pinkpau asks what would be a good laptop for me to get? i need something that's not flimsy and can take some hardcore usage. games, too! any suggestions?

256 responses to this plurk.

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  August 03, 2008 at 20:56 alvin says i'm getting a macbook pro and since 'price' is not in your list of criteria, i think it might be worth considering.
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  August 04, 2008 at 00:52 wuichi says this one is good too HP Pavilion dv2800 Artist Entertainment Notebook PC series h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/me/en/ho/WF05a/321957-321957-3329744-64354-64354-3744601.html
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:03 ionStorm™ says what do you mean when you say hardcore usage? extended hours? being tossed around? or something that can take a bullet?
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:04 ionStorm™ says what kind of games are you going to play? is weight/size a concern to you? used mostly at home or in "Starbucks"?
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:04 ionStorm™ says what's your budget?
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:14 naeboo says lowyat having slashed prices for laptops now but older models.. no vista of coz
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:16 reallybites says since u wanna play games, i think mac is kinda out of the quest unless you meant games like Word challenge. y
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:15 reallybites says you planning to get it here or over there?
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:17 ionStorm™ says i recommendz -- www.sonystyle.com.my/product/productinfo_vaio.asp?Subcategoryid=174
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:16 naeboo says sony too flimsy
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:17 naeboo says and u will be paying for the branding with the extra 1k u plonk on it
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:17 ionStorm™ says or dis one (red edition) -- www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/featuresdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=my&l=en&s=dhs&cs=mydhs1&~lt=popup&~tab=designtab
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:18 naeboo says dell even worse! banyak complaints!
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:19 ionStorm™ says if you don't mind something bigger...can try this www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/laptop_studio_15?c=my&cs=mydhs1&l=en&s=dhs
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:18 ionStorm™ says apa complain la...i use so many Dell in my office...and summo got CompleteCover. got problem, call then they come to your doorstep
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:20 ionStorm™ says Dell also got 14 days money-back. dun like, give back lo.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:21 naeboo offices use dell coz cheap what
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:22 ionStorm™ says dream on la. clone is cheap. i build those things. you want cheap, go get Acer.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:26 naeboo acer lagi tak boleh
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:26 naeboo hatessss
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:27 naeboo im thinking compaq, hp or fujitsu
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:26 ionStorm™ says don't be duped into thinking those are any bette.r
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:28 ionStorm™ says anyways, as far as i'm concerned, i choose a dell because they give awesome support.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:28 ionStorm™ says they'll come to your doorstep pretty much anywhere in the world. and they'll replace the faulty component at no charge.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:30 ionStorm™ says provided you take CompleteCover.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:30 naeboo i got quite a few frens working in dell. they all hates u btw.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:32 ionStorm™ says wtv.
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  August 04, 2008 at 01:51 ☢artreyu says don't recommend sony laptops..overpriced
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:34 ionStorm™ says that...is true of anything with substantial style.
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:39 naeboo style is not bought. u have it or u dont
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:38 ☢artreyu says nah..i think sony's lappies are fugly..nothing to shout about
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:38 ☢artreyu says but that is my personal opinion la
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:41 ionStorm™ says to each his own.
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:55 Kitothewoodrat says the best laptop brand that gives all that you have mentioned and still priced reasonably without compromising the quality of it is ASUS.
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  August 04, 2008 at 02:57 Kitothewoodrat says if you are into serious gaming(which I doubt), check out their gaming series but if not any of their laptops is sufficient for your needs.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:00 Kitothewoodrat says but of coz, price wise, it is slightly more ex compared to ACER and DELL but quality wise its on par(maybe better) with SONY,FUJITSU etc.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:01 naeboo says yep. asus is the choice of gamers
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:00 naeboo says toshiba also a good option
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:01 Kitothewoodrat feels that at the end of the day, its down to what you are comfortable with,so don't be lazy and go check out all the model yourself
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:02 ☢artreyu says anyway laptops are not meant for gaming...XD
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:03 naeboo says well,asus is the choice for gaming if u can only buy a laptop and not both pc and lappy what
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:03 Kitothewoodrat agrees with both art and nae
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:05 ionStorm™ says i would prefer alienware...but you'd have to import.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:05 ionStorm™ says for laptop gaming that is.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:04 naeboo says alienware too exp lar. compared to asus
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:06 Kitothewoodrat feels that alienware is overrated... its just the same as any clones in lau yat...
