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  July 29, 2008 at 02:02 kidmarmite is checking in!~
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:04 ConnieinDenver We have some special guests tonight. kidmarmite, pfanderson and fleep. If they are all available.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:04 ConnieinDenver Cool, kidmarmite is here!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 rickwolff says hi.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 ConnieinDenver I published the answers to the survey on the plurkshops blog: plurkshops.com/?p=24
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 ConnieinDenver Hi, rickwolff.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 4byoung says This is my first plurkshop. Is this the gathering spot?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 LChamp says i'll be here for a few minutes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 AmberCadabra Hey Connie - I played secretary and went and posted the link to this thread all over lol
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 thekidds says howdy
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 ConnieinDenver Thank you, Amber. Was just trying to do that.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:05 thePuck says here I am!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 moomoney says *checks in*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 ConnieinDenver By way of introduction, kidmarmite is a fellow Plurk user and also on Twitter. And she has a blog called Grid Life about Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:06 ConnieinDenver www.kippiefriedkin.com
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 JurinJuran says checking in too
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 ConnieinDenver Did I spell that right?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 AmberCadabra Connie you worry about here, I'll make sure folks find their way
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 TeegInDenver is present after posting the wrong thread link
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:07 kidmarmite is Kippie Friedkin in SL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 rickwolff gives note to self: Plurk must be manually refreshed. (Sitting here staring at screen)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 jimhutchinson is present
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 kidmarmite is Sure..did..perfect spelling!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 pfanderson says is this it?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 ConnieinDenver rickwolff, if you are on the Plurk page you will have to manually refresh. If you're in the timeline eading this, it should autorefresh.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 pfanderson wonders WHERE IS CONNIE?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 ConnieinDenver Welcome, pfanderson. You're in the right place.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 GFK is here and on SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:08 ConnieinDenver I'm here, I'm here!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 pfanderson thinks alright!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 ConnieinDenver pfanderson is another fellow Plurker and also on Twitter as the same name. Patricia Anderson is with the University of Michigan, I believe.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 moomoney says it doesn't seem to be autorefreshing the timeline.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:09 thekidds says mine is
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 ConnieinDenver She is Perplexity Peccable in Second Life.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Beth Harte says hi there...lots of SL folks. Connie, great poll overview!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 ConnieinDenver NOTE: Please bear with us. We tend to overwhelm Plurk at times. You will probably have to manually refresh.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 Sloitkut is here - Hi everyone
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 pfanderson is Perplexity Peccable in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 kidmarmite pfanderson We're practically neighbors. I work in Southfield, live in Warren!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 rickwolff Not such a hardship, Connie.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 ConnieinDenver Again, I have posted the answers to the survey on the plurkshops.com blog. It was a way for me to get out some facts about SL.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 joyntheir is here for the first time
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:10 pfanderson says Teeg, I did the same thing
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 ConnieinDenver pfanderson works with higher education in Second Life and kidmarmite works on the technology side.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 ConnieinDenver Why don't you two give us a bit of background on your involvement with Second Life?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:11 pfanderson says According to the promo, we are supposed to be talking about the value of immersive experience
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 TeegInDenver doesn't feel quite so embarrassed then, pfanderson.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 ThoughtWrong says hey all, I should be working but stopping in to see how the plurkshop is going
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:12 pfanderson says is there anyone here who thinks that is a false concept? or questionable?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 kidmarmite has been active in SL for only about two years. I was offered a job as an interactive developer for a company who also offered SL services.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 TeegInDenver says Hi Thoughtwrong!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 pfanderson thinks she is talking to herself, or computer crashed ...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 ThoughtWrong has never used SL before
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 thekidds says she hasn't either
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 moomoney says I think the value you get out of SL is directly proportionate to what you put into SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 kidmarmite has I build and script when called upon. I've worked with a few universities in various activities in-world.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 ConnieinDenver pfanderson, you may have to manually refresh Plurk to see responses.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:13 shepherd is listening in...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 yogacowgirls wonders what pfanderson is teaching using sl
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 pfanderson is My plurks weren't showingup - sorry. I switched to a new screen
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 Beth Harte says pfanderson, I don't know enough about SL to know if immersion is a false concept. Obviously you don't think so...how'd you get involved?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 pfanderson is I am Perplexity Peccable inSL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 ThoughtWrong asks is SL just like a second world? like an MMORPG or something?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 4byoung says I think VR has tremendous potential for education, training, meetings, events and building brands & thus wanted to learn more here.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:14 AmberCadabra I'm really curious about these virtual learning environments that universities are using.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 kidmarmite has I'm also working with another company on some Viewer improvement for Linden Lab.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 TeegInDenver pfanderson I've been on mmorpg's for years, watched children grow up there. Maybe not SL but still immersive. I don't question it's value.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 pfanderson is working in healthcare, academic support (higher ed),and consumer health
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 GFK says i agree with moomoney
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 ConnieinDenver "Immersive experience" actually refers to a type of learning.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 kidmarmite Finally, I'm also a Mentor and really love new and experienced users inworld. That's very rewarding.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:15 Greg Hollingsworth has never been on SL either
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 pfanderson says I got involved with SL basically because I was told to for work.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 moomoney says mentors in SL are a joke. Linden Lab doesn't monitor them anymore, so they threaten you and generally leave a bad taste in your mouth.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:16 ConnieinDenver Second Life is a virtual world.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 pfanderson says I'm not a gamer, so it was a big surprise to me to find it so useful and engaging.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 rickwolff has .
