| amix | has | done some changes to Plurk karma. Now it will only dropped if your are inactive for 12 hours straight |
| artharry | says |
| ://jay_ | thinks | thats sweet. |
| worlddx | now freeze it or delete. |
| topsurf | img99.exs.cx/img99/8577/yupi3ti.gif |
| Matthew Hughes | says | You mean, if we sleep. |
| Matthew Hughes | says | That's fucking ridiculous dude. Seriously. I agree with glados, make it 24. That is fucking reasonable. |
| xǝpuɐ☆ | is | lucky to get 12 hours a week much less in a row... |
| Matthew Hughes | says | This ^ |
| polink | nerds don't sleep. |
| Jedi_kristian | says | yay great |
| emporio | says | why not compromise to 18 hours? |
| Matthew Hughes | says | I could deal with that. |
| sharon_elin | says | Hooray! Karma with common sense! Next we hope for karma vacations (even our bosses give us those!) |
| amix | we may change it to 24 hours, depends on how this current change behaves |
| eztephen | No, seriously, 24. Some of us have jobs outside the net. |
| eztephen | and family who seem to think that chatting with them whilst playing on an Apple iPhone is inappropriate. |
| bambam | says | i prefer 24hrs.. |
| Teeg | appreciates this! No more staying up just so karma won't drop while I'm sleeping. |
| amix | plurk won't be interesting if people plurk once every 24 hours. |
| bambam | says | i will lose 0.16 for being inactive.. but i will only gain 0.09 for my activity.. |
| qudsiya | thinks | 12 hours is just fine. Dont whine. |
| qudsiya | thinks | 12 hours is just fine. Dont whine. |
| qudsiya | thinks | 12 hours is just fine. Dont whine. |
| amix | these parameters may change in the future and nothing is promised. the general goal for karma is to support good usage |
| BarbaraKB | shares | "Karma promotes good useage." This is why Plurk will never go mainstream. Promote community & relationships instead! |
| spiderwebwoman | says |
| BarbaraKB | asks | ... make Karma optional? Let those who enjoy competition @ it... and the rest of us opt out for community. What think? |
| bambam | says | agreed with www.plurk.com/user/BarbaraKB but not totally.. |
| amix | knitters for example are those with some of the highest karma, because they are very social and active users. |
| CeeDubb | : Karma is the direct catalyst for inane chatter for the sake *Karma Maintenance*. That has nothing to do with community and relationships. |
| CeeDubb | : It's goal fundamentally pure and good, but put into practice, it drives many of the mainstream folks away. |
| SharonHH | says |
| bambam | says | www.plurk.com/user/amix:so.. in 24 hours we could lose (2* -0.16 = -0.32) but we can still gain (6* +0.09 = +0.54)??? |
| CeeDubb | : Plus, Plurk needs to find a better way to *disconnect* from the computer than *Mobile Plurk*. |
| CeeDubb | : Borrow a page from Facebook and develop a good application for the iPhone and other mobile devices. |
| amix | CeeDubb: post your suggestions on getsatisfaction.com/plurk |
| CeeDubb | : A good service will stand on its own design. Ask yourself if Plurk would be great if you dropped the Karma feature... |
| Cindy Thomas | that still sucks tho... our lives don't revolve around plurk!!! I love plurk but frankly am sick of this karma thing.. |
| amix | BarbaraKB: getsatisfaction.com/plurk/topics/plurk_make_karma_optional : one person likes the idea of removing karma currently |
| BarbaraKB | says | Not asked for removal. I have asked for it to be *optional* Opt-out! Thus, community here not part of Karma. Why?.... |
| BarbaraKB | ... more new users for Plurk. So many start and the abandon @ Plurk because of Karma. Biggest turn off to this app. Big!! |
| Nethead | says | Karma? what that? oh, i remember that what i remove from my dashboard about 1 months ago, w00t! no more Karma!! |
| Nethead | says | so remember ; you can remove karma from your dashboard and not have to see it any more; then you tend to forget about it |
| BarbaraKB | says | example of leaving just now: www.plurk.com/m/p/3q1va many more. many. |
| Nethead | says | (nethead.blogspot.com/2008/08/remove-karma-from-your-plurk-profile-1.html) How to remove Karma from your Dashboard |
