July 26, 2008 at 18:31ThoughtWrongsaysHi everyone, I am thoughtwrong and welcome to the Plurkshop on Unique Designs in the Plurk World!
July 26, 2008 at 18:31ThoughtWrongToday we will be discussing what has seemed to be one of the most controversial topics over the past week on Plurk!
July 26, 2008 at 18:33ThoughtWrongThe custom CSS design and inplementation on Plurk profiles have been compared to "Myspace for the microblogging world"
July 26, 2008 at 18:33ThoughtWrongThis 'in my opinion' is most definately not the case.
July 26, 2008 at 18:34ThoughtWrongsayshowever, this is Plurk! So its not really about *just* my opinion now is it?
July 26, 2008 at 18:34ThoughtWrongsaysso before we get into comments/questions
July 26, 2008 at 18:34ThoughtWrongI have compiled a short list of links I would like to share before we get started just as a refrence for the conversations in this thread.
July 26, 2008 at 18:35Zen Elementshasto admit, I was a little concerned the mySpace effect would take a hold of Plurk but there are a few points to this...
July 26, 2008 at 18:38Eric OdomsaysI'm working on my css as we speak... thoughts?
July 26, 2008 at 18:38ThoughtWrongsaysericodom usually I am just thinking about myself and what I like to see, not sure why but to be honest it should work on any resolution
July 26, 2008 at 18:37Zen Elementssaysdoes get that same smaller picture with my res, yeah.. anything over 1024 I think gets the blue background
July 26, 2008 at 18:38AmberCadabraZenElements that's exactly my view; YOU are the one that looks at your page the most
July 26, 2008 at 18:38Zen Elementssaysnice city lights!!
July 26, 2008 at 18:39ThoughtWrongsaysYes, That is the next topic I wanted to discuss, your profile, is just that YOURS!
July 26, 2008 at 18:39Zen Elementssharesfor EASIER response space, use this CSS: #input_small { height: 75px; }
July 26, 2008 at 18:39AmberCadabraericodom being a chicago girl, I think i'm biased.
July 26, 2008 at 18:39ThoughtWrongthinksyou are he one who has to view it 90% of the time, be sure however that you make the text readable so new pleeps can find out who you are..
July 26, 2008 at 18:40IamGay!saysExactly! Your Profile is just yours. And there are some who believe that having an "awesome" profile will attract more friends/fans
July 26, 2008 at 18:40ThoughtWrongthinks..without too much eye strain
July 26, 2008 at 18:39Teegsaysshoot! Dh has decided he's ready to head to dinner *now* instead of in an hour. Will look forward to reading when we get back!
July 26, 2008 at 18:39IamGay!saysas to why they would want to add more friends/fans is beyond me though
July 26, 2008 at 18:42martinbogoeric Ummmm .. what if I said I found a way to do an <embed> tag?
July 26, 2008 at 18:41pritcharddesignsaysConnie follow one of the available tutorials or get someone to help you
July 26, 2008 at 18:43martinbogoericodom I have a way of embedding a flash mp3 player now, but for the same reasons you mention, have not released or used the code
July 26, 2008 at 18:42uberdevsaysconnie css isn't really too much of a stretch from html, imho
July 26, 2008 at 18:43martinbogosince it is mostly just a parsing bug on the part of A-Team. I should actually file it as a bug
July 26, 2008 at 18:43LaShaethinksCSS custom profiles are just like clothes, like pritcharddesign says it's a representation of her
July 26, 2008 at 18:43ConnieI understand the principles of CSS, just have little experience using it. Are the tutorials on the Plurk blog?
July 26, 2008 at 18:44ThoughtWrongthinksconnie CSS is definately easy however fo people whom just do not want to or dont have the time to lear...
July 26, 2008 at 18:45ConniePlurk's basic color schemes leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
July 26, 2008 at 18:45ThoughtWrongthinksthe CSS project will be benificial because it encompasses the true meaning of plurk, *togetherness* by having everyone work on an open
July 26, 2008 at 18:45AmberCadabrawould be great if we can gather links for tutorials here or in the recap on plurkshops.com
July 26, 2008 at 18:46pritcharddesignsaysyour google group link is *404*
July 26, 2008 at 18:45ThoughtWrongthinkssource program and then putting it on a website for all other pleeps to use
July 26, 2008 at 18:46uberdevasksanyone who doesn't like custom css in plurk, do you apply the same philosophy in twitter?