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 ConnieinDenver pfanderson, so the university made a decision to get in Second Life and that was part of your job?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 Beth Harte asks how do you get people/comps. to take SL seriously when avatars are used? (serious question) Curious as to how companies have embraced SL...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 kidmarmite Hmm. Well, I guess I fall outside the norm for Mentors. I've never threatened anyone.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 pfanderson says I am also a single parent of a special needs kid with no car. SL has vastly improved m professional engagement and productivity.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 TeegInDenver says Connie am I remembering wrong or is immersive experience basically hands on experience, similar to weightless room for astronauts?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:17 moomoney says Cisco has embraced it more than any other company. They regularly hold tech talks, commission machinima, and engage residents.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 pfanderson says Connie, yes - UM moved into SL and I was part of support team.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 AmberCadabra pfanderson that's a really interesting use for it!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 kidmarmite For companies and educators, SL is great for presentations, meetings, and events. It saves time and money.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 Sloitkut agrres w/ pfanderson - I live in a very rural area where social networks or events are rare
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 Beth Harte says pfanderson, that's great to hear!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 AmberCadabra can someone explain "machinima"?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 InertialVoom says hmm having problems responding here
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 pfanderson thinks immersive does meanyou have to be there to understand. Can show, but not quite the same.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 ConnieinDenver Immersive experience as a way of learning means involving as many of the five senses as possible during the learning experience.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:18 moomoney says machinima is movies made in a 3d gaming platform. I've worked in SL fulltime for 2 years making machinima.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 pfanderson says machinima = machine video
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:19 kidmarmite pfanderson I'm thrilled to hear how UM has embraced SL!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 Beth Harte says how does Cisco use it for tech talks? I would assume all people involved have SL accounts...amazing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 rickwolff AmberCadabra machine + cinema
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 InertialVoom says Think FRAPS
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 rickwolff moomooney Worked? For $?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 ConnieinDenver IBM built their own metaverse in order to conduct employee training - no travel expenses.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 moomoney says yep I've been commissioned to do projects for Cisco, Linden Lab, American Cancer Society, Manpower, and many others. I also blog it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 kidmarmite Companies like Cisco and Sun actually require employees to create an SL account as part of their orientation.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:20 pfanderson says UM is only one of manyuniversities in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 4byoung asks Can an event manager record an event on SL that can be viewed later by people who did not attend?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 AmberCadabra what's the advantage of something like SL over say, a webinar or video conf?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 InertialVoom says hmm Cisco has there own platform Does Cisco have an entry into SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:21 GFK says yes you can have a job in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 Beth Harte says I still can't get over the fact that cos. like IBM/Cisco allow employees to go create SL avatars. How do they keep track of 2 names (wrk/SL)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 pfanderson says Cisco is very much in SL - they sponsor evvents
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 ConnieinDenver Amber, the "immersive" aspect of SL makes the meetings have more of an impact. Hard to explain until you've been in one.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 rickwolff Hopefully not paid in Lindens.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 moomoney says Cisco has an orientation area with skins and different types of outfits so they're better off than most companies entering SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 kidmarmite Most often, larger corporations can have a special last name created for their company and will manage the registration process of employees
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 Beth Harte asks what's the easiest way for someone to immerse themselves in SL? After downloading S/W & setting up a name.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:22 pfanderson says that makes a lot of sense
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:23 AmberCadabra that's really something.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 moomoney says bethharte SL is what you make of it. It really depends on what you're into as to what area you'll immerse yourself in.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 ConnieinDenver All Dell employees who are in SL have Dell as a last name. Pyrrha Dell is Laura Thomas, who started their SL initiative.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 pfanderson says betharte I committed to 15 minutes a day
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 Beth Harte asks moomoney for examples...For example, I like historical fiction & movies. Is there something on SL for me? Or would I need to create it?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 moomoney says To be truthful, most of you won't make it past orientation. You'll have a hard time mastering it, won't know where to go, & stop logging in.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:24 pfanderson says made all the difference in getting engaged andlearning teh ropes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 ConnieinDenver Plurk is updating very slowly tonight ... thanks for being patient, everyone.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 rickwolff I can completely see the credibility problem. SL looks like the opposite of productive work.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 Sloitkut thinks SL experience is a personal journey not the same experience for everyone
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 InertialVoom says Wow I wonder if my government Org knows about Cisco in SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 pfanderson says there is a lot of different types of content, but finding it is tricky - helps to have a mentor
