September 17, 2008 at 01:21TarainDenversaysso when a gift-giving occasion rolls around, I have a list of ideas and right where to buy them
September 17, 2008 at 01:19ConnieinDenverThat is a great idea!
September 17, 2008 at 01:19TarainDenversayssometimes I tag with names - but only for people who I know won't see
September 17, 2008 at 01:22ConnieinDenverDelicious becomes your shopping list.
September 17, 2008 at 01:22TarainDenversaysI just deleted some tags for a person I don't plan on buying any more gifts for
September 17, 2008 at 01:19TeegInDenverused to love looking at the new pages when I was trying to find new items for StumbleUpon
September 17, 2008 at 01:19ConnieinDenverYou can also SEND something to another user on Delicious. In fact, I pitched my blog to Steve Rubel that way.
September 17, 2008 at 01:23DebInDenversaysyeah- you'd have to use code names for family members who also use delicious!
September 17, 2008 at 01:20Tim In DenverSo if I want to find tags related to Masi, what do I do?
September 17, 2008 at 01:23TarainDenversaysfor trip planning, I use it to gather ideas - hotels I'm considering, restaurant reviews, transportation
September 17, 2008 at 01:23ConnieinDenverSo if you want to send me a blog post you're particularly proud of, or an article you think I would enjoy, you would tag it for:conniereece
September 17, 2008 at 01:20DebInDenversayssneaky pitch!
September 17, 2008 at 01:20Beth HartesaysI'd like to know how it's used for social networking...I just use it to bookmark my stuff
September 17, 2008 at 01:23TarainDenversaysI had a lot of tags for our London/Paris trip, for instance
September 17, 2008 at 01:20ConnieinDenverDeb, he asked to be pitched that way!
September 17, 2008 at 01:20DebInDenversaysI meant that in a creative way!
September 17, 2008 at 01:21DebInDenversaysactually, I like that kind of pitch idea better than microblogging.
September 17, 2008 at 01:21Tim In DenverOPT- I KNEW I made you mad...
September 17, 2008 at 01:21ConnieinDenverAnd you can use it very creatively. Steve didn't want a lot of emails but he wanted to discover new blogs ...
September 17, 2008 at 01:22ConnieinDenverso he told us how to send a post to him via Delicious, and sure enough I got on his "new voices" list, which senet a lot of traffic my way
September 17, 2008 at 01:25AdamSherksays before tagging your own content it's good to check what popular tags might be a good fit
September 17, 2008 at 01:22DebInDenversaysgood tip Adam!
September 17, 2008 at 01:25ConnieinDenverYes, Adam, and you can subscribe to tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:25AdamSherksays this can help get your pages in front of more people
September 17, 2008 at 01:23ConnieinDenverSomeone asked earlier about compound phrases -- Pinky uses one word, i.e. socialmedia. I do too.
September 17, 2008 at 01:23ConnieinDenverOthers use a + sign, social+media.
September 17, 2008 at 01:23KellinDenverThe "for" function sounds really cool. How does it show up for the recipient?
September 17, 2008 at 01:26ConnieinDenverThere has to be a connector; can't have spaces in a tag.
September 17, 2008 at 01:27ConnieinDenverAnd as a Mac person, I boycott the underscore in user names and tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:28ConnieinDenverSquirreling back to see what questions I missed.
September 17, 2008 at 01:28DebInDenversaysI just realized that I have "0" people in my network, so I am on here looking for you all while we talk.
September 17, 2008 at 01:28ConnieinDenverTim, first thing you would do is to search Delicious for the name Masi and then Masiguy.
September 17, 2008 at 01:25ConnieinDenverAnd of course that's going to be a person who is into cycling, so probably someone you want to add to your network.
September 17, 2008 at 01:29ConnieinDenverAnd they just might be someone you want to blog about or link to.
September 17, 2008 at 01:26KellinDenverDeb makes me think of another question! Connie: do you have separate accounts for personal/work stuff?
September 17, 2008 at 01:29ConnieinDenverI only use Delicious for work stuff, so no. But I would recommend different accounts if needed. Or ....
September 17, 2008 at 01:30ConnieinDenverIf I bookmark something I don't want anyone else to see, you can tag it for your username only, to make it private.
September 17, 2008 at 01:31Tim In DenverConnie- is it effective fro "conversation mining", as I like to call it?
September 17, 2008 at 01:28ConnieinDenverDo you know about the Note field when you tag something in Delicious?
September 17, 2008 at 01:31TarainDenversaysyeah, I make use of private a lot
September 17, 2008 at 01:31obsidianspiderisIs there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
September 17, 2008 at 01:31obsidianspiderisIs there a way to mark something as private, but for a select group of people, not just yourself?
September 17, 2008 at 01:29TarainDenversaysinterestingly, that's a lot of what I cleaned out this week
September 17, 2008 at 01:29ConnieinDenverYou can't mark it for a group, but you could mark it for more than one person.