July 26, 2008 at 18:47Zen Elementssaysw3schools is a great resource for anyone looking to get a slightly more indepth look into CSS
July 26, 2008 at 18:48ThoughtWrongthinkshe wants to know what everyones views are on the Waynesutton post at mashable, how did that one go over with everyone?
July 26, 2008 at 18:48ConnieNobody *has* to use custom CSS, they can use Plurk as is.
July 26, 2008 at 18:49pritcharddesignsaysI think a personalized profile page also reveals more about a person, making friending decisions easier
July 26, 2008 at 18:48Conniethe proverbial lead balloon ... even with this mama
July 26, 2008 at 18:49ThoughtWrongsaysvery true connie , it is most definately your choice
July 26, 2008 at 18:51AmberCadabraI had much less issue with his comments on CSS than I did with his blanket statements about the community. i'm defensive of my pleeps.
July 26, 2008 at 18:51ThoughtWrongthinksthat controversy can be good but how do you view myspace right now ItyBites ?
July 26, 2008 at 18:50pritcharddesignthinksmashable post was a *verrry* narrow view of plurk
July 26, 2008 at 18:51uberdevsaysthere is some validity comparing plurk and myspace. it seems the community for both is more homogenous. twitter stills seems very techy
July 26, 2008 at 18:52LSFloydsaysTotally agree ...no music please
July 26, 2008 at 18:52LaShaesaysI don't really use myspace too many problems
July 26, 2008 at 18:52ThoughtWrongthinksyes but on the same token comparing us to myspace, most people view myspace as the teeny bopper hangout of the internet
July 26, 2008 at 18:52pritcharddesignthinksok, so some profiles on plurk may go tacky. There are people with tacky taste. What're you gonna do? Ban them?
July 26, 2008 at 18:53Connieand they view myspace as spammy and, in many instances, sleazy -- because there were no safeguards when it debuted.
July 26, 2008 at 18:53Zen ElementssaysI agree the two communities are quite different really uberdev.
July 26, 2008 at 18:53ConnieNo, pritcharddesign. When I see tacky profiles it may cause me to question whether I friend them or not, but it's their prerogative.
July 26, 2008 at 18:53pritcharddesignsaysso it's more about what kind of people will be attracted then the actual functionality
July 26, 2008 at 18:53ThoughtWrongthinksthat was just a bad comparison, via myspace to plurk.
July 26, 2008 at 18:53Zen ElementssaysI have to say though, one of my strongest views is that we are not often 'on' each others profiles but our own timeline/profile.
July 26, 2008 at 18:53LaShaesaysexactly connie too much went on there too fast
July 26, 2008 at 18:54IamGay!saysTacky taste is universally relative. If you hate the tackiness, remove as friend
July 26, 2008 at 18:54ConnieThe problem with Wayne's criticism, and he had to know this in spite of his disclaimers, is that in the circles he is in, myspace is
July 26, 2008 at 18:55Connieconsidered a social network wasteland. So even the hint of comparing it to Plurk made the post inflammatory.
July 26, 2008 at 18:57ThoughtWrongsaysalso in the links at the top of the thread connie
July 26, 2008 at 18:57uberdevasksyou like a person's perspective, comments, contribution to community but not their plurk page style. friend or no friend?
July 26, 2008 at 18:58Zen Elementsuberdev, I would friend. I'm rarely on a persons profile to judge and if they are interesting and awesome themselves, I'm happy.
July 26, 2008 at 18:58Connieuberdev - friend. The problem is that I might not have the basis for making that determination outside their profile page if no interaction
July 26, 2008 at 18:58pritcharddesignsaysprobably friend, but depends on what the plurk page shows
July 26, 2008 at 18:58ThoughtWrongthinksit is amazing how Plurk developers take the time to read and respond "in their own unique way of course" to what people on their service are
July 26, 2008 at 18:59pritcharddesignsaysthat's exactly why we're on plurk. not to just post links.