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 moomoney says bethharte there's a community for everyone. you just have to find it and then you'll be fine.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 InertialVoom says Oh that piece of info, makes this worthwhile.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 GFK says it helps if you have a friend that can meet you there and show you the ropes
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:25 *Kitteh* says Hi! Just poppin in for a moment! *waves*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 rickwolff bethharte I recall there being a Court of Louis XIV simulation.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 pfanderson says rickwolff Oh, lord, Rick, it is SOOO much work for me! So many possibilities
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 Beth Harte asks how does one find a mentor, or is one assigned? If info is tricky to find, does that turn people off?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 ConnieinDenver says It helps to have someone show you the ropes in SL. SusanReynolds invited me to her place in SL and tutored me.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:26 moomoney says rickwolff when you have 700 friends, there's never an off button. you have to go in busy mode to get anything done. it's distracting.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 kidmarmite Sadly...it's not always easy to find a Mentor. They sometimes hang out on Orientation and Help Islands.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 pfanderson says I manage our library, help build exhibits, collect freebies, do training, support faculty with questions, etc
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 kidmarmite If anyone in attendance tonight needs help in SL, I'm always happy to answer questions whenever I'm online.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 Beth Harte says rickwolff, that's what I was thinking from a corp perspective: lack of credibilty. But that doesn't seem true...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says Connie, I do a lot of helping folk, and I know folks who do.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 rickwolff moomooney That's not a selling point!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 moomoney says girlfromkansas I've stopped showing friends around because I'll spend 10 bucks on them, help them, then send them off. they never come back
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says Connie I had a friend do the same... I don't know if I would know all I do if it wasn't for them
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 AmberCadabra BethHarte, Connie has really helped get me acquainted
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 pfanderson says also go to ISTE, join a group
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 Sloitkut thinks you could find one within your own social circle if you ask
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 ConnieinDenver I have offered to help "plurkshops" in SL for those who want help learning about it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:27 4byoung says Will anyone be attending the SL Higher Ed meeting in Tampa in September? I'm in Tampa & have connections to USF & would love to meet up.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 livepath asks The first time I logged on to SL, I was chased down the street by a nude guy avatar!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says I have a couple slideshows in Slideshare on how to get started
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 Beth Harte says a Court of Louis XIV simulation?? Really? I would have loved that.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says moomoney....i understand that...there are lots of free things on SL though
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 pfanderson says livepath the worst things can happen to new folk
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 livepath asks I wanetd to get really involved but it took a lot of time to find my way. It was a bit confusing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 pfanderson says griefers (the bad guys) target new folk who don't know how to defend themselves
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:28 GFK says YouTube is a great place to become oriented with SL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 kidmarmite livepath The same thing happened to me when I first logged in. Took me a while to get over that scare!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 moomoney says girlfromkansas it's not even the money. it's the fact that they expect you to be there for them 24/7 and won't make their own friends.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 pfanderson says girlfromkansas I collect freebies for our faculty, and make them available to our community
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 livepath asks I'm an expert in usability and know enough to know that things aren't always intuitive or usable... but they must be LEARNABLE.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:29 livepath asks And have enough exposure to communities to know that the naked stalkers are usually the exception, not the rule. LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 phaylen is listening closely
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 moomoney says pfanderson you know nothing about griefers. they target stupidity and blingtards, not newbies.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 rickwolff bethharte simulation = place, with buildings, garden, where avatars dressed in gowns, powdered wigs, etc. gather regularly.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:30 pfanderson says I tell folks it is like growing up in RL when we have a parent say "bad part of town". Forcomfort in SL, we need that "parent" to guide us
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 ConnieinDenver A good way to get introduced to the best aspects of SL is to attend events there -- like BlogHer, Relay for Life, Nonprofit Commons
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 GFK says moomoney...too bad...one of the first things I did was join a group...that helped make friends
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says moomoney lots of griefers hang out at the Welcome zones for new folk. I *know*
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says Connie there is a HUGE healthcare support group community in SL for folks with healthneeds
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 moomoney says pfanderson the reason they hang out in welcome zones is because the blingtards get used to SL and never leave the area. I'm W-Hat myself.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 AmberCadabra Connie, I'd love to attend events but admit to not knowing how to find them and get there. Suggestions?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:31 pfanderson says tons of good folks there to help others. Dreams, Ability Commons, Healthinfo Island, Virtual Abilities, Accessibility Island