| Nethead | says | scum LOL |
| Nethead | says | How to remove Karma from your dashboard |
| Feld | w00ts |
| Nethead | says | okay; need more sleep |
| GingerLewman | says | nethead: ack, bad link. |
| topsurf | I think those who leave because of the karma are missing the point, for me plurk is more about he friends here then the Karma I might or |
| topsurf | might not receive |
| WillyCee | says | : ...for posting some constructive criticism earlier. |
| Nethead | says | BarbaraKB; can agree; a 'check' box idea is nice; i think that karama is fun for the noobs (as we where once) , but after using plurk |
| Nethead | says | karma can still be a fun thing; but as we get 'older' on plurk, it tends not to mean the same and we can then 'chk' and remove it |
| Nethead | says | i think have taken plurk to the 'next' level and made it a community and not just our close friends as it was intended to be org and doing |
| Nethead | says | so we have found the community is the important part of plurk; but some find the karma overwhelming ; human nature; i know of 2 persons whom |
| Nethead | says | left because of it; the removing via CSS helped alot for me |
| BarbaraKB | needs | to leave |
| Nethead | says | sorry for the overplurking here |
| amix | thinks | users should add CSS like nethead if they find karma disturbing. we may make it easier, we may not. it depends on how much feedback |
| Olivia Bell | says | that's fantastic. Way better than before - as for 24 hours thing, I think waiting and seeing how the 12 hours will manage is a good idea. |
| Olivia Bell | says | Plurk is great and a big part of it *is* to do with karma. |
| Olivia Bell | says | thanks amix |
| amix | shares | getsatisfaction.com/plurk/topics/plurk_make_karma_optional - vote here if you like the idea of making karma optional |
| amix | oliviabell: you're welcome |
| TheBadMonkey | amix - have mild complaints about karma that I will restrict to getsatisfaction. Thanks for all your work. |
| TheBadMonkey | Even many of us who bitch a lot really appreciate it! |
| CeeDubb | : Hmmm... I'm not trying to start an argument, but when I'm blocked in mid-reply for a Karma-related suggestion, it's annoying... |
| CeeDubb | : My piece is said. I'll look forwardto the possible *opt-out* feature. Ryan Lim will keep my interest in Plurk with his upcoming iApp. |
| jon426 | says |
| Alice | says |
| Olivia Bell | says | just slightly off topic and a little something someone told me to help me... a friend once said to me that, if I choose to use services |
| Olivia Bell | says | like Plurk, Facebook, or anything - then I must abide by their rules. If I don't like them, then I should then leave if it is worrying me so |
| CeeDubb | : True Olivia, but a service balances their vision with the wants of the users. It should be influenced by the users' desires... |
| CeeDubb | : ...but not controlled by them. |
| eriktrips | amik re: @ BarbaraKB : at least 15 people like the idea of removing karma... |
| eriktrips | amik and if more people knew about GetSatisfaction you'd probably see that number grow. |
| Olivia Bell | says | CeeDubb: |
| Olivia Bell | says | half has been made.. maybe more needs to be made, but try to be happy with what they've got so far. I'm sure they're doing their best. |
| eriktrips | I know, netwise, at least ten people who haven't joined plurk because of the karma system.. |
| eriktrips | the rest of my lj friendslist has not been as specific about what they don't like about plurk. many of them twitter, however. |
| HighDef™ | Sweeeet! |
| Rosanna Bell | says | Thank you you so much amix. I think 12 hours is perfectly reasonable... if it doesn't work it can always be changed to 24 |
| Rosanna Bell | says | but personally I think 12 hours is just fine |
| Olivia Bell | says | eriktrips: not everyone loves something. we're all different. I for one love karma, it adds a nice interest to it |
| eriktrips | I like plurk because I think threaded conversations in a "microblogging" application was a very good idea. it's why I stay.. |
