The *official* Plurkshop #10 thread! **Unique Designs in the Plurk World** - ThoughtWrong

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July 26, 2008 at 23:22 pritcharddesign says hi thoughtwrong
July 26, 2008 at 23:23 onepinktee hi thoughtwrong - thanks for hosting this topic!
July 26, 2008 at 23:23 Konstantino says Do we say we should qualify or something?
July 26, 2008 at 23:24 ThoughtWrong says everyone, started a lil' early, another 5 mins or so and we will get started
July 26, 2008 at 23:26 soulcreates says Hi thoughtwrong
July 26, 2008 at 23:27 IamGay! says hello
July 26, 2008 at 23:27 ConnieinDenver Are we taking roll? *raises hand* "Present."
July 26, 2008 at 23:28 ThoughtWrong "thanks" to zenelements for making is plurk box larger with CSS code
July 26, 2008 at 23:28 TeegInDenver *raises hand*
July 26, 2008 at 23:29 IamGay! says Present!
July 26, 2008 at 23:29 ThoughtWrong *raises hand as well* then thinks he had better be here, lol
July 26, 2008 at 23:29 ThoughtWrong says so are we all ready?
July 26, 2008 at 23:30 MikeFarho is Hi All
July 26, 2008 at 23:29 pritcharddesign says excuse me, what is that great image on your profile Thoughtwrong?
July 26, 2008 at 23:30 ThoughtWrong asks or do we need to give time for a few more people to roll in?
July 26, 2008 at 23:30 AmberCadabra Charles, I say go for it. Folks will catch up, they always do.
July 26, 2008 at 23:31 ThoughtWrong says pritcharddesign its as I lay dyings cover for frail worlds collapse
July 26, 2008 at 23:31 ThoughtWrong says ok take it away thoughtwrong
July 26, 2008 at 23:31 ThoughtWrong says Hi everyone, I am thoughtwrong and welcome to the Plurkshop on Unique Designs in the Plurk World!
July 26, 2008 at 23:31 ThoughtWrong Today we will be discussing what has seemed to be one of the most controversial topics over the past week on Plurk!
July 26, 2008 at 23:33 ThoughtWrong The custom CSS design and inplementation on Plurk profiles have been compared to "Myspace for the microblogging world"
July 26, 2008 at 23:33 ThoughtWrong This 'in my opinion' is most definately not the case.
July 26, 2008 at 23:34 ThoughtWrong says however, this is Plurk! So its not really about *just* my opinion now is it?
July 26, 2008 at 23:34 ThoughtWrong says so before we get into comments/questions
July 26, 2008 at 23:34 ThoughtWrong I have compiled a short list of links I would like to share before we get started just as a refrence for the conversations in this thread.
July 26, 2008 at 23:34 ThoughtWrong Is Plurk the MySpace of Microblogging? - The seemingly controversial mashable post by waynesutton
July 26, 2008 at 23:35 uberdev is *rolling in* thoughtwrong
July 26, 2008 at 23:35 ThoughtWrong uberdev
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 ThoughtWrong I Saw It Through The Plurkline - Plurks blog post made yesterday on the CSS topic.
July 26, 2008 at 23:35 Zen Elements has to admit, I was a little concerned the mySpace effect would take a hold of Plurk but there are a few points to this...
July 26, 2008 at 23:35 ThoughtWrong http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-21651/TS-134703.mp3 - where we all discussed a little about this topic as well.
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 localmc thinks sp9.fotologs.net/photo/41/8/111/localmc/1216547502021_f.jpg
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 ConnieinDenver "seemingly" ?
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 Zen Elements says 1. that everyone is entitled to their own crazy CSS Profile fun
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 ThoughtWrong Plurk CSS -Great tips from our very own ZenElements on the Plurk CSS and how to use it to your advantage.
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 Zen Elements says 2. How often do we find ourselves on each others actual profile as supposed to just our own timelines?
July 26, 2008 at 23:36 ThoughtWrong groups.google.com/project plurk (Project Plurk) - our google group for an open source custom css generator
July 26, 2008 at 23:37 Eric Odom says thoughtwrong your profile looks great, but messed up in my res www.plurkpix.com/pix/Hm.png
July 26, 2008 at 23:38 Eric Odom says I'm working on my css as we speak... thoughts?
July 26, 2008 at 23:38 ThoughtWrong says ericodom usually I am just thinking about myself and what I like to see, not sure why but to be honest it should work on any resolution
July 26, 2008 at 23:37 Zen Elements says does get that same smaller picture with my res, yeah.. anything over 1024 I think gets the blue background
July 26, 2008 at 23:38 AmberCadabra ZenElements that's exactly my view; YOU are the one that looks at your page the most
July 26, 2008 at 23:38 Zen Elements says nice city lights!!
