August 13, 2008 at 19:02DebInDenversaystrying to spread my clients throughout the country so I don't rely on any one economy. I am worried that Denver's economy will take a dive
August 13, 2008 at 19:02DebInDenversaysafter the DNC, so want to make sure I am not just rooted here in Denver.
August 13, 2008 at 19:01patricksweeneysaysputting my head between my legs and kissing my ass goodbye! Nah, just trying to get my head above water for now.
August 13, 2008 at 19:05AnitaKstop eating and driving? I wish I had cash to put into stocks now...
August 13, 2008 at 19:07DaisỵΜ∞nsaysgo no where, wear old clothes, eat nothing Seems to be the only way to survive some days
August 13, 2008 at 19:12athorpDaisy - if you eat nothing, you'll need new clothes!
August 13, 2008 at 19:12athorpI stay home a whole lot more. I also planted a vegetable garden this summer.
August 13, 2008 at 19:15DaisỵΜ∞nsaysathorp tie them on with string-belts
August 13, 2008 at 19:18JaneChinyou think stocks are a good way to go bc prices are low and for sure they'll go up?
August 13, 2008 at 19:17JaneChinhm... my 401k keeps dropping and i stopped looking at the #'s. too depressing.
August 13, 2008 at 19:25RenegadeScribesaysI'm thinking of stealing gas and selling it on the black market.
August 13, 2008 at 19:43JaneChinLewis since i'm an entrepreneur the 410k is parked there (no employer contrib). i do have a SEP
August 13, 2008 at 20:25SandyBBerrysayswe are cutting back on eating out.
August 13, 2008 at 20:26Lloyd Lemonssayssimplify (even more) drive less, bike more, diet, fewer restaurants, no malls, maybe sell a car
August 13, 2008 at 20:28RenegadeScribesaysSeriously, we've tried to minimize driving, lessen the amount of times we eat out, make sure to buy gas at Costco, and put the thermostat
August 13, 2008 at 20:29RenegadeScribesaysup almost to 80
August 13, 2008 at 20:43Glyphrunnersaysno A/C in the summer, heat set at minimum of thermostat in winter, recycle clothing and try to reuse materials where possible.
August 13, 2008 at 20:42GlyphrunnersaysAlso trying to find at least one if not three more jobs to provide more income. I can sleep when I'm dead.
August 13, 2008 at 20:44JaneChinDebInDenver is your biz conductive to remote operations? I think PR should be.
August 13, 2008 at 20:51DebInDenversaysyes Jane, I could pretty much work anywhere, with some travel required. I try to meet as many journalists as possible to keep the
August 13, 2008 at 20:52DebInDenversaysrelationship going. And now that I am doing more SM, want to meet as many people as possible at conferences, etc.
August 13, 2008 at 20:52Suninthecityi have foregone seeing my family (an hour away), eating out, going far for groceries, and not going to my son's jiu jitsu class (30 min)
August 13, 2008 at 20:53Suninthecitythere have been other sacrifices, too. i see this might become a blog post
August 13, 2008 at 22:43LChampsaysI planned for many years to retire early. retired at 55. now is the time for me to preserve capital not gamble on the markets. no concern
August 14, 2008 at 04:20JaneChinLChamp your case is rare now; many are "unretiring" bc they can no longer afford retirement :|
August 14, 2008 at 13:38Walterthinksfar too many Americans spend their money on depreciable toys.
August 14, 2008 at 13:41iheartbobbybsaysNot going to lie, the future of the nation scares me to death. It's scary where everything is heading...
August 14, 2008 at 13:43daringdsays............ sigh ... so wat can we do now?
August 14, 2008 at 13:44LChampsaysiheartbobbyb: the future is in your hands...don't just stand there, do something!
August 14, 2008 at 13:47daringdsaysis it true that the worst is yet to come? :S
August 14, 2008 at 13:47iheartbobbybsaysLChamp: this is true. you're right, I
August 14, 2008 at 13:47iheartbobbybsays*I've got to do something about it!
August 14, 2008 at 13:48Nexeussaysmake. more, money
August 14, 2008 at 13:55JaneChinNexeus any suggestions on how to make more money?
August 14, 2008 at 14:31Waltersaysin all of human history, there's only been a middle class for the last 60 years. And now it's shrinking. Yikes.