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:07 ionStorm™ says spec for spec, is still reasonable. if you get something with SLI graphics, then it will be expensive.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:07 Kitothewoodrat has a friend who bought alienware and is seriously regretting the sudden splurge of money...
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:07 ionStorm™ says don't think any of the clones have any SLI options.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:08 ionStorm™ says doesn't mean the laptop was not worth it what.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:08 ☢artreyu says clones as in laps or desks?
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:08 Kitothewoodrat says hahaha, yes ion, point taken but as I said, its overrated not NOT worth it.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:10 Kitothewoodrat says art, clones as in laps.
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:10 naeboo says but at least can trade in ur old pcs/laps
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:11 ☢artreyu says ahhhh...ok ok..haha a bit lur for a moment there
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  August 04, 2008 at 03:11 ☢artreyu says *blur
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:02 crazystrat says the most important thing to consider is the OS, not the price or specs. You sure you want to be stuck with Vista?
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:15 ionStorm™ says methinks Vista is ok...as long as you give yourself some time to settle down with it.
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:40 naeboo says need at least 3G ram ler
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:42 ionStorm™ says you only need that much ram if you're doing graphic/photo/video editing or 3D/CAD...
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:44 naeboo says no ley. so many complaints abt it jamming even for normal use if under 3G RAM
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:49 ionStorm™ says perhaps that was before (sp1). haven't heard anything ram related from my friends.
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:50 naeboo says i wont trust microsoft that much
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:55 reallybites says i'm using vista ultimate with 2gb RAM and my ram usage has always been below 60%. so 2gb is more than enough.
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:55 ionStorm™ says try it for yourself la. don't have to listen to what other ppl say...
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:56 crazystrat says saw a very brave singaporean brand UMPC that runs Vista Home Premium with 1G ram and 800mhz cpu. two tabs open on IE and it starts lagging.
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:56 naeboo says i dont have 3-4k to TRY and be angry laters
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:57 ionStorm™ says then u take other ppl's rant as the holy grail meh
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:59 naeboo says u take ur 3k go try lor. dont use mine
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  August 04, 2008 at 05:59 ionStorm™ says i already have pc. i just haven't upgraded to vista coz i'm lazy. i dunnit to try to tell you that the need for 3GB RAM is a myth.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:10 Kitothewoodrat says lol, I see a heated argument on Vista and RAM. Well to set things straight: 1G RAM is the min required and lags and crashes are inevitable..
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:11 naeboo says alw take what microsoft says with a spoon of salt
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:11 Kitothewoodrat says 2G RAM is good enough for smooth sailing usage. Not much lags and definitely does not crash so easily unless you overclock it like me...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:12 naeboo says it says 1G u take 3G
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:13 Kitothewoodrat says 3G RAM.. please.. unless you are a serious gamer or you do graphics... kindly remind me the reason why 3G is in this discussion again...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:14 naeboo says crashes and laggings for normal use
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:16 Kitothewoodrat says and honestly speaking... lately... i'm starting to hate windows vista.. its personal.. but to be fair, i give it an A+ for looks (only)
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:17 naeboo says i dont like using it also
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:17 Kitothewoodrat says that also a lil reminder here, there are still some progs that do not work so well with vista causing lags and crashes.. bummer..
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:19 Kitothewoodrat says naeboo, guess we both feel the same here.. and for the so called user friendliness they are so proud about... trust me... its superficial...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:20 ☢artreyu says hmm so far it is ok with me..well i dun do much with my pc le...no heavy graphics....played crysis via vista..ok in medium settings.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:21 ☢artreyu says i bet the one u saw about vista having frequent crashes is for the 64bit
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:21 Kitothewoodrat thinks for stability XP is still the best... but for showcase wise (fashion and looks and what not) VISTA lah...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:20 naeboo says fucking hates it. *BIAS*
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:21 ionStorm™ says i'll agree with XP being the best...unfortunately, people have to get used to Vista, because XP is phased out. in a couple years,
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:22 ionStorm™ says there will be no more patches.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:22 naeboo says methinks the most "stable" o/s from microsoft is windows ME and XP lor comparatively
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:21 ionStorm™ says might as well get used to it now.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:23 ☢artreyu says hmm well its new..so..bound to have glitches here and there..i remember when XP was first out...i swear by windows 98
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:24 naeboo says XP came out i was using ME.. still using XP hehe
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:23 Kitothewoodrat agrees with ion totally.. like it or not, its time to embrace vista.. we have to move forward, and despite the glitches, vista is still ok.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:24 naeboo says not if ur office doesnt wanna upgrade!!