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 ThoughtWrong says Yes, That is the next topic I wanted to discuss, your profile, is just that YOURS!
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 Zen Elements shares for EASIER response space, use this CSS: #input_small { height: 75px; }
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 Zen Elements says agreeing with you thoughtwrong
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 AmberCadabra ericodom being a chicago girl, I think i'm biased.
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 ThoughtWrong thinks you are he one who has to view it 90% of the time, be sure however that you make the text readable so new pleeps can find out who you are..
July 26, 2008 at 23:40 IamGay! says Exactly! Your Profile is just yours. And there are some who believe that having an "awesome" profile will attract more friends/fans
July 26, 2008 at 23:40 ThoughtWrong thinks ..without too much eye strain
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 TeegInDenver says shoot! Dh has decided he's ready to head to dinner *now* instead of in an hour. Will look forward to reading when we get back!
July 26, 2008 at 23:39 IamGay! says as to why they would want to add more friends/fans is beyond me though
July 26, 2008 at 23:40 ThoughtWrong says Teeg , take care
July 26, 2008 at 23:40 Eric Odom says as long as plurk doesn't allow music on page load it will never be like myspace imho
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 ThoughtWrong thinks More Pleeps = more conversation, yes it can get hectic but it can also be worth it
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 Zen Elements says hope you have a good supper Teeg
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 pritcharddesign says I like that I'm looking at a representation of me while plurking
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 uberdev was never a fan of plurks color schemes.
July 26, 2008 at 23:42 ConnieinDenver asks How complicated is it to customize your CSS? I know just enough HTML to be dangerous.
July 26, 2008 at 23:42 Zen Elements says very accurate point ericodem
July 26, 2008 at 23:42 ThoughtWrong thinks asks why uberdev?
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 Zen Elements hopes music never spreads to Plurk outwith linked videos, etc...
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 uberdev feels the same way ericodom
July 26, 2008 at 23:42 martinbogo eric Ummmm .. what if I said I found a way to do an <embed> tag?
July 26, 2008 at 23:41 pritcharddesign says Connie follow one of the available tutorials or get someone to help you
July 26, 2008 at 23:43 martinbogo ericodom I have a way of embedding a flash mp3 player now, but for the same reasons you mention, have not released or used the code
July 26, 2008 at 23:42 uberdev says connie css isn't really too much of a stretch from html, imho
July 26, 2008 at 23:43 martinbogo since it is mostly just a parsing bug on the part of A-Team. I should actually file it as a bug
July 26, 2008 at 23:43 ItyBites thinks CSS custom profiles are just like clothes, like pritcharddesign says it's a representation of her
July 26, 2008 at 23:43 ConnieinDenver I understand the principles of CSS, just have little experience using it. Are the tutorials on the Plurk blog?
July 26, 2008 at 23:44 ThoughtWrong thinks connie CSS is definately easy however fo people whom just do not want to or dont have the time to lear...
July 26, 2008 at 23:44 ConnieinDenver agrees w/ LaShae.
July 26, 2008 at 23:44 ThoughtWrong ...we have put together the google group to help out all the pleeps
July 26, 2008 at 23:44 uberdev says thoughtwrong, plurks colors to me really reak of vegas. i'm a big fan of simplicity
July 26, 2008 at 23:44 ConnieinDenver ah, cool.
July 26, 2008 at 23:45 ConnieinDenver Plurk's basic color schemes leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
July 26, 2008 at 23:45 ThoughtWrong thinks the CSS project will be benificial because it encompasses the true meaning of plurk, *togetherness* by having everyone work on an open
July 26, 2008 at 23:45 AmberCadabra would be great if we can gather links for tutorials here or in the recap on plurkshops.com
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 pritcharddesign says your google group link is *404*
July 26, 2008 at 23:45 ThoughtWrong thinks source program and then putting it on a website for all other pleeps to use
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 AmberCadabra connie I need RED, dangit
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 ThoughtWrong thinks here is a full CSS beginners tutorial this one is easy to follow and is how I learned
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 ThoughtWrong thinks not 404 here
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 pritcharddesign says cool. thanks
July 26, 2008 at 23:46 uberdev asks anyone who doesn't like custom css in plurk, do you apply the same philosophy in twitter?
July 26, 2008 at 23:47 Zen Elements says w3schools is a great resource for anyone looking to get a slightly more indepth look into CSS
July 26, 2008 at 23:48 ThoughtWrong thinks he wants to know what everyones views are on the Waynesutton post at mashable, how did that one go over with everyone?