July 26, 2008 at 18:59IamGay!saysubedev I would friend. It's their content I'm after. Besides, I wont be seeing their plurk page on my timeline.
July 26, 2008 at 19:00pritcharddesignsaysoops, sorry, you said developers
July 26, 2008 at 19:00pritcharddesignsaysI agree. The A-team has a great attitude
July 26, 2008 at 19:00uberdevasksconnie understood, but also the benefit of plurk is seeing people comment on your plurks who aren't on your friends list yet
July 26, 2008 at 19:01ThoughtWrongI would friend uberdev, my judgement of people is based on quality of them being themselves.
July 26, 2008 at 19:01ThoughtWrongeven if i dont like a certian design they pick that is not my call, it is theirs. We are all unique
July 26, 2008 at 19:01uberdevhatesgetting his qualifiers confused...
July 26, 2008 at 19:02bloggeriesisuberdev Your affinity for someone should have no bearing on their css imo. 90% of the time you're on your own background anyways.
July 26, 2008 at 19:02Connieuberdev That's one of the things I like about Plurk. I add people as friends after I've been in conversations with them.
July 26, 2008 at 19:03ConnieAnd you're right, at that point CSS would have little to do with my decision, unless it was offensive in some way.
July 26, 2008 at 19:03ThoughtWrongsaysbloggeries , didnt see you sneak in. My timeline been moving kinda slow in this thread
July 26, 2008 at 19:04pritcharddesignsaysagree Connie. I like finding new people in other people's threads.
July 26, 2008 at 19:04uberdevsayswhat about the viral effect of sharing your profile? you have a community w/ a focus - ngo. spread your profile = spread word for non prof
July 26, 2008 at 19:04pritcharddesignsaysyou can friend people based on their comments, not the little in their profile
July 26, 2008 at 19:04LaShaesaysfirst impressions happen usually before I get to their profile page
July 26, 2008 at 19:04ThoughtWrongwonderswhat is everyones favorite CSS snippit of things they can change in their timeline so far?
July 26, 2008 at 19:05MikeFarhothinkspeople need to work on their images. They need to be at least 1600 px wide and not huge in weight
July 26, 2008 at 19:05Zen Elementsspecifically to update the size of your response textbox --- #input_small { height: 75px; } --- I've found this extremely useful.
July 26, 2008 at 19:06ConnieDoes the Google group have any CSS templates we can adapt for our own use?
July 26, 2008 at 19:06IamGay!saysZenElements it is indeed very useful! thanks! just edited mine
July 26, 2008 at 19:07pritcharddesignsaysability to change verb bkgds .q_hopes { background: #5c4294; }
July 26, 2008 at 19:07LaShaesaysuberdev prof. and non-prof. - it's a good way to brand your company or yourself - done tastefully of course
July 26, 2008 at 19:07Zen Elementssaysnot as yet but they are coming I beleive connie. I have a basic format of some Plurk:CSS on my blog just now though if it'd help.
July 26, 2008 at 19:08Connieaskspritcharddesign Can we add our own verbs or just change the colors of the ones they aleady have?
July 26, 2008 at 19:08ThoughtWrongthinksthat it dose not atm connie, I plan to get some up and get going on the project monday but its been a hectic weekend thus far
July 26, 2008 at 19:15Zen ElementssaysItyBites - I would suggest good starting point is background colours, moving onto backgrounds graphics after that.
July 26, 2008 at 19:15ConnieThis is a Meebo widget embedded into Plurkshops blog. If you have a Meebo account, log in so your name displays properly.
