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  July 29, 2008 at 02:02 kidmarmite is checking in!~
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:04 Connie We have some special guests tonight. kidmarmite, pfanderson and fleep. If they are all available.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:04 Connie Cool, kidmarmite is here!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 Connie I published the answers to the survey on the plurkshops blog: plurkshops.com/?p=24
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 Connie Hi, rickwolff.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 4byoung says This is my first plurkshop. Is this the gathering spot?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 LChamp says i'll be here for a few minutes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 AmberCadabra Hey Connie - I played secretary and went and posted the link to this thread all over lol
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 thekidds says howdy
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 Connie Thank you, Amber. Was just trying to do that.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 Neal Jansons says here I am!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 moomoney says *checks in*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 Connie By way of introduction, kidmarmite is a fellow Plurk user and also on Twitter. And she has a blog called Grid Life about Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 Connie www.kippiefriedkin.com
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 JurinJuran says checking in too
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 Connie Did I spell that right?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 AmberCadabra Connie you worry about here, I'll make sure folks find their way
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 Teeg is present after posting the wrong thread link
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 kidmarmite is Kippie Friedkin in SL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 jimhutchinson is present
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 kidmarmite is Sure..did..perfect spelling!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 pfanderson says is this it?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 Connie rickwolff, if you are on the Plurk page you will have to manually refresh. If you're in the timeline eading this, it should autorefresh.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 pfanderson wonders WHERE IS CONNIE?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 Connie Welcome, pfanderson. You're in the right place.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 GFK is here and on SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 Connie I'm here, I'm here!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 pfanderson thinks alright!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 Connie pfanderson is another fellow Plurker and also on Twitter as the same name. Patricia Anderson is with the University of Michigan, I believe.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 moomoney says it doesn't seem to be autorefreshing the timeline.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 thekidds says mine is
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Connie She is Perplexity Peccable in Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Beth Harte says hi there...lots of SL folks. Connie, great poll overview!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Connie NOTE: Please bear with us. We tend to overwhelm Plurk at times. You will probably have to manually refresh.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Sloitkut is here - Hi everyone
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 pfanderson is Perplexity Peccable in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 kidmarmite pfanderson We're practically neighbors. I work in Southfield, live in Warren!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Connie Again, I have posted the answers to the survey on the plurkshops.com blog. It was a way for me to get out some facts about SL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 joyntheir is here for the first time
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 pfanderson says Teeg, I did the same thing
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 Connie pfanderson works with higher education in Second Life and kidmarmite works on the technology side.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 Connie Why don't you two give us a bit of background on your involvement with Second Life?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 pfanderson says According to the promo, we are supposed to be talking about the value of immersive experience
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 Teeg doesn't feel quite so embarrassed then, pfanderson.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 ThoughtWrong says hey all, I should be working but stopping in to see how the plurkshop is going
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 pfanderson says is there anyone here who thinks that is a false concept? or questionable?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 kidmarmite has been active in SL for only about two years. I was offered a job as an interactive developer for a company who also offered SL services.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 Teeg says Hi Thoughtwrong!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 pfanderson thinks she is talking to herself, or computer crashed ...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 ThoughtWrong has never used SL before
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 thekidds says she hasn't either
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 moomoney says I think the value you get out of SL is directly proportionate to what you put into SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 kidmarmite has I build and script when called upon. I've worked with a few universities in various activities in-world.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 Connie pfanderson, you may have to manually refresh Plurk to see responses.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 shepherd is listening in...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 yogacowgirls wonders what pfanderson is teaching using sl
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 pfanderson is My plurks weren't showingup - sorry. I switched to a new screen
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 Beth Harte says pfanderson, I don't know enough about SL to know if immersion is a false concept. Obviously you don't think so...how'd you get involved?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 pfanderson is I am Perplexity Peccable inSL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 ThoughtWrong asks is SL just like a second world? like an MMORPG or something?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 4byoung says I think VR has tremendous potential for education, training, meetings, events and building brands & thus wanted to learn more here.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 AmberCadabra I'm really curious about these virtual learning environments that universities are using.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 kidmarmite has I'm also working with another company on some Viewer improvement for Linden Lab.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 Teeg pfanderson I've been on mmorpg's for years, watched children grow up there. Maybe not SL but still immersive. I don't question it's value.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 pfanderson is working in healthcare, academic support (higher ed),and consumer health
