| Jane Chin | thinks | the more connected we are to external influences, the less connected we become to our inner self. Does this explain the connection paradox? |
Aug 30, 2008 -
06:39PM
| Jane Chin | thinks | the more connected we are to external influences, the less connected we become to our inner self. Does this explain the connection paradox? |
| Jane Chin | since we're linked up plugged in via the internet and daily gadgets but we can't find our way back to ourselves if our lives depended on it. |
| DS♥ | is | not sure he buys the "limited # of connections" implied by your statement. |
| beminedesign | thinks | sometimes connecting with the external is a distraction from the internal. Sometimes it helps clarify the internal. It's about focus. |
| MackCollier | says | Jane I love you, but you ask too many hard questions  |
| beminedesign | |
| Jane Chin | sorry mackcollier! |
| Jane Chin | CHiC I hadn't looked at that (self connect not profitable), but really, the most profitable biz come from individual passions |
| frankmartin | says | janechin, I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion - there's nothing to suggest to me that the connection to oneself |
| onepinktee | says | actually, I'm not sure I believe that - I've found myself more connected to my inner self, not less |
| frankmartin | says | shrinks with the number or the extent of external connectedness |
| KDFrawg❤ | says | No. |
| frankmartin | says | I think it's an individual thing... |
| Jane Chin | maybe I didn't qualify the question properly, I was looking at connecting to the outside as a distraction. Ex. I spend a lot of time on the |
| Jane Chin | internet as well, but I know there are many times when I am surfing or plurking bc I'm avoiding something difficult |
| Jane Chin | when distractions become accessible, then it becomes easier to be fully distracted. |
| onepinktee | says | I see your point - and I think that distraction has always been accessible - books, food, TV, etc. |
| onepinktee | says | I think the difference is that the external connections feel different - you're not "alone" |
| Jane Chin | onepinktee right - i'm using "connection" in a couple of diff ways, one being "logistically/mechanically" the other more spiritual sense |
| frankmartin | says | I feel "connected" to people here I have never met personally, but whom I feel as if I know |
| Jane Chin | hence, my shortcoming in asking the right question in this case |
| frankmartin | says | And this **helps** me connect with myself - as friends typically do |
| Jane Chin | frankmartin i have experienced the same! |
| Jane Chin | uh... so did you answer your own question? |
| Jane Chin | for some of us we need to first love others in order to believe we can give the same to ourselves, even as we are the source of that love |
| Jane Chin | but due to social conditioning or other factors, we learn to deprive ourselves of the same love we can give, and in some cases, |
| Jane Chin | treat ourselves worse than we'd treat a beloved pet. |
| Jane Chin | the master asked her if she really loves anyone, and she said her nephew. the master suggested that she meditate on her love for her |
| Jane Chin | nephew. this is an example of the act of loving another that leads us back to loving ourselves. |
| Jane Chin | yep! gilbert definitely referenced a similar story (same one probably), and i loved her own re: her nephew. |
| Jane Chin | the final phase of god consciousness is annihilation of the ego, surrendering. hence "for another" would make sense. |
| Starman1 | says | Some of the discussion presented here is remarkably contained in the publications of Joseph Campbell . |
| Starman1 | says | The link I plurked there takes you to the Joseph Campbell Foundation for more reference material. I highly suggest reading |
| Starman1 | says | some of his works. You may know him from the TV Series presented *Joseph Campbell with Bill Moyer*. |
| Jane Chin | i love that series. the defn of "bliss" i go by is campbell's "what makes you feel most alive" |
| Starman1 | says | exactly!  |
| Starman1 | says | one of my fav quotes of J. Campbell is: "Find a place (inside) where there's joy, and the joy will burn out the pain." |
| Starman1 | says | |
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