| skraggy | says | I feel this is a good and balanced changed to the karma system. |
| eriktrips | ..however I've seen many people create accounts and then leave because they find karma "annoying," "stupid," and other things I won't repeat |
| skraggy | says | as far as the why does it bother some people though... when you score people, some get wrapped up in it. Even if they don't want to care... |
| skraggy | says | they know they are being "judged" by a score. |
| eriktrips | thousands of people explicitly say they are joining "because of karma"? |
| Keli | this is a good thing! Thanks |
| eriktrips | says | how do you know if users are leaving? how many accounts are created and then sit unused? |
| eriktrips | says | just to be clear: I'm voicing my frustration at getting interesting people to join plurk.. |
| eriktrips | says | karma is the number one reason I hear for creating an account and then abandoning it, or not creating an account at all |
| eriktrips | says | it's your choice whether or not to listen to your users when they say what they see happening |
| greytfriend | I think karma can be a tool to get people involved and plurking. Most, once they develop real friendships, don't care much about it anymore. |
| greytfriend | I dropped the few people who plurked only about karma or for karma, so that's that for me. |
| Keli | I would like to see an *on vacation* option...could you consider that? |
| greytfriend | it's just a game. A lot of people obviously care about the game, so why not make it a bit more fun. Also, why not have some goals for the |
| greytfriend | folk with high karma since after 50 there's really nothing |
| jflanigan | says | That is still unacceptable.You need to consider a formula where it stop dropping at some point or drops less than you are capable of gaining |
| jflanigan | says | social media tools should not demand that people not take time for their lives offline. |
| unmistakable | says | now I understand everything... |
| unmistakable | says | but make it 24! |
| Olivia Bell | says | I think amix has said his piece. I'm sure if they feel it should be changed then they will. |
| daysies | says | awww! i wish you made these changes before i went on vacation! but hey, i'll take what we can get! thanks! |
| daysies | says | i think karma is fun... i just don't dwell on it too much like some people |
| Aletta | wonders | if amix knows how much she appreciates this gesture - at 20 karmas I need all the help available out there! Thanks again |
| beminedesign |
| jeayese | says | LEGEND! |
| PunchcardMafia | was | just saying that this should be implemented! Thanks amix! |
| Telperion |
| captainstardust | wishes | it were 24 but certainly thinks this is an improvement! |
| LChamp | says | well, that's a start! |
| AsKatKnits | says | amix is awesome!! Thanks for this great gift!! |
| metaweb | loves | that we can now have 8 hours to sleep without interruption |
| Madame Maracas | THANK YOU! |
| BarbaraKB | Make Karma Optional @ Get Satisfaction amix encourages comments there. Thanx! |
| Kaji | says | Yay! Now I don't have to worry about losing while I'm at work anymore! Used to post from work, then it got blocked... |
| patricksweeney | says | wow, amix is one HELL of an awesome guy people. Calm down. You right, we do have lives and it affects my karma. So what? I have a ton of fun |
| patricksweeney | says | with Plurk....just enjoy it! |
| kasnj | says |
| TheBadMonkey |
| digitaltodd | thinks | thats great... |
| Baccara | gives | BIG CHEER !!! |
| unl33t | says |
| dcousineau | says | thank god! |
| LChamp | says | donnellyaa: I don't care about karma, but I like plurk and would hate to see them fail because they anger their users so they leave. |
| patricksweeney | says | LChamp: I'd say most of us agree with the changes though. I only like this service more and more each day. They actually listen to users! |
| patricksweeney | says | amix: excellent job! |
| tamar | how about 2 days? i'm religious and i'm offline every single friday to saturday night for 25 hours. |
| Zappa | says | sweeeeeeeeeet!!!! |