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 GFK says i agree with moomoney
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 Connie "Immersive experience" actually refers to a type of learning.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 kidmarmite Finally, I'm also a Mentor and really love new and experienced users inworld. That's very rewarding.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 Greg Hollingsworth has never been on SL either
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 pfanderson says I got involved with SL basically because I was told to for work.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 moomoney says mentors in SL are a joke. Linden Lab doesn't monitor them anymore, so they threaten you and generally leave a bad taste in your mouth.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 Connie Second Life is a virtual world.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 pfanderson says I'm not a gamer, so it was a big surprise to me to find it so useful and engaging.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 Connie pfanderson, so the university made a decision to get in Second Life and that was part of your job?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 Beth Harte asks how do you get people/comps. to take SL seriously when avatars are used? (serious question) Curious as to how companies have embraced SL...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 kidmarmite Hmm. Well, I guess I fall outside the norm for Mentors. I've never threatened anyone.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 pfanderson says I am also a single parent of a special needs kid with no car. SL has vastly improved m professional engagement and productivity.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 Teeg says Connie am I remembering wrong or is immersive experience basically hands on experience, similar to weightless room for astronauts?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 moomoney says Cisco has embraced it more than any other company. They regularly hold tech talks, commission machinima, and engage residents.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 pfanderson says Connie, yes - UM moved into SL and I was part of support team.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 AmberCadabra pfanderson that's a really interesting use for it!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 kidmarmite For companies and educators, SL is great for presentations, meetings, and events. It saves time and money.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 Sloitkut agrres w/ pfanderson - I live in a very rural area where social networks or events are rare
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 Beth Harte says pfanderson, that's great to hear!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 AmberCadabra can someone explain "machinima"?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 InertialVoom says hmm having problems responding here
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 pfanderson thinks immersive does meanyou have to be there to understand. Can show, but not quite the same.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 Connie Immersive experience as a way of learning means involving as many of the five senses as possible during the learning experience.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 moomoney says machinima is movies made in a 3d gaming platform. I've worked in SL fulltime for 2 years making machinima.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 pfanderson says machinima = machine video
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 kidmarmite pfanderson I'm thrilled to hear how UM has embraced SL!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 Beth Harte says how does Cisco use it for tech talks? I would assume all people involved have SL accounts...amazing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 InertialVoom says Think FRAPS
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 Connie IBM built their own metaverse in order to conduct employee training - no travel expenses.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 moomoney says yep I've been commissioned to do projects for Cisco, Linden Lab, American Cancer Society, Manpower, and many others. I also blog it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 kidmarmite Companies like Cisco and Sun actually require employees to create an SL account as part of their orientation.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 pfanderson says UM is only one of manyuniversities in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 4byoung asks Can an event manager record an event on SL that can be viewed later by people who did not attend?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 AmberCadabra what's the advantage of something like SL over say, a webinar or video conf?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 InertialVoom says hmm Cisco has there own platform Does Cisco have an entry into SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 GFK says yes you can have a job in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 Beth Harte says I still can't get over the fact that cos. like IBM/Cisco allow employees to go create SL avatars. How do they keep track of 2 names (wrk/SL)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 pfanderson says Cisco is very much in SL - they sponsor evvents
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 Connie Amber, the "immersive" aspect of SL makes the meetings have more of an impact. Hard to explain until you've been in one.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 moomoney says Cisco has an orientation area with skins and different types of outfits so they're better off than most companies entering SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 kidmarmite Most often, larger corporations can have a special last name created for their company and will manage the registration process of employees
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 Beth Harte asks what's the easiest way for someone to immerse themselves in SL? After downloading S/W & setting up a name.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 pfanderson says that makes a lot of sense
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 AmberCadabra that's really something.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 moomoney says bethharte SL is what you make of it. It really depends on what you're into as to what area you'll immerse yourself in.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 Connie All Dell employees who are in SL have Dell as a last name. Pyrrha Dell is Laura Thomas, who started their SL initiative.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 pfanderson says betharte I committed to 15 minutes a day
