| Jane Chin | shares | what I've been contemplating last week: Fame doesn't build your self-esteem; instead, fame tests your self-esteem. I really believe this. |
Aug 05, 2008 -
03:56PM
| Jane Chin | shares | what I've been contemplating last week: Fame doesn't build your self-esteem; instead, fame tests your self-esteem. I really believe this. |
| beminedesign | I agree Jane. |
| JustJen | I completely agree. What happens when the spotlight is off is what defines who you are and what your character is made of |
| Myrnaslist | says | oh tests much more than self esteem  |
| Myrnaslist | says | we are SO NOT our fame |
| Jane Chin | asks | have you all seen as i have that many still believe "if i'm successful then i'll feel better about myself" (or if i buy X or make $Y salary) |
| Jane Chin | says | even though we all know this makes sense, social pressure makes us believe in the opposite. (at least I did and I was miserable) |
| DebInAustin | says | or, "if I just had more money, everything would be OK." |
| beminedesign | yes, I know people who think that. It's a shame. They expend so much energy trying to get there when it won't bring happiness. |
| Myrnaslist | says | "only way to achieve true joy and fulfillment is by becoming a being of sharing" |
| DaveWebb | feels | that lots of fame & fortune can often lead to heartache for many people, because they have a hard time passing the test. |
| beminedesign | and they find it didn't bring happiness after all. |
| Jane Chin | asks | then where is our disconnect? we intellectually know fame/$ doesn't lead to "fulfillment" at the deepest level, yet much of our behavior |
| Jane Chin | asks | show the opposite beliefs. |
| Jane Chin | says | i.e. what DebInDenver said. |
| LivSimpl.com | says | I think the same could be said for money/wealth. |
| LindaZ | says | tied into one bundle pple think if they have fame, they will have more money and be wealthy... which as we all know does not always mean... |
| LindaZ | says | high self-esteem |
| LindaZ | says | magazines, tv and just watching others from the outside gives pple false impression of happiness and self-esteem... they think that the |
| LindaZ | says | outside representation of a person's life is how they feel... as we all know it is not always the case |
| Jane Chin | says | lindazimmer well said. based on how much TV people watch, it's hard not to have some of that message infiltrate. |
| DS♥ | john belushi, janis joplin, kurt cobain are all examples of that. |
| DS♥ | external validation is a killer |
| LindaZ | says | the messages we receive from society are not all true... we grow up believing in fairy tales, for women some day our prince will show up... |
| LindaZ | says | it is meant to be and we will live happily every after is another one... just like we will have self-esteem when we are rich & famous |
| LindaZ | says | I totally agree with Jane's initial statement fame tests self esteem |
| LindaZ | says | wait a minute... I celebrate men and think all the men in my life are kings... I just don't believe life is a fairy tale  |
| Jane Chin | says | i mean ALL of the truth). like "why are you leaving your company?" oh... for growth opportunities instead of "my boss sucks" |
| LindaZ | says | these concepts of fame=wealth=self-esteem... |
| affiliatecoffee | says | self esteem is required in the first place to get fame. after that,either it(self esteem) goes up or down-depends on the individual entirely |
| Jane Chin | says | maybe we don't have the "right idea" about self esteem either. doesn't always mean "feel great about self". when i was suffering from |
| Jane Chin | says | clinical depression, trust me, i felt like i was crap. but for some reason i didn't want to give up on myself either (came close). so if you |
| Jane Chin | says | asked me if i had self esteem back then, i'd say "no" but in retrospect, maybe not giving up on yourself IS self esteem. not the "feel good |
| Jane Chin | says | type of hype" we're fed a lot of today. |
| DS♥ | couldn't get off the couch when i had clinical d |
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