July 26, 2008 at 23:48 ConnieinDenver Nobody *has* to use custom CSS, they can use Plurk as is.
July 26, 2008 at 23:49 pritcharddesign says I think a personalized profile page also reveals more about a person, making friending decisions easier
July 26, 2008 at 23:48 ConnieinDenver the proverbial lead balloon ... even with this mama
July 26, 2008 at 23:49 ThoughtWrong says very true connie , it is most definately your choice
July 26, 2008 at 23:49 ConnieinDenver with Wayne's mama
July 26, 2008 at 23:49 ItyBites wonders if it was a move for controversy to get people to look at plurk
July 26, 2008 at 23:49 ThoughtWrong thinks that was a funny post, she said "he stepped in it"
July 26, 2008 at 23:50 ConnieinDenver
July 26, 2008 at 23:51 AmberCadabra I had much less issue with his comments on CSS than I did with his blanket statements about the community. i'm defensive of my pleeps.
July 26, 2008 at 23:51 ThoughtWrong thinks that controversy can be good but how do you view myspace right now ItyBites ?
July 26, 2008 at 23:50 pritcharddesign thinks mashable post was a *verrry* narrow view of plurk
July 26, 2008 at 23:51 AmberCadabra connie that video is classic
July 26, 2008 at 23:51 uberdev says there is some validity comparing plurk and myspace. it seems the community for both is more homogenous. twitter stills seems very techy
July 26, 2008 at 23:52 LSFloyd says Totally agree ...no music please
July 26, 2008 at 23:52 ItyBites says I don't really use myspace too many problems
July 26, 2008 at 23:52 ThoughtWrong thinks yes but on the same token comparing us to myspace, most people view myspace as the teeny bopper hangout of the internet
July 26, 2008 at 23:52 pritcharddesign thinks ok, so some profiles on plurk may go tacky. There are people with tacky taste. What're you gonna do? Ban them?
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 ConnieinDenver and they view myspace as spammy and, in many instances, sleazy -- because there were no safeguards when it debuted.
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 Zen Elements says I agree the two communities are quite different really uberdev.
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 ConnieinDenver No, pritcharddesign. When I see tacky profiles it may cause me to question whether I friend them or not, but it's their prerogative.
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 pritcharddesign says so it's more about what kind of people will be attracted then the actual functionality
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 ThoughtWrong thinks that was just a bad comparison, via myspace to plurk.
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 Zen Elements says I have to say though, one of my strongest views is that we are not often 'on' each others profiles but our own timeline/profile.
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 ItyBites says exactly connie too much went on there too fast
July 26, 2008 at 23:54 IamGay! says Tacky taste is universally relative. If you hate the tackiness, remove as friend
July 26, 2008 at 23:53 pritcharddesign says I agree connie
July 26, 2008 at 23:54 ConnieinDenver The problem with Wayne's criticism, and he had to know this in spite of his disclaimers, is that in the circles he is in, myspace is
July 26, 2008 at 23:55 ConnieinDenver considered a social network wasteland. So even the hint of comparing it to Plurk made the post inflammatory.
July 26, 2008 at 23:55 pritcharddesign says I agree with IamGAY! and Zen Elements as well!
July 26, 2008 at 23:55 ThoughtWrong thinks So moving on..
July 26, 2008 at 23:56 pritcharddesign says right Connie and he went further by almost categorizing plurkers
July 26, 2008 at 23:55 ThoughtWrong asks how do you feel about the Plurk reaction to this post and the ensuing blog post they put up in response?
July 26, 2008 at 23:55 ConnieinDenver I haven't seen the blog post in response. Link, anyone?
July 26, 2008 at 23:57 ThoughtWrong says its on the plurk blog
July 26, 2008 at 23:57 ConnieinDenver thanks
July 26, 2008 at 23:57 ThoughtWrong says also in the links at the top of the thread connie
July 26, 2008 at 23:57 uberdev asks you like a person's perspective, comments, contribution to community but not their plurk page style. friend or no friend?
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 MikeFarho shares blog.plurk.com/
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 Zen Elements uberdev, I would friend. I'm rarely on a persons profile to judge and if they are interesting and awesome themselves, I'm happy.
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 ConnieinDenver uberdev - friend. The problem is that I might not have the basis for making that determination outside their profile page if no interaction
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 pritcharddesign says probably friend, but depends on what the plurk page shows
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 ThoughtWrong thinks it is amazing how Plurk developers take the time to read and respond "in their own unique way of course" to what people on their service are
July 26, 2008 at 23:58 ThoughtWrong saying
July 26, 2008 at 23:59 pritcharddesign says that's exactly why we're on plurk. not to just post links.