| AbleReach | says | news flash: plurk recognizes SLEEP! |
| Telemill | Thank you. |
| DebInAustin | says | that's great! |
| honeydo | says | THANK YOU |
| Kerstin | says |
| SarahTM2TS | Thank you, thank you, thank you!! |
| Athena Grey | says | awesome change. Hopefully it will cut down on meaningless plurks to preserve karma. |
| EdVentures | says | SUH-WEEET! tks dude! |
| wigwam2theorem | says |
| boris | says | 24 |
| ChrisHumphries | says | wow, people kiss your erm.. feet like a golden god. |
| BarbaraKB | search to find others who have dropped Plurk 'cuz of Karma search.twitter.com/search?q=plurk+karma |
| ChrisHumphries | says | who cares what people use. |
| ChrisHumphries | says | the only people that care is the company that develops the software and hopes to make decent profits. what do the rest of us care? |
| spyros | says | I agree. Make it 24. More reasonable |
| horribilis | says | Wow! Thanks! That's going to make a big difference. |
| Juniorjunior | says |
| deinera | says | I know people want it 24, and etc. I'm thankful for this change. So thank you for at least giving us the 12 hours. Finally... FINALLY my |
| deinera | says | plurk karma might stay up a little bit |
| planetKnit | is |
| tamar | when my karma drops under 60 or whatever.. |
| Hannanana | says | karma really isn't important. I mean that's not really what plurk is about, it's about staying connected with friends. |
| RogueTess | thanks for the wonderful, reasonable coding! You guys rock! |
| MissM | says | this is a great improvement. Thank you! |
| PlurkingPoppa | asks | that you explain what "inactive" means? if I engage in conversation by replying to other plurks, does that qualify? ie no plurks? |
| shooting* | thank you |
| DubDubDub144 | says | Plurk wouldn't be Plurk, without Karma. |
| CubmasterJoe | says | Yeah without Karma it just be a kick butt version of Twitter.Oh Wait |
| Mrs Groovy | says | thank you. |
| Ç✿LLÈÉN | says | YAY!!! |
| fizzgig_sh | says | Was 4 hours and is now 12, way to go, that is 200% gain. You Beauty. I am a Karma fan. (atm) |
| fizzgig_sh | says | PlurkingPoppa replying to other plurks is active. imho |
| PlurkingPoppa | thanks fizzgig_sh for guessing but thinks that users deserve more clarity from the developers. |
| bunneh | wonders | why his karma dropped after only 7 hours away though... albeit a smaller drop than normal |
| pinkparis | mine is dropped though i'm not online just for few hours |
| skraggy | has | seen several people's karma drop inexplicably in the last day when they were still active. |
| amix | activity is only one parameter of karma - more help can be seen here www.plurk.com/Help/karmaHelp |
| CT Xue | still has a problem with this--Plurk makes it very unfair yet for the people over 80 and 90 Karma that have done so much for Plurk already.. |
| CT Xue | your max gain for me is restricted to 0.02 (6*0.02=0.12/day) yet it can drop 0.16 (2*0.16=0.32) If I lose once, I cannot catch up ever |
| jason | thinks | we all have choices. and yes, my karma is over 80, but i went through some of the rough times as well - |
| jason | thinks | it's not live or die anyway, it's for fun - plurk for fun, not for karma, and eventually, the karma will come. |
| jason | asks | if you sit and watch water boil to watch it boil, or if it's something that you do to cook food... |
| CT Xue | will | open or add to a getsat. thread for this--If we want plurk to be interesting, this penalty for top plurkers should be lessened as has their |
| CT Xue | max gain. That's an unfair neglect...I was only inactive for 10 hours and lost 0.16...in that case, it's a -0.20 favor against us. Thkx |
| FabioBracht | says | I can't understand how people turn karma into such a big deal. I have 41.61 now and no idea of how much I had yesterday. I enjoy the people. |
| danielduende | says | thank you very much. |
| danielduende | says | but I can't understand these people that turn karma in their goal in every service they use, too. i'm here for the conversations... |
| jason | says | ... and i'm pretty sure i never cried about it. to plurk, or not to plurk. i choose plurk. |