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 Beth Harte asks moomoney for examples...For example, I like historical fiction & movies. Is there something on SL for me? Or would I need to create it?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 moomoney says To be truthful, most of you won't make it past orientation. You'll have a hard time mastering it, won't know where to go, & stop logging in.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 pfanderson says made all the difference in getting engaged andlearning teh ropes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 Connie Plurk is updating very slowly tonight ... thanks for being patient, everyone.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 Sloitkut thinks SL experience is a personal journey not the same experience for everyone
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 InertialVoom says Wow I wonder if my government Org knows about Cisco in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 pfanderson says there is a lot of different types of content, but finding it is tricky - helps to have a mentor
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 moomoney says bethharte there's a community for everyone. you just have to find it and then you'll be fine.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 InertialVoom says Oh that piece of info, makes this worthwhile.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 GFK says it helps if you have a friend that can meet you there and show you the ropes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 TheDiva says Hi! Just poppin in for a moment! *waves*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 pfanderson says rickwolff Oh, lord, Rick, it is SOOO much work for me! So many possibilities
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 Beth Harte asks how does one find a mentor, or is one assigned? If info is tricky to find, does that turn people off?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 Connie says It helps to have someone show you the ropes in SL. SusanReynolds invited me to her place in SL and tutored me.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 moomoney says rickwolff when you have 700 friends, there's never an off button. you have to go in busy mode to get anything done. it's distracting.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 kidmarmite Sadly...it's not always easy to find a Mentor. They sometimes hang out on Orientation and Help Islands.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 pfanderson says I manage our library, help build exhibits, collect freebies, do training, support faculty with questions, etc
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 kidmarmite If anyone in attendance tonight needs help in SL, I'm always happy to answer questions whenever I'm online.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 Beth Harte says rickwolff, that's what I was thinking from a corp perspective: lack of credibilty. But that doesn't seem true...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says Connie, I do a lot of helping folk, and I know folks who do.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 moomoney says girlfromkansas I've stopped showing friends around because I'll spend 10 bucks on them, help them, then send them off. they never come back
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says Connie I had a friend do the same... I don't know if I would know all I do if it wasn't for them
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 AmberCadabra BethHarte, Connie has really helped get me acquainted
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 pfanderson says also go to ISTE, join a group
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 Sloitkut thinks you could find one within your own social circle if you ask
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 Connie I have offered to help "plurkshops" in SL for those who want help learning about it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 4byoung says Will anyone be attending the SL Higher Ed meeting in Tampa in September? I'm in Tampa & have connections to USF & would love to meet up.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 livepath asks The first time I logged on to SL, I was chased down the street by a nude guy avatar!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says I have a couple slideshows in Slideshare on how to get started
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 Beth Harte says a Court of Louis XIV simulation?? Really? I would have loved that.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says moomoney....i understand that...there are lots of free things on SL though
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says livepath the worst things can happen to new folk
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 livepath asks I wanetd to get really involved but it took a lot of time to find my way. It was a bit confusing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 pfanderson says griefers (the bad guys) target new folk who don't know how to defend themselves
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says YouTube is a great place to become oriented with SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 kidmarmite livepath The same thing happened to me when I first logged in. Took me a while to get over that scare!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 moomoney says girlfromkansas it's not even the money. it's the fact that they expect you to be there for them 24/7 and won't make their own friends.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 pfanderson says girlfromkansas I collect freebies for our faculty, and make them available to our community
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 livepath asks I'm an expert in usability and know enough to know that things aren't always intuitive or usable... but they must be LEARNABLE.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 livepath asks And have enough exposure to communities to know that the naked stalkers are usually the exception, not the rule. LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 ρђαуℓєn ❥ is listening closely
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 moomoney says pfanderson you know nothing about griefers. they target stupidity and blingtards, not newbies.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 pfanderson says I tell folks it is like growing up in RL when we have a parent say "bad part of town". Forcomfort in SL, we need that "parent" to guide us
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 Connie A good way to get introduced to the best aspects of SL is to attend events there -- like BlogHer, Relay for Life, Nonprofit Commons
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 GFK says moomoney...too bad...one of the first things I did was join a group...that helped make friends