July 26, 2008 at 23:59 IamGay! says ubedev I would friend. It's their content I'm after. Besides, I wont be seeing their plurk page on my timeline.
July 27, 2008 at 00:00 pritcharddesign says oops, sorry, you said developers
July 27, 2008 at 00:00 pritcharddesign says I agree. The A-team has a great attitude
July 27, 2008 at 00:00 uberdev asks connie understood, but also the benefit of plurk is seeing people comment on your plurks who aren't on your friends list yet
July 27, 2008 at 00:01 ThoughtWrong I would friend uberdev, my judgement of people is based on quality of them being themselves.
July 27, 2008 at 00:01 ThoughtWrong even if i dont like a certian design they pick that is not my call, it is theirs. We are all unique
July 27, 2008 at 00:01 uberdev hates getting his qualifiers confused...
July 27, 2008 at 00:01 ThoughtWrong says LOL pritcharddesign
July 27, 2008 at 00:02 bloggeries is uberdev Your affinity for someone should have no bearing on their css imo. 90% of the time you're on your own background anyways.
July 27, 2008 at 00:02 ConnieinDenver uberdev That's one of the things I like about Plurk. I add people as friends after I've been in conversations with them.
July 27, 2008 at 00:03 ConnieinDenver And you're right, at that point CSS would have little to do with my decision, unless it was offensive in some way.
July 27, 2008 at 00:03 ThoughtWrong says bloggeries , didnt see you sneak in. My timeline been moving kinda slow in this thread
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 pritcharddesign says agree Connie. I like finding new people in other people's threads.
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 uberdev says what about the viral effect of sharing your profile? you have a community w/ a focus - ngo. spread your profile = spread word for non prof
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 pritcharddesign says you can friend people based on their comments, not the little in their profile
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 ConnieinDenver pritcharddesign it's kind of like "try before you buy."
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 ItyBites says first impressions happen usually before I get to their profile page
July 27, 2008 at 00:04 ThoughtWrong wonders what is everyones favorite CSS snippit of things they can change in their timeline so far?
July 27, 2008 at 00:05 MikeFarho thinks people need to work on their images. They need to be at least 1600 px wide and not huge in weight
July 27, 2008 at 00:05 Zen Elements specifically to update the size of your response textbox --- #input_small { height: 75px; } --- I've found this extremely useful.
July 27, 2008 at 00:06 ConnieinDenver Does the Google group have any CSS templates we can adapt for our own use?
July 27, 2008 at 00:06 IamGay! says ZenElements it is indeed very useful! thanks! just edited mine
July 27, 2008 at 00:07 pritcharddesign says ability to change verb bkgds .q_hopes { background: #5c4294; }
July 27, 2008 at 00:07 ItyBites says uberdev prof. and non-prof. - it's a good way to brand your company or yourself - done tastefully of course
July 27, 2008 at 00:07 Zen Elements says not as yet but they are coming I beleive connie. I have a basic format of some Plurk:CSS on my blog just now though if it'd help.
July 27, 2008 at 00:08 ConnieinDenver asks pritcharddesign Can we add our own verbs or just change the colors of the ones they aleady have?
July 27, 2008 at 00:08 ThoughtWrong thinks that it dose not atm connie, I plan to get some up and get going on the project monday but its been a hectic weekend thus far
July 27, 2008 at 00:08 Zen Elements likes that one too pritcharddesign bye bye 'lovely pink'
July 27, 2008 at 00:08 uberdev says well, i've really enjoyed the conversation here, but gotta go. everyone have a terrific evening!!!
July 27, 2008 at 00:09 ConnieinDenver That is great thoughtwrong. The generosity of the Plurkommunity will help those of us who are coding-challenged.
July 27, 2008 at 00:09 pritcharddesign says
July 27, 2008 at 00:09 pritcharddesign says bye uberdev
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 ItyBites asks which elements would you suggest a CSS noob play with?
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 ThoughtWrong bye uberdev
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 ItyBites uberdev
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 uberdev says bye pritcharddesign
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 ThoughtWrong is trying the plurkify room now as he was having technical issues w/ plurk updating
July 27, 2008 at 00:10 Zen Elements bye bye for now uberdev
July 27, 2008 at 00:11 uberdev says bye lashae thoughtwrong connie
July 27, 2008 at 00:11 ConnieinDenver bye uberdev
July 27, 2008 at 00:12 uberdev says goodnight beckysue, zenelements, and johnboy! hahah
July 27, 2008 at 00:12 ThoughtWrong Anyone have any suggestions on basic startup themes you all may like for your own plurk pages?