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:25 ☢artreyu says well....in a year..all will be using vista..whether u like it or not...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:26 Kitothewoodrat is still not so happy with vista's 'fake' user friendliness... its so superficial that if you pry it open.. you will realize it isn't so...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:26 ionStorm™ says office will have to upgrade...eventually. can only hold out for so long.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:26 ☢artreyu says hmm how un-user friendly?
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:27 ionStorm™ says i'm not happy with vista either...but i wanna play games. the day i stop playing games, i'll settle for a Mac.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:27 ☢artreyu says i dunno..so far..i encounter no problem with vista....*touch wood*
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:27 ionStorm™ says no need touch wood. its not as problematic as people make it out to be.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:28 ionStorm™ says i personally think its still a piece of junk. it feels very clunky.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:28 smashpop says id suggest you get a macbook pro. seriously.. give it a try and ull neever look back.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:29 ionStorm™ says she said games though...but didn't mention what games.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:29 Kitothewoodrat says that Mac is definitely my choice the instant I grow out of my gaming era...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:28 ionStorm™ says do you think pinkpau plays WoW?
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:29 Kitothewoodrat says user-Unfriendliness as in when you wish to change certain settings and find that they seem to bury it even further and harder to find...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:29 ☢artreyu says hahaha agree with u Kitothewoodrat
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:30 ionStorm™ says this thread is so hot.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:30 ☢artreyu says hmmm...is Mac overrated?
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:30 ionStorm™ says imho, no but i feel its a little overpriced.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:31 ☢artreyu says not a little..very..10k for a mac......man..u can make downpayment for my house edi
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:32 Kitothewoodrat don't think that it is overrated but yeah... it IS overpriced... VERY overpriced...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:31 Kitothewoodrat says and that is the SOLE reason why I still don't own one... sob sob...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:33 ☢artreyu says same here...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:34 ionStorm™ says don't go for the pro lah. you can get a decent macbook for under 5k.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:37 ☢artreyu says spec to spec..it is still overpriced if compared to windows lappie
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:36 naeboo says u dont knw my office.im using a 3yo pc and i think they want me to use 3yrs more
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:38 ionStorm™ says but you're not running Win98. you're running WinXP. it will be another 3 years before MS stops issuing updates for XP.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:40 ☢artreyu says i thought they already stop after SP3?
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:41 ionStorm™ says after factoring in all the stuff that don't usually come in windows pc hardware...you realize that a macbook is not THAT severely overprice.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:40 naeboo says that means i will use this pc for another 6yrs!!! then, when i actually use vista, i wld be so having S/O shock!
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:42 ☢artreyu says it is..
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:42 ionStorm™ says there might not be an SP4, but there will still be updates. MS issues updates for an OS for 5 years after it is phased out.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:42 ionStorm™ says use vista at home first lor...then no shocked.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:42 ☢artreyu says i mean..mac is still very overprices...it is more of a novelty than an actual necessity...graphics ppl aside
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:46 naeboo says no lar. by that time,im sure im using a mac ald or sthg
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:45 naeboo says linux even!
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:49 Kitothewoodrat says that the reason MAC is so expensive is coz they take charge of all the hardware their comp uses unlike normal PCs using windows..
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:48 Kitothewoodrat says and hence MAC's stability in performance... so although it is over priced (ok... very) it is kinda justified...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:50 ionStorm™ says a couple of reasons why i like the Macbook...proper firewire port (not the 4 pin crap!), s-ips panels, magsafe, iLife
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:51 Kitothewoodrat says i still hope to own a MAC soon... *prays to god for sudden luck in winning lottery...*
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:50 naeboo says also coz less ppl buying mac=costlier production
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:52 ionStorm™ says oh...and Macs actually have DVI ports, while most windows notebooks only have analog VGA. you can't drive a 24" LCD with analog.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:54 ionStorm™ says Apple could easily have reduced the price of their notebooks and sell more, which would in turn generate higher quantity.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:54 ionStorm™ says which leads me to believe that the pricing is intentional and won't go down, even if more people buy Macs.