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says moomoney lots of griefers hang out at the Welcome zones for new folk. I *know*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says Connie there is a HUGE healthcare support group community in SL for folks with healthneeds
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 moomoney says pfanderson the reason they hang out in welcome zones is because the blingtards get used to SL and never leave the area. I'm W-Hat myself.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 AmberCadabra Connie, I'd love to attend events but admit to not knowing how to find them and get there. Suggestions?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says tons of good folks there to help others. Dreams, Ability Commons, Healthinfo Island, Virtual Abilities, Accessibility Island
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 ghbrett says just wanted to be 172 in the list. Waves to Plurkshoppers. Is it a Blue Light Special tonight?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 pfanderson says AmberCadabra Fleep has the best calendar of educational events
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 InertialVoom says Yes, mentoring realy helps. SL very similar to real world wth good and bad places
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 Connie pfanderson - yes, SL is great for having support groups. I was on a panel in SL recently with group who works specifically w/ disabilities
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 AmberCadabra pfanderson thanks, but I literally mean how to *get* there LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 Beth Harte says rickwolff, I know what a simulation is...thanks! I just want to see it in action! Amazing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 pfanderson says Lots of great live music- I attend classical music concerts on Music Island (Sea Turtle) every Saturday
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 Connie Fleep wanted to be here tonight, but I'm not sure she's ever been on Plurk.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 livepath asks Perhaps there should be SL "paid" greeters... it works for retail - why not SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 pfanderson says Amber, you might needa Map tutorial. Look meup in world sometime?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 moomoney says livepath because a lot of companies stopped coming into SL when the negative backlash hit. business is down bigtime too.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 jlamos I like SL but i never really had time to devote to it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 Connie It helps to do a bit of research before trying SL -- find out where good events, concerts are. Many blogs about them.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 InertialVoom says You need a decent PC or Mac.and High Speed Internet prefeably cable.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 pfanderson says livepath they do have paid greeters, but not enough of them, and not enough clout for those that are there.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says Connie is right - many excellent blogs and SL tourist publications toshow folks better quality events
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 Beth Harte says blingtards? griefers? So, there are actual "bad folks" that go hang out on SL? They suck IRL so they go cause damage in a fake life too?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 Connie Some companies initially made the mistake of getting into SL for marketing purposes only. The ones who stay learn how to build communities.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 Sloitkut says yes, getting started can be tricky - do the research and try things
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says I have the link for Fleep's calendar of events, and will post it here after the event
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 jlamos kidmarmite: your cheat sheet looks helpful.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 livepath asks Well, I think naked guy was trying to be friendly... and it did teach me how to run pretty quickly! LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 Connie Virtual worlds, Internet forums, real life -- people are people, good and bad.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says Rick, I've seen some of that - companies that didn't get it, and refused advice or involvement from community. Oops.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 Teeg says bethharte LOL they're on socnets, so why not SL too. I wonder if they're as bad as SU's trolls and send people death threats?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 moomoney says bethharte griefers are people out to cause trouble and blingtards are people with big hair, ridiculous bodies, and glowing attachments
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 kidmarmite jlamos Thanks! I'm working on an update to the cheatsheet and will also be working with some peeps on translated versions!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 livepath asks Is there a published SL dictionary for all these words? (Blingtard, etc.). I like that word. I might apply it outside of SL...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 Beth Harte says livepath, how did you learn how to run?? Keyboard? ->>>>
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson says we put a lot of out tutorials for SL and tip sheets in our wiki and blog
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 livepath asks to folks like Paris Hilton!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 pknit says My avatar has been hanging out in knitting shops and American Library Association sites.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson shares slum.wetpaint.com
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 livepath asks bethharte. Alas, I have forgotten!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson shares mblog.lib.umich.edu/slum/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says pknit sounds lovely! I foudn one knitting shop ...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 InertialVoom shares Strange, Plurk seems to not display,and refresh gets me away from my earlier displayed messages
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 Teeg wonders if she missed the link to kidmarmite's cheat sheet somewhere?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 moomoney says TheSockKnitter It's a discussion on immersion in a massively multiplayer online social world