August 14, 2008 at 14:32daringdsayswat do u mean, Walter? it sounds scary
August 14, 2008 at 14:55JaneChini saw on news that many people who bought houses in 2006 may actually have "negative" equity right now
August 14, 2008 at 15:01WaltersaysJane, not just "many" -- it's more like 1/3! tinyurl.com/55y36z
August 14, 2008 at 15:04JaneChinCA as usual tops 'em all - lose 80+% of equity - I remember a few yrs ago inland empire was being developed like crazy, many moved there
August 14, 2008 at 15:06Waltersaysdaringd: It's called the middle-class squeeze. And yes, it is scary. is.gd/1rBC
August 14, 2008 at 15:06JaneChinhm... i'm checking willow; and one home in our neighborhood sold for $805K built in 1989. that's not bad I guess.
August 14, 2008 at 15:07JaneChinWalter I agree that the middle class is being squeezed. How much of the "total squeeze" is due to policy, how much due to personal choice?
August 14, 2008 at 15:07JaneChini.e. buying cars you can't afford, home too big for your budget, new wardrobe every season, vacations and cruises etc on credit.
August 14, 2008 at 15:12LChampsaysIt's called personal responsibility. I am responsible for my actions. If I buy something I can't afford, I can't complain about it.
August 14, 2008 at 15:17daringdsaysthat i agree, LChamp
August 14, 2008 at 15:16Waltersaysit is primarily due to personal choice, compounded by changes in global economic factors, allowing less room for errors in our choices.
August 14, 2008 at 15:18Waltersaysit used to be easier to dig out of debt. But now with millions of off-shore workers willing to do our job at 1/3 the cost, it isn't so easy.
August 14, 2008 at 15:24JaneChinWalter i think it's a catch 22 as well. consumers want cheaper price for premium products. then complain that jobs are being lost to worker
August 14, 2008 at 15:25JaneChins who CAN make cheaper prices possible. which gives?
August 14, 2008 at 15:25daringdsaysya .. agree with JaneChin. Catch 22. haiz...
August 14, 2008 at 15:28JaneChinalso, it depends on the type of biz. manufacturing gets hit the hardest, bc of fixed COGS and offshoring prevents increased prices
August 14, 2008 at 15:30daringdsaysthere's always opportunities in time of crisis, what do you think the opportunities that exists or will exist in near future?
August 14, 2008 at 15:29WaltersaysWe over-consumer. Consume less, and you don't need to demand lower prices.
August 14, 2008 at 15:30WaltersaysI'm totaly cool with giving jobs to the those who can do it the least expensively. That's good for everyone.
August 14, 2008 at 15:30Waltersays(Except for the union guy who was getting paid $50k a year for sweeping a factory floor.)
August 14, 2008 at 15:35JaneChinWalter i hear you. i understand that unions aim to protect workers, but with all organizations some power can be abused.
August 14, 2008 at 15:40Waltersayshaving visited approx 40 different manufacturing sites, both union and non, I can say unions have done significant harm to US manufacturing.
August 14, 2008 at 15:43daringdsayssignificant harm? why is it so?
August 14, 2008 at 15:42LChampsaysWalter, in my opinion, the unions have priced us out of the market...losing jobs, but protecting union managers
August 14, 2008 at 15:44daringdsayshmmm.... nvr see it that way. not many union thingie in Singapore
August 14, 2008 at 15:45JaneChindaringd i'm pretty sure singapore companies wouldn't allow unions LOL
August 14, 2008 at 15:47daringdsayshahaha..... :p except for certain industry like the airline. they sure have hehe. :p
August 14, 2008 at 15:49Nexeussaysjanechin I always believe that the service industry, particularly tech services and freelance help
August 14, 2008 at 15:49Nexeussaysjanechin so, web design, programming, technical help, installation, etc. that really helps a lot
August 14, 2008 at 15:49Nexeussaysjanechin maybe even consultation. Those, IMO are relatively recession proof - there's always going to be biz there.
August 14, 2008 at 15:50JaneChini'm not sure daringd... singapore airlines can get away with not hiring a woman bc she's too old or not pretty enough. not here in the US
August 14, 2008 at 15:51daringdsaysoh!!! tat's true. hmm .... Singapore is a v biz oriented country. As long as it makes profit , that matters in the end.
August 14, 2008 at 16:19JaneChinNexeus makes sense; I was recently a consultant
August 14, 2008 at 17:27ForgeAussaysWalter wasn't quite right, they also spend them on disposable goods not just depreciable toys lol!
August 14, 2008 at 17:33WalterForgeAus Right! They'd better enjoy their Starbucks now, because they'll be drinking McCafe in retirement.