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 ghbrett says just wanted to be 172 in the list. Waves to Plurkshoppers. Is it a Blue Light Special tonight?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 pfanderson says AmberCadabra Fleep has the best calendar of educational events
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:32 InertialVoom says Yes, mentoring realy helps. SL very similar to real world wth good and bad places
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 ConnieinDenver pfanderson - yes, SL is great for having support groups. I was on a panel in SL recently with group who works specifically w/ disabilities
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 AmberCadabra pfanderson thanks, but I literally mean how to *get* there LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 Beth Harte says rickwolff, I know what a simulation is...thanks! I just want to see it in action! Amazing.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 pfanderson says Lots of great live music- I attend classical music concerts on Music Island (Sea Turtle) every Saturday
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 ConnieinDenver Fleep wanted to be here tonight, but I'm not sure she's ever been on Plurk.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:33 livepath asks Perhaps there should be SL "paid" greeters... it works for retail - why not SL?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 pfanderson says Amber, you might needa Map tutorial. Look meup in world sometime?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 rickwolff bethharte It's just that you used the past tense. I'll bet it's still there.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 moomoney says livepath because a lot of companies stopped coming into SL when the negative backlash hit. business is down bigtime too.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 jlamos I like SL but i never really had time to devote to it.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 ConnieinDenver It helps to do a bit of research before trying SL -- find out where good events, concerts are. Many blogs about them.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 InertialVoom says You need a decent PC or Mac.and High Speed Internet prefeably cable.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:34 pfanderson says livepath they do have paid greeters, but not enough of them, and not enough clout for those that are there.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says Connie is right - many excellent blogs and SL tourist publications toshow folks better quality events
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 Beth Harte says blingtards? griefers? So, there are actual "bad folks" that go hang out on SL? They suck IRL so they go cause damage in a fake life too?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 rickwolff moomooney There are personal backlashes, too. (Won't go into details.)
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 ConnieinDenver Some companies initially made the mistake of getting into SL for marketing purposes only. The ones who stay learn how to build communities.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:35 Sloitkut says yes, getting started can be tricky - do the research and try things
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says I have the link for Fleep's calendar of events, and will post it here after the event
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 jlamos kidmarmite: your cheat sheet looks helpful.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 livepath asks Well, I think naked guy was trying to be friendly... and it did teach me how to run pretty quickly! LOL
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 ConnieinDenver Virtual worlds, Internet forums, real life -- people are people, good and bad.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 pfanderson says Rick, I've seen some of that - companies that didn't get it, and refused advice or involvement from community. Oops.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:36 TeegInDenver says bethharte LOL they're on socnets, so why not SL too. I wonder if they're as bad as SU's trolls and send people death threats?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 moomoney says bethharte griefers are people out to cause trouble and blingtards are people with big hair, ridiculous bodies, and glowing attachments
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 kidmarmite jlamos Thanks! I'm working on an update to the cheatsheet and will also be working with some peeps on translated versions!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 livepath asks Is there a published SL dictionary for all these words? (Blingtard, etc.). I like that word. I might apply it outside of SL...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 Beth Harte says livepath, how did you learn how to run?? Keyboard? ->>>>
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson says we put a lot of out tutorials for SL and tip sheets in our wiki and blog
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 livepath asks to folks like Paris Hilton!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:37 pknit says My avatar has been hanging out in knitting shops and American Library Association sites.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson shares slum.wetpaint.com
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 livepath asks bethharte. Alas, I have forgotten!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 pfanderson shares mblog.lib.umich.edu/slum/
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says pknit sounds lovely! I foudn one knitting shop ...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 InertialVoom shares Strange, Plurk seems to not display,and refresh gets me away from my earlier displayed messages
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:38 TeegInDenver wonders if she missed the link to kidmarmite's cheat sheet somewhere?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 moomoney says TheSockKnitter It's a discussion on immersion in a massively multiplayer online social world
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says TheSockKnitter this isa forum about Second life and virtual worlds - do they have value?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 Beth Harte says teeg, I didn't think about it that way...so true! Thanks moomoney, blingtards don't sound so bad...just cheesy!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 ConnieinDenver Thanks for the links, pfanderson. I take it "slum" is for Second Life University of Michigan ?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 GFK says i'm attending a live concert right now while in the plurkshop...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 GFK says i'm attending a live concert right now while in the plurkshop...
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:39 pfanderson says Teeg I also missed the link - maybe kidmarmite will repost?
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 jlamos kidmarmite: Very nice. I'll keep an eye out.
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 moomoney says bethharte they're not bad people. they're just easy to make fun of!
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  July 29, 2008 at 02:40 pfanderson says Connie - that's Right!S