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says TheSockKnitter this isa forum about Second life and virtual worlds - do they have value?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 Beth Harte says teeg, I didn't think about it that way...so true! Thanks moomoney, blingtards don't sound so bad...just cheesy!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 Connie Thanks for the links, pfanderson. I take it "slum" is for Second Life University of Michigan ?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 GFK says i'm attending a live concert right now while in the plurkshop...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 GFK says i'm attending a live concert right now while in the plurkshop...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says Teeg I also missed the link - maybe kidmarmite will repost?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 jlamos kidmarmite: Very nice. I'll keep an eye out.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 moomoney says bethharte they're not bad people. they're just easy to make fun of!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 pfanderson says Connie - that's Right!SLUM = Second Life University of Michigan
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 pfanderson says that was before SL changed the rules - not sure what to do, since it is in all our URLs
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 Connie pfanderson does UM hold classes in SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 kidmarmite Here's the link to my blog w/ the cheatsheet: www.kippiefriedkin.com/2008/07/25/second-life-viewer-cheatsheet/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:41 Connie kidmarmite I missed link to cheat sheet as well. Will repost these links to plurkshops blog tomorrow.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:41 pknit says My avatar would not have such great hair and clothing had not someone I found on Ravelry taken her under her wing and helped much
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:41 InertialVoom shares This appears to be a great discssion. For those who have a decent (fairly new computer) with good graphics a High Speed Internet, please
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 pfanderson says Oh! Yes - I saw that and didn't click through. Thanks kidmarmite!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 livepath asks kidmarmite that's purdy handy there. Thanks!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:41 Beth Harte says so what other value does SL offer? Does anyone know more about classes? I would suspect that Yale charges...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 pfanderson says Connie, yes we have some classes in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 kidmarmite My pleasure
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 Teeg says kidmarmite Thanks for reposting it! Bookmarking for use later
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 jlamos www.kippiefriedkin.com/2008/07/25/second-life-viewer-cheatsheet/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 InertialVoom shares think about trying out secondlife.com, it will blow your mind.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 moomoney says This is the greatest freebie review site ever: slfreestyle.blogspot.com/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 jlamos The cheat sheet: www.kippiefriedkin.com/2008/07/25/second-life-viewer-cheatsheet/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 pfanderson says We have an Italian faculty who uses SL for language immersion experiences for his students, and they blog about it
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 InertialVoom shares I must get some sleep you guys have fun. Be
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 InertialVoom shares I must get some sleep you guys have fun. Bye
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:42 pfanderson says moomoney thx! I alsosearch for items at $0L in onrez or SLExchange
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 livepath asks pfanderson that is a great idea.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 pfanderson says I will definitely check out the one you recommend!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 Connie Beth, answers to survey show other uses: classes, training, virtual trade shows, job fairs for hiring, support groups ... limitless.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 kidmarmite I have worked with a university's nursing program. They are going to use SL as a way to train nursing students.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:43 Sloitkut says I just participated in a SL class this morning about Facebook
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 kidmarmite They plan to do a lot of role playing and scenario training with students as well.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 Teeg says InertialVoom Thanks for coming!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 pfanderson says livepath I know lots ofteachers in SL. The biggest association is ISTE - International Society for Technology in Education - great events.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 Beth Harte says Connie, do you know how many companies actually use SL for those things? Or is it mainly very techie companies?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 moomoney says I find teaching machinima on the teen grid to be rewarding. I feel like a mentor to them.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:45 Connie There is a lot of entertainment in second life -- live music and concerts. That is part of the immersive experience -- being there.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:44 Dirk Talamasca thinks Plurk is like the Orientation Island of online chat.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:45 DebInDenver says following this from a mobile is a little nuts. will jump on from home.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:45 pfanderson says there are many groups that offer free SL skills training classes - NCI is one
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 pfanderson says bethharte I think it is mostly tech & marketing and popular companies right now, but starting to branch out
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:45 pfanderson says dirk LOL. Yeah - makes me tired.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 Beth Harte says I guess my disconnect is that it looks more fun than actually useful in my daily life. I guess I need to experience it first hand.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 Connie moomoney points out there is a Teen Grid for ages 13-18; Second Life is for adults.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 pfanderson says kidmarmite I am interested in the nursing class. You know JS Vavoom, right?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 moomoney says bethharte the nonprofit scene in SL is getting HUGE. it's a cheaper alternative to doing projects IRL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:47 Connie B2C companies -- Coke, Toyota, etc. are more likely to be there than B2B
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:46 livepath asks dirk yah. But no meditating hippos