September 17, 2008 at 01:32TeegInDenverDeb, I'm Teeg on there
September 17, 2008 at 01:33ConnieinDenverActually, they've been doing some recent updates and I haven't checked out all the new features. Being able to share resources w/ a
September 17, 2008 at 01:33Beth Hartesaysall, obsidianspider is a friend of mine. This is his 1st Plurkshop.
September 17, 2008 at 01:33ConnieinDenvergroup would be awesome.
September 17, 2008 at 01:33SonnyInDenverits amazing how much u really can do with it. had no idea
September 17, 2008 at 01:31ConnieinDenverI take time to use the Note feature now because it helps me remember WHY I bookmarked something.
September 17, 2008 at 01:34Beth HartesaysI don't think I used Del to it's full potential.
September 17, 2008 at 01:34TarainDenversaysthree guesses what my delicious username is...
September 17, 2008 at 01:31Beth Hartesaysum, OPT, embroidered?!
September 17, 2008 at 01:31ConnieinDenverNote works like this: you highlight a key point in the article and then when you click Tag, what you highlighted is copied into Note field.
September 17, 2008 at 01:34Beth Hartesaysum, OPT, embroidered?!
September 17, 2008 at 01:35TarainDenversaysConnie! thank you! I never investigated how people did that
September 17, 2008 at 01:32DebInDenversayskellye and sonny what are your usernames?
September 17, 2008 at 01:32ConnieinDenverWe're going fast -- so if I miss a question, please repeat it.
September 17, 2008 at 01:33TarainDenversaysBeth, I'm feeling the same way - like I've just scratched the surface
September 17, 2008 at 01:33ConnieinDenverTim, tell me what you mean by conversation mining.
September 17, 2008 at 01:36ConnieinDenverFinding out who is talking about the same subject?
September 17, 2008 at 01:36DebInDenversaysdefinitely a surface scratcher here...
September 17, 2008 at 01:34Tim In DenverSo I'm thinking I'll join tonight and then plurk my user name. I want to build more reference spots for ideas & convo's.
September 17, 2008 at 01:34Beth HartesaysI had zero people in my network...adding now
September 17, 2008 at 01:35ConnieinDenverIt is good for content for a blog post - use Delicious to find out who else is writing about something & link to them or comment on thr blog
September 17, 2008 at 01:38ConnieinDenverYes, Tim, you can use it for that.
September 17, 2008 at 01:39ConnieinDenverIt's better than Google for conversation mining in the sense that it shows what USERS (not G's spiders) consider important.
September 17, 2008 at 01:36KellinDenverThat's a great tip! Do you always post your blog posts?
September 17, 2008 at 01:40ConnieinDenverKelly, I have started tagging my blog posts on Delicious.
September 17, 2008 at 01:40ConnieinDenverAnybody know if there is a Wordpress plugin for that? I just do it manually but would be nice to automate.
September 17, 2008 at 01:41KellinDenverGood idea! I'm noticing you can search "your network" only, so that would help your peeps find your stuff.
September 17, 2008 at 01:41ConnieinDenverTagging my blog posts makes them visible to people searching for the same tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:42TarainDenversaysthis is really inspiring me to use Delicious - I had "lost" my FF extension for a while
September 17, 2008 at 01:42TarainDenversaysthat reminds me - use the Delicious extension is you can!
September 17, 2008 at 01:39Tim In DenverCool- I want to use it for expanding my knowledge of my user base and those who may or may not be friendly to the brand. I also want to tag
September 17, 2008 at 01:42Tim In Denvermy own posts.
September 17, 2008 at 01:39ConnieinDenverThere are a number of other apps that do similar things -- tech ppl seem to prefer Magnolia, but I
September 17, 2008 at 01:39ConnieinDenverhave invested so much time in Delicious that I am not motivated to switch.
September 17, 2008 at 01:43ConnieinDenverExcellent, Tim.
September 17, 2008 at 01:40ConnieinDenverThat's because I use Delicious as a research tool, not just social bookmarking.
September 17, 2008 at 01:43Beth HartesaysI use the FF add-on Shareaholic for Delicious and others.
September 17, 2008 at 01:44Tim In Denvereverybody knows how important conversation is to me, so I want to be able to do more, better- with less "effort".
September 17, 2008 at 01:44Beth HartesaysI never thought to bookmark my own posts...thought it might be vain. But from a search perspective, I can see why you'd do it.
September 17, 2008 at 01:44ConnieinDenverYou really need to use the bookmarklets -- install them in your browser toolbar. Makes it very, very easy to tag.
September 17, 2008 at 01:45Tim In DenverMy schedule is so chaotic, I need to better organize my efforts.
September 17, 2008 at 01:45ConnieinDenverWhen you're reading articles/blog posts you will often notice a small icon at the bottom that you can click to add it to Delicious
September 17, 2008 at 01:45ConnieinDenverTim, that's the great thing about Delicious -- it goes wherever you do. If you're blogging from the road, you have access to all your tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:47obsidianspidersaysI just use the delicious Firefox add-on. Works great in "classic" mode for me
September 17, 2008 at 01:47ConnieinDenverI just checked my Delicious account and I have 606 different tags. A few need to be cleaned up but that's a lot of topics!