July 27, 2008 at 00:12 ConnieinDenver asks thoughtwrong Do we need to switch to the blog/chat? Plurk does seem to be slow updating.
July 27, 2008 at 00:11 AmberCadabra thoughtwrong I don't think the plurkify room is working anymore since they updated back end stuff
July 27, 2008 at 00:13 ThoughtWrong I just switched up to plurkify rooms connie , a little slow but works better than the non updating plurk atm
July 27, 2008 at 00:13 ThoughtWrong rooms.plurkify.com/1t28g
July 27, 2008 at 00:13 ConnieinDenver Okay, let me know if you want to switch to blog/chat.
July 27, 2008 at 00:13 ConnieinDenver I'm sticking here. Plurkify is too hard for me to read and doesn't autorefresh.
July 27, 2008 at 00:14 IamGay! on plurkify now
July 27, 2008 at 00:14 ThoughtWrong hmm, go ahead and switch to the blog/chat cvonnie, having issues o this end now as well
July 27, 2008 at 00:15 ConnieinDenver okay, give me 60 seconds .. or less
July 27, 2008 at 00:15 ThoughtWrong says no problems
July 27, 2008 at 00:15 Zen Elements says ItyBites - I would suggest good starting point is background colours, moving onto backgrounds graphics after that.
July 27, 2008 at 00:15 ConnieinDenver Here's the URL to continue the chat: plurkshops.com/?p=21
July 27, 2008 at 00:15 ConnieinDenver This is a Meebo widget embedded into Plurkshops blog. If you have a Meebo account, log in so your name displays properly.
July 27, 2008 at 00:16 pritcharddesign cool. never been in plurkify
July 27, 2008 at 00:16 Zen Elements says ItyBites, then you can look at font colours, font-type, etc.. let the fun role on w3schools is a great place to get a further insite to
July 27, 2008 at 00:16 MikeFarho says ditto Zen
July 27, 2008 at 00:17 ItyBites very cool thanks ZenElements
July 27, 2008 at 00:18 ConnieinDenver plurkshops.com/?p=21 for Meebo chat
July 27, 2008 at 00:18 ThoughtWrong thinks that he cannot login on the blog so we may stay here
July 27, 2008 at 00:19 Zen Elements says no problem ItyBites. I have a blog post here which might help some fellow plurkers out a little too
July 27, 2008 at 00:20 yoonamaniac guess she's a little too late
July 27, 2008 at 00:20 ItyBites I will be mining this plurkshop over the next week, playing with my CSS
July 27, 2008 at 00:20 ThoughtWrong says no problems yoonamaniac we are still here getting our CSS on
July 27, 2008 at 00:20 ThoughtWrong asks what are your thought?
July 27, 2008 at 00:21 ThoughtWrong feels ItyBites should keep up with the google group as well, we may have some tutorials coming there also
July 27, 2008 at 00:21 ConnieinDenver Sorry, the Meebo chat is not working properly either. I think we're just going to have to tough it out with a slow Plurk update.
July 27, 2008 at 00:21 ItyBites already bookmarked it so I can join Thougt
July 27, 2008 at 00:22 ThoughtWrong thinks toughing it out is cool, I am down for slow conversation vs no conversation
July 27, 2008 at 00:22 ItyBites sorry thoughtwrong
July 27, 2008 at 00:22 Zen Elements says I am going to work on some tutorials for the googleGroup/Plurk
July 27, 2008 at 00:22 ConnieinDenver Some tutorials and CSS templates that we could adapt to our own use would be awesome.
July 27, 2008 at 00:23 ConnieinDenver I know I could learn CSS and do it from scratch, but I really don't have the time to invest in doing that.
July 27, 2008 at 00:23 ThoughtWrong is definately going to be working on this in the next week
July 27, 2008 at 00:24 ThoughtWrong loves the idea of pleeps helping pleeps.
July 27, 2008 at 00:24 ItyBites thinks this could be a good intro to CSS for folks who don't have hosting and find WP and other places too intimidating
July 27, 2008 at 00:24 Zen Elements has some plans to get these things up for the googleGroup and will try to do so sooner too connie
July 27, 2008 at 00:24 ThoughtWrong thinks so too ItyBites
July 27, 2008 at 00:24 pritcharddesign for sure. Thanks Thoughtwrong!
July 27, 2008 at 00:25 MikeFarho says Thanks www.plurk.com/user/ZenElements for sharing your wisdom !
July 27, 2008 at 00:25 ThoughtWrong says ZenElements

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