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:47 pfanderson says Bethharte I do have some fun, but for me it is mostly work and service to others.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:48 livepath says Wow connie that's a pretty bold statement. Is that based on observation or stats? (If so would like 2 see research!)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:48 pfanderson says Connie MooMoney I know there are some great places and communities on Teen Grid, but there are some really awful ones also.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:48 Connie Travel and tourism companies also on Second Life a lot.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:49 moomoney says rickwolff I know people from all walks of life in SL. Cancer survivors, grandmothers, great grandmothers, teens fresh out of HS.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:48 pfanderson says Connie what is B2B?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:49 kidmarmite pfanderson No, I don't know JS Vavoom? More info?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:49 pfanderson says I've seen lots of atheletic companies and orgs also.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:48 livepath says connie I think I read that completely wrong. Sleep deprivation. Sorry.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:49 pfanderson says kidmarmite JS Vavoom has built an emergency room simulator for teaching nursing students - it will blow your mind!!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:50 JurinJuran thinks i'm old as dirt, but not too old for SL rickwolff
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:49 Connie Sorry Plurk is taking forever for me grrrr B2B = business to business, B2C = business to consumer
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:50 kidmarmite pfanderson That's awesome. I need to check that out!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:50 Beth Harte says B2B is business-to-business companies
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:51 pfanderson says kidmarmite I will sendyou pics later
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:51 kidmarmite pfanderson Thanks!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:51 pfanderson says thx Connie bethharte
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:51 4byoung asks pfanderson Are the nurses training for things like a pandemic bird flue crises that would be hard to in "real" life?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:52 pfanderson says regarding age, the SL metrics are VERY interesting and surprising
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:52 moomoney says connie I look forward to following up this chat with one at Social Media Camp on Wednesday
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:52 pfanderson says 4byoung U-Idaho has built a pandemic response simulation in SL, and crisis response - again wonderful!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:53 Connie 3D simulation is wave of the future for training -- nurses, medical students, even truck drivers (see plurkshops blog)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:53 pfanderson says re metrics, most avatars are from young folk (<30), but most hours spent in SL are from 'old folk' (>45)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:54 Connie moomoney - great, looking forward to Social Media Camp on Wednesday.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:54 pfanderson says the over 45 crowd averages ~60 hours a week,while under 30s average ~12
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:54 4byoung says I looked up the link for the SL Higher Ed mtg in Sept on Fleep's site - www.slconvention.org/register/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:55 pfanderson thinks this is because of accessibility for the homebound and persons with disabilities -they practically live in SL, skew results
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:54 Dirk Talamasca says Hmmm this one time at social media camp....
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:55 Connie The median age of users is early 30s -- not as young as some people think. When it comes to nonprofits, the age is much older.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:56 Beth Harte says pfanderson, that is so cool! A pandemic response simulation...Wow, that could be used for disasters too...how to prepare.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:55 pfanderson shares slhealthy.wetpaint.com - a wiki collecting health groups in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:56 4byoung says pfanderson Thanks! Will look that up. I think Soc Media & VR have great potential in helping companies w-Bus Continuity issues in a crisis.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:56 pfanderson says bethharte it really is wonderful - very detailed. I have pics of that in my Flickr acct also
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:57 pfanderson says another interesting health location in SL is a giant anatomical / physiology model - the Giant Testis. Really
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:57 livepath asks Do World Vision or Habitat for Humanity have a presence in SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:57 Connie One of the reasons I'm involved in SL is because of trends. I'm learning now to be ahead of the curve as the Web continues to move toward 3D
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:58 Beth Harte says I think I need to dust off Grainne Finesmith and get her to the Court of Louis XIV (while avoiding naked people!)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:57 pfanderson says there are Genomics training labs, Edgar Allen Poe short story replicas, historical immersion experiences - fascinating stuff
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:58 pfanderson says livepath I'm not sure about Habitat for Humanity. I think they are.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:58 kidmarmite Connie That is a smart move. This really is the future of web.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:59 Connie There is so much to do/see in SL, it's hard to know where to start, so links shared by people you trust - like pfanderson & kidmarmite
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:59 pfanderson says there is a lot of architecture modeling going onin SL, especially or usability testing of designs before building
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:58 Connie are valuable.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 DebInDenver says I am interested to see how travel companies use SL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:59 Connie Very much the future of web -- and ecommerce. Think Webkins.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:59 pfanderson says Connie kidmarmite virtual worlds ARE the future - many children'sonline "games" are really virtual worlds
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 Beth Harte says Connie, it would be nice to be a head of the curve for once! Thank you so much for teaching me about SL. I will def. need to check it out!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 AmberCadabra BethHarte I bet Connie would let you hang out at her place like she has me.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 Connie BTW, the correct survey answer is that ppl spend $1.5 billion on virtual goods.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:59 4byoung asks Has anyone tried Rocketon? An avatar that can 'travel' w-you around the web & potentially interact at any web site?