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:55 Kitothewoodrat says yes... tell that to apple... oh do please...
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:56 naeboo says aksi marr.. they generating more income with ipods
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:56 ☢artreyu says well an analogy....u can still drive a car with the basic spec..but..Mac is like a car packed in..shiftronic gears...cruise control..
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  August 04, 2008 at 06:57 ☢artreyu says 10 cd changer...ipod port....
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:07 naeboo says pc=kancil, mac=merc
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:07 naeboo says easier kan>?
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:08 ☢artreyu says not so big a difference la
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:11 crazystrat says Macs are not expensive if compared to PCs of the same spec. Macbooks start at 3899. laptops below 3k are just stripped out units - no point.
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:13 naeboo says brevity mar!
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:15 ☢artreyu says with 3899..i think u can get a better spec laps compare to mac.....but with that said..if i'm rich enuff..i'll get a mac too
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:21 ionStorm™ says if you only look at basic numbers like proc speed, ram and hdd...then you could probably get a pc for alot cheaper.
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:22 ionStorm™ says you need to take the entire package into consideration, as well as other details not specifically mentioned.
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:29 ☢artreyu says yeah..as i said..mac include alot of stuff..that u don't usually need..
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:37 crazystrat says artreyu: like what?
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:39 naeboo says cup holder
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:39 ☢artreyu says hahaha
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:38 naeboo says maggi cheese ensembler
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:39 naeboo says earmuff warmer
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:39 naeboo says condom packet shedder
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:39 ☢artreyu says
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:40 ☢artreyu says like what ion said..DVI ports..firewire....s-ips...magsafe....and what's not..
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:41 naeboo says bra cup fluffer....
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:44 ☢artreyu says what the heck is a bra cup fluffer?
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:44 ionStorm™ says i think its to make your A cups look like D cups...
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:48 ☢artreyu says ahh
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:49 naeboo says no lar! to make the cup round and comfy
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:49 naeboo says noodles separator
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:50 naeboo says roti canai spinner
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:51 naeboo says tin can smasher
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:54 ☢artreyu says it is not comfy without it
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:53 ☢artreyu says ?
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:55 naeboo says of coz!
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:56 naeboo says /presents art a 三跤裤 fluffer
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:57 ☢artreyu says dunno how to read chinese..what it means?
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  August 04, 2008 at 07:59 naeboo says 3legpants= ur tighty whitey lar
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  August 04, 2008 at 08:00 ☢artreyu says
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  August 04, 2008 at 08:01 ☢artreyu says gib ur bf...
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  August 04, 2008 at 08:02 ☢artreyu shares
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  August 04, 2008 at 08:01 naeboo says my bf wears boxers or nothing
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:06 pinkpau omg! Wait wait let me read all first haha why naeboo suddenly talk abt boxers!
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:08 naeboo says HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:07 crazystrat says returning to the subject, I would like to second Alvin's suggestion of getting a Macbook Pro.
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:11 naeboo says too exp lar
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:30 reallybites says haiyo shes not going to design stuff or what..macbook pro not practical la. better use the money to get a laptop + 22" lcd woot
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  August 04, 2008 at 10:46 ionStorm™ says pau, give us abit more details. budget, type of games played, preferences -- size, weight, color.
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:23 pinkpau says budget around 2 to 5k? I wanna play games like wow and dota. Need something w long battery life!
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:26 pinkpau mac is out of the q cos i dun hv time to get used to it shd i get vista or xp?
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:34 ☢artreyu says pau playing WoW.....wow!
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:39 ionStorm™ says so she DOES want to play WoW....ahahahah...
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:38 reallybites says hmm most new laptop comes with vista now
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:40 ionStorm™ says how about size? 15" notebooks usually 2.5kgs. i suggest getting a 13.3" notebook...usually 1.6kg's. easy to put on coffee table oso.
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:39 reallybites says wow and dota is compatible with vista right?