| lizard.beer | not to whine, but i have been active no less than once in every 4 hr. period the last 2 days and had karma drops *while i was active*. |
| lizard.beer | in other words, i'm up plurking 'till 2 AM, and in the 5AM update, i lose points. is plurk telling me to go to bed at a decent hour? |
| RogueTess | believes this is not working as advertised as of right now. |
| boris | says | me too... |
| saxmangeoff | says | same here. I plurked a bit this morning, but nowhere near 30 plurks, and my karma has gone down. |
| lizard.beer | i have a theory. for the couple days prior, i missed karma periods each day and no drop. then, when i did not miss any, it went down on the |
| lizard.beer | ... sixth straight time period. i wonder if that's by design, or a side effect of changing it to 12 hours? hmmm. |
| ThatDude | I don't think this is working. The more active I've been the more my karma has gone down. |
| amix | like i stated before activeness is only one parameter, en example: if friends unfollow you, your karma will be lowered |
| skraggy | says | ya, got hit with negative now too... 9 hours between plurks, lost no friends, lost no fans, even gained one during that period. |
| skraggy | says | first time I've seen a negative number in weeks. |
| SarahTM2TS | amix, I honestly don't think you're listening. People who are active, aren't losing friends/fans/followers are *still* losing karma. |
| DubDubDub144 | says | Its the randomness factor. Happens to me as well. Active, adding friends, changing profile, getting responses, but occasionally lose -.05 |
| DubDubDub144 | says | Think that I will live. |
| Kaji | says | Theoretically spamming will get you lowered as well. Too much replying, perhaps? |
| DubDubDub144 | says | No. But I do have a thread friends have hijacked, and I think folks are muting. Not much I can do tho... |
| bunneh | says | i think this is affecting too many people to be dismissed as just 'other factors'. it's all too consistent |
| SarahTM2TS | I agree with bunneh ... 2 users I have on my list are consistent plurkers, have consistent gains in everything, I doubt any losses, and has |
| SarahTM2TS | lost karma. The algo is borked, and I'm tired of getting the runaround about it. |
| tfl | says | sounds fair |
| AZJazzyJ | says | it looks like a Get Satisfaction thread was created. Maybe post there with details so they can look at it. |
| eztephen | surprisingly, my life and the world around me manages to survive without karma. maybe that's true karma, or zen. |
| PlurkingPoppa | amix: it's you that's full of BS ... the only thing that never breaks around here is the karma penalty. |
| CT Xue | thinks | it's sad that changes were made to reduce the max gains to 0.01 in the middle of this all, yet the loss is still at 0.16 |
| quantro | asks |
| DubDubDub144 | says | Its a race that has already been won. So it takes a little longer to get to 100. Good karma will still balance out just below Nirvana. If |
| DubDubDub144 | says | you go slightly above & beyond, you will pass Nirvana. If you miss a bit, you will fall, but you can get it up again. Taking this WAY too |
| DubDubDub144 | says | seriously. It's meant to be a reinforcement, not something you see a counselor over... |
| yoyocici12345 | is | hi |
| yoyocici12345 | is | how to get a profile like this? |
| Christian•크리스챈 | says | so why the heck did my karma drop even if I'm active? And no, I wasn't spamming. |
| Ardhi | kind oflate but all i can say is karma do make users come back often just to update his/her plurk |
| Kaji | says | flameoftears: I think being unfriended also drops your karma. On an unrelated note, why are you posting on a plurk this old, anyway? |
| Kaji | says | The interval has been upped to 24 hours for some time now. |
| Kaji | says | It's actually a little bit more than that now, even (tested it by accident a couple days ago). Just watch the dev accounts to see when they |
| Kaji | says | make changes to the system. |
| Jedi_kristian | says |
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