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 Dirk Talamasca says bethharte NOAA has been doing emergency weather simulations in SL for some time. You can see videos on YouTube.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 Teeg says perhaps this is a silly question but why do so many people seem to have a different SL name compared to their usual SM name?
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:00 pfanderson says one of our pharmacy faculty say if we don't populate virtual worlds with quality folk/content, what will our children find there?
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 kidmarmite Sorry folks, I have to run. Work calls before I call it a night!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 kidmarmite Sorry folks, I have to run. Work calls before I call it a night!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 Connie Analysts predict that by 2011, 80% of Internet users will have avatars and be active in virtual worlds.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 pfanderson says dirk yes, the NOAA is very active in SL, also NASA
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 Sloitkut wishes SLurls of all these places in the transcripts - pretty please
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 Beth Harte says Amber, I need to download the S/W first... Then I'll ask Connie for an invite to a BBQ.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 kidmarmite Oops...apologies for the double post!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 Connie kidmarmite Thank you SO MUCH for being here and helping.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 Connie No, rickwolff, that is in US$
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 kidmarmite Thank you for inviting me, Connie!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 pfanderson says sloitkut good point - I'll try to add some
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:01 Teeg says kidmarmite Thanks for coming! A lot of information tonight!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 Connie Teeg right now Linden Lab controls SL names. So you have to choose one of their last names.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 pfanderson says there is a wiki that collects SLURLs for educational locations
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:03 kidmarmite As I said before, anyone is welcome to contact me inworld, just look up Kippie Friedkin. Or find me on Plurk, Twitter, or blog
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:03 pfanderson shares del.icio.us/education+slurl
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:02 livepath asks connie thanks for doing this. I have to hop... looking forward to the summary! Thanks pfanderson and kidmarmite
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:03 pfanderson says kidmarmite I'll definitely look you up - nice to meet you!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 Connie AS someone said earlier, large companies can get custom last names from Linden Labs. Like Dell
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 pfanderson says in SL I am Perplexity Peccable
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 DebInDenver says thanks everyone! I am sorry I missed this, but will read the thread! And look forward to the recap!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 pfanderson says thanks to all who came- what a wild game!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 Connie I am Reece Llewellyn in Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 Beth Harte shares
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:04 Sloitkut wants to help any newbies in SL I am Sloitkut Maynard
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:05 moomoney says I have to go, but I'm moo Money and Money Moo in SL. I hope you guys will give SL a real chance because it's an amazing platform.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:05 Beth Harte says I am Grainne Finesmith (once I get out there and find my way around)
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:05 Connie Thanks moomoney and livepath for joining us. Appreciate your input.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:05 Connie pfanderson - this is actually "slow" for a plurkshop. 350 responses in one hour.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:05 Connie Plurk is lagging like Second Life tonight.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:06 DebInDenver says thanks for sharing the NOAA thing Beth! They are based in Boulder and I have done a couple of projects with them! I love that place~
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:06 AmberCadabra bethharte LMAO! I'm Audra Finesmith. I guess we're related.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:07 Sloitkut wants to say thank you and looks forward to meeting new friends in world
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:07 AmberCadabra connie yep plurk is making it difficult tonight
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:06 Connie And if anybody is interested in having a plurkshop IN Second Life, leave a message for me on the plurkshops.com blog.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:07 Connie Sloitkut, thanks so much for joining us.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 4byoung says I am Widbee Finesmith and a Newbie and not ashamed to say I just got the SL for Dummies book.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 pfanderson shares fleeep.net/blog/sl-calendar/
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 Teeg says livepath and moomoney Thanks for coming! Realizing how much I'm going to have to learn, but it sounds exciting.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 Connie Special thanks again to pfanderson and kidmarmite for staying up late to share their knowledge with us.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 Connie It's very exciting to me to learn more about what they are doing in Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:08 pfanderson says 4byoung Go for it! I've heard good things about it, especially if you don't have a personal mentor
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:09 Beth Harte says 4byoung, does that make us related?! I am Grainne Finesmith.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:09 pfanderson says Teeg 15 minutes a day can really make it so much easier ...