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:40 ☢artreyu is playing dota & starcraft from this vista 32bit
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:41 ionStorm™ says i vote for Dell XPS M1330!
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:40 reallybites says how many gigs of RAM do you have artreyu
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:42 ☢artreyu says dua gig
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:41 reallybites says pinkpau - peter recently bought the xps m1310 and it died after like 3 days haha. but dell extended his warranty to 3 years after he bising.
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:42 reallybites says and oh if u are planning to get dell, better get it in US coz i think the warranty here covers Asia only?
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:44 ☢artreyu says hmm i think they have international cover plans...but that is going to cost you
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:52 pinkpau i was looking at the dell 1330 too but some of my friends hv complaints abt it dying. As for size, 15inches!
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:53 pinkpau eh but if buy in US then more expensive right
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:55 reallybites says but if you buy here and then get the US warranty, i think it will add up to about the same lo
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  August 04, 2008 at 11:56 crazystrat says don't forget mac can run XP too, and anyway you're going to spend another few hundred bucks 'downgrading' to XP.
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  August 04, 2008 at 12:56 naeboo says asus it is
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:32 ionStorm™ says as long as tak mati la. anything besides a Dell is hard to send for warranty.
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:33 ionStorm™ says Apple's also really good warranty claims I think.
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:46 ginhooi says did anyone suggested BenQ ? my bf bought that earlier this year. good spec, reasonable price, perfect for WoW.
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:49 ginhooi says i think the model is something called S41 joybook.
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:55 ionStorm™ says another option would be the Dell Latitude D630. the build quality is better than the inspiron series. doesn't look fancy tho...
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  August 04, 2008 at 13:56 naeboo says i know toshiba's speakers are good.
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  August 04, 2008 at 14:42 reallybites says studio 15 or xps m1510 leh
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  August 04, 2008 at 14:43 reallybites says or asus
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  August 04, 2008 at 14:43 ionStorm™ says lol...i think this plurk will make pau more confused.
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  August 04, 2008 at 14:46 ionStorm™ says my vote is still a Dell...mainly because it will be easy to do warranty claims. CompleteCover even covers accidental damage and breakage.
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  August 04, 2008 at 14:46 ionStorm™ says as a student, don't think you'd want to be left hanging without a machine for too long.
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:09 Kitothewoodrat says i still think ASUS is the best considering her preferences. Go check out the ASUS websidt
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:11 Kitothewoodrat says *website
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:11 Kitothewoodrat says it currently has the best deal and stability for gaming and working purposes, nicely balanced
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:16 wolfx says Alienware
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:17 naeboo says tthis gonna be an interlooping argument/discussion/debate thread
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:19 pinkpau thanks all for the comments!! Writing them down and will be going to lowyat this week!
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:22 ionStorm™ says yup. that's what this thread is.
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:25 naeboo says just print this page and use a highlighter! saves a lot of trouble
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:31 ☢artreyu says well i'll go for dell for its support...they do have the best out there...own a dell a few years back..not bad..
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:34 naeboo says *begins to suspect artreyu works for dell and aiming for commission*
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:34 naeboo says /chews on flower stalk
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:35 naeboo says hmmm...
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:48 Kitothewoodrat says hahahaha we are just practically gonna repeat everything all over again.. i suggest she reads everything and then decide
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:50 Kitothewoodrat says and for the time being, we should stop repeating what we said just now, or it will just confuse her
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:50 ☢artreyu says nope..i work for maxis
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:50 ☢artreyu says XD
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:51 naeboo says I HATES MAXIS. *refuses to talk to artreyu from now on*
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:55 ionStorm™ says why yousa hate maxis? den what you use?
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  August 04, 2008 at 15:57 naeboo says DIGI i will follow uuuuuuuuu.. since 1997
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  August 04, 2008 at 16:04 Kitothewoodrat says he used to use DIGI for like a very long time... but after his bad experience with their hidden charges, he switched to Maxis...
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  August 04, 2008 at 16:11 ionStorm™ says i started out with maxis, then changed to digi cos the rates were better...but i was getting horrible network service...
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  August 04, 2008 at 16:10 ionStorm™ says so now i'm back on maxis.
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  August 04, 2008 at 16:11