September 17, 2008 at 01:47Tim In DenverYep, Connie... sounds purdy danged handy.
September 17, 2008 at 01:44Beth HartesaysConnie, the tag feature that Del provides is perfect. Tim, you'll love it. One click effort (plus tags, etc.) But it's pretty simple
September 17, 2008 at 01:48ConnieinDenverAnd I have bookmarked 1384 articles -- which shows you that I always add more than one tag to an article I bookmark.
September 17, 2008 at 01:48obsidianspidersaysFWIW I have 1088 tags...
September 17, 2008 at 01:45ConnieinDenverObsidian, do you have your tags bundled?
September 17, 2008 at 01:48TarainDenversaysI thought I had a lot at 200 tags
September 17, 2008 at 01:46Tim In DenverI'm gonna play around with it tonight. SO I am sure I'll have more questions later. I 'm a little slow... cracked skull and all...
September 17, 2008 at 01:49ConnieinDenverPinky, it just depends on how/what you use it for
September 17, 2008 at 01:49Beth HartesaysI can't find anyone. Are you all private?
September 17, 2008 at 01:50TarainDenversaysBeth, I'm not - I've found several people here
September 17, 2008 at 01:50TeegInDenverloveshow easy it is to tag things. You can also put your tags into categories to help you keep them organized
September 17, 2008 at 01:50ConnieinDenverMy user name is conniereece
September 17, 2008 at 01:47AdamSherksharesURL lookup on Delicious - see how many people have bookmarked a particular URL and what tags they used for it
September 17, 2008 at 01:51ConnieinDenvergreat tip, Adam.
September 17, 2008 at 01:48obsidianspidersaysconnie yes I do, 1045 bundled, 1088 unbundled, 991 things bookmarked
September 17, 2008 at 01:51DebInDenversaysbeth- I added you to my network. I am DebInDenver
September 17, 2008 at 01:51KellinDenverI've used it for full-featured bookmarking, but as a result mine are a mess - need to somehow segment mine between biz and personal.
September 17, 2008 at 01:51ConnieinDenverKellye, you could use tag bundling for that.
September 17, 2008 at 01:48KellinDenverNot that I have anything unseemly
September 17, 2008 at 01:51ConnieinDenverBundling is like creating a folder for a group of tags.
September 17, 2008 at 01:49KellinDenverAnd then could I mark the personal bundle as private?
September 17, 2008 at 01:52ConnieinDenverNot sure you could do that Kellye.
September 17, 2008 at 01:53KellinDenverLoved that link, Adam- thanks
September 17, 2008 at 01:50ConnieinDenverI think the privacy feature applies to the account as a whole, not just certain tags/bundles.
September 17, 2008 at 01:50DebInDenversaysthanks from me too Adam!
September 17, 2008 at 01:50Beth Hartesaysfound you all. I was not doing it right (little tags, forgot reading glasses...stinks getting old). <<Todd!
September 17, 2008 at 01:50KellinDenverOk, thanks Connie.
September 17, 2008 at 01:54Beth HartesaysI like the bundle feature
September 17, 2008 at 01:51Beth Hartesaysbut I need more than 60 bookmarks first.
September 17, 2008 at 01:55KellinDenverwhen you post something "for" another user, how does it show up for them? did I read somewhere it's in the inbox?
September 17, 2008 at 01:52ConnieinDenverWhen you combine an RSS reader with Delicious -- a great combination for keeping track of things you want to save AND promoting your content
September 17, 2008 at 01:56ConnieinDenverKellye, yes it shows up as "new" in the Inbox.
September 17, 2008 at 01:53AdamSherkaskshas anyone imported over a large amount of bookmarks from their browser? I've heard it can be a little messy
September 17, 2008 at 01:56ConnieinDenverAdam, I did import some but it was not very many so it worked fine.
September 17, 2008 at 01:57AdamSherkasksif you don't have your browser bookmarks in well labeled folders
September 17, 2008 at 01:54ConnieinDenverI've heard the same thing that it can be tricky when you do that.
September 17, 2008 at 01:54AdamSherksaysI've been meaning to do this for a looong time but just haven't done so!
September 17, 2008 at 01:58DebInDenversaysI have a question, when you can get to it. What is the difference in being someone's fan and adding them to your network? I added OPT
September 17, 2008 at 01:55ConnieinDenverAdam, what if you created a separate delicious account for the links you import? That way if it had problems, it wouldn't mess your
September 17, 2008 at 01:58ConnieinDenveroriginal delicious account up.
September 17, 2008 at 01:58KellinDenverOne thing about importing is that all those bookmarks are tagged "imported" (in addition to whatever folder name) and are also not shared
September 17, 2008 at 01:58ConnieinDenverHowever, then you would need to figure out a way to combine the two accounts.
September 17, 2008 at 01:55DebInDenversaysto my network and see that she is a "fan" listed under "fans" as well as listed under "network"
September 17, 2008 at 01:56KellinDenverso you would be the only one to see the mess, Adam
September 17, 2008 at 01:56ConnieinDenverI think they are added to your network when they reciprocate by adding you. But I'm not positive about that answer.