July 26, 2008 at 19:16pritcharddesigncool. never been in plurkify
July 26, 2008 at 19:16Zen ElementssaysItyBites, then you can look at font colours, font-type, etc.. let the fun role on w3schools is a great place to get a further insite to
July 26, 2008 at 19:18ThoughtWrongthinksthat he cannot login on the blog so we may stay here
July 26, 2008 at 19:19Zen Elementssaysno problem ItyBites. I have a blog post here which might help some fellow plurkers out a little too
July 26, 2008 at 19:20yoonamaniacguess she's a little too late
July 26, 2008 at 19:20LaShaeI will be mining this plurkshop over the next week, playing with my CSS
July 26, 2008 at 19:20ThoughtWrongsaysno problems yoonamaniac we are still here getting our CSS on
July 26, 2008 at 19:20ThoughtWrongaskswhat are your thought?
July 26, 2008 at 19:21ThoughtWrongfeelsItyBites should keep up with the google group as well, we may have some tutorials coming there also
July 26, 2008 at 19:21ConnieSorry, the Meebo chat is not working properly either. I think we're just going to have to tough it out with a slow Plurk update.
July 26, 2008 at 19:21LaShaealready bookmarked it so I can join Thougt
July 26, 2008 at 19:22ThoughtWrongthinkstoughing it out is cool, I am down for slow conversation vs no conversation
July 26, 2008 at 19:24pritcharddesignI've learned alot since joining plurk
July 26, 2008 at 19:26yoonamaniacwell, not changing my own profile because I like things clean and simple, and what they have suits me just fine
July 26, 2008 at 19:26ConniePlurk has turned out to be a great place for sharing knowledge - but that's a reflection on the people as well as the platform.
July 26, 2008 at 19:25ThoughtWrongthinksPlurk is a place for learning and sharing and helping others, I love all my friends and would bend over backwards for em'
July 26, 2008 at 19:26Zen Elementshasto donder off a little moment but great PlurkShop today thoughtwrong and was intersting to hear peoples views on things too!
July 26, 2008 at 19:27yoonamaniacand I don't give a rat's tiny ass how tacky others make their profiles to be since I rarely have to see them
July 26, 2008 at 19:28ConnieThoughtwrong, I think we should have part 2 of this conversation when the Google group is farther along.
July 26, 2008 at 19:29ThoughtWrongthinksyoonamaniac hit the nail on the head, its all about what you like not the 5% that other pleeps spend on your profile
July 26, 2008 at 19:29MikeFarhoasksWhat is the code for increasing the height of the main plurk input?
July 26, 2008 at 19:29ThoughtWrongthinksthat would be a great idea connie I will look foreward to that and maybe we can get more involvemet with plurk acting better.
July 26, 2008 at 19:29Connieasksthe main plurk input, Farho? or the text box for responding?
July 26, 2008 at 19:30pritcharddesignI think it's just 'cause it's saturday night.
July 26, 2008 at 19:29ConnieYes, thoughtwrong Plurk has been slooooww tonight.
July 26, 2008 at 19:29yoonamaniacoh the responses are not updating timely
July 26, 2008 at 19:30yoonamaniacwaswondering why nobody was replying
July 26, 2008 at 19:30ThoughtWrongsayshrrm...farho I would have to look through the CSS and see if I could hash it out
July 26, 2008 at 19:30yoonamaniacfelt all alone and scared...
July 26, 2008 at 19:30ThoughtWrongsaysgimme a little while and I could PM you about it
July 26, 2008 at 19:30LaShaethanks for hosting thoughtwrong and to all the pleeps a plurking tonight on Plurkshop #10
July 26, 2008 at 19:30ConnieIf you scroll back, Farho, you'll find a bit of code -- but I think it's for the text box where you respond.
July 26, 2008 at 19:31ConnieThanks for participating, LaShae.
July 26, 2008 at 19:31MikeFarhosaysyes Connie the main plurk input
July 26, 2008 at 19:33ConnieThank you for all your thoughts, Thoughtwrong. (who is usually thinkingright)
July 26, 2008 at 19:34ThoughtWrongAmberCadabra I can do that. Am I authorized to post on plurkshops or will I need to be sending a copy to one of you alkl
July 26, 2008 at 19:56IamGay!gotta go. Thanks for the great tips and info everyone!
July 26, 2008 at 21:05thekiddsisso sad she missed the party but got lots of good info and wrote down all the links to peruse later. Thanks thoughtwrong for doing this!