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:09 Teeg says Connie, I definitely am interested in a Plurkshop there...just as soon as I get a character set up
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:10 Connie BTW, pfanderson is the one who designed the lovely peapod party dress I wore in Second Life last weekend.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:09 AmberCadabra Connie thanks for doing this one, and thanks to the guests too! Great information.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:09 Dirk Talamasca screams and runs out of the building
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:10 Teeg says pfanderson that sounds like a good way of doing it! Thanks!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:10 pfanderson says bethharte 4byoung In Caledon, you would greet each other as cousins or cuz I have a Cousin Peccablewho is a wild pig and very literate
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:10 pfanderson thinks we scared Dirk
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:11 Connie says I have not met any of my Llewellyn cousins yet.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:12 4byoung says bethharte Maybe. You can see if you want me as a relative after you look at my avatar.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:12 Connie thinks it must not take much to scare Dirk.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:12 Teeg says Connie and pfanderson Thank you both so much! Now I'm looking forward to trying SL!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:13 Connie Teeg, so glad to hear that. And now you have people who are willing to help you with the learning curve - and make it fun.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:14 JurinJuran hopes everyone in this plurkshop gives SL a try if they aren't already there.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:13 4byoung says This has been a wonderful plurkshop and shows the value of Plurk. Thanks for the great info and links.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:14 Connie Reminder: the survey answers are now live on plurkshops.com
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:14 pfanderson thinks LOL. And off to bed for me ... wow. Great event, Connie! Thx fro invite!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:15 Beth Harte says I've hear Audra Finesmith is a troublemaker on Sl too! Must run in the family!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:15 Dirk Talamasca says Desmond is my cuz.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:15 Teeg thinks that will definitely help, Connie! Knowing people who are already on a site can make a real difference in enjoyment levels.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:14 Beth Harte says Thanks Connie and SL folks, this has been great!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:15 Connie Goodnight, pfanderson. And many thanks for your insights.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:16 Connie Thank you to all who participated. I do hope you'll give SL a try. If you want to be involved in an in-world plurkshop, let me know.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:17 4byoung says Here's the link for Rocketon if anyone is interested. www.rocketon.com/a/launchpad.php
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:17 Connie You can leave a comment on the plurkshop blog with the survey answers.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:17 AmberCadabra bethharte hush with you. just cause you're jealous of my skates...
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:17 Teeg says Good night and sweet dreams pfanderson.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:17 4byoung says connie Do you think it would be hard for someone to participate if they are relatively new to SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:20 jlamos I guess i'd better dl SL again.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:20 jlamos Connie Thanks for the invite.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:21 Connie 4byoung The in-world plurkshop will be especially helpful for newbies. A place to learn among friends.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:21 jlamos Connie I am interested in the in-world workshop.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:22 Sloitkut wants Excellent idea Connie
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:26 Connie Great! I will post an announcement here and on the plurkshops.com blog when we have a time and place for in-world meeting.
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:28 DebInDenver says that's great Connie! I would like that too!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:42 Live Crunch says DebinDenver me too!
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:43 Joankr says Sorry I had to miss this (getting son ready for surgery tomorrow) - I have a writersinthesky.blogspot.com(blog about writers & SL)
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:44 Joankr says that's my blog - don't know how it got so messed up in previous plurk
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  July 29, 2008 at 03:45 Joankr says looking forward to reading all the plurks at this plurkshop!
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  July 29, 2008 at 09:26 PFranklin wonders where this will lead us
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  July 29, 2008 at 13:52 pfanderson shares del.icio.us/tag/education+slurl - sorry the earlier link had typo