waynesutton shares Jul 15, 2008 02:37PM how to make money on your twitter background 1. extended bck. 2. display ad. 3. tweet 5 times a day for sponsor 4. charge $20 a week
Myriam ★彡 says Jul 15, 2008 06:40PM ok waynesutton let's make a contract, i will do it for you not on my private account but on my @ speedenglish account
waynesutton Jul 15, 2008 06:40PM the extended background came from this: mashable.com/2008/06/30/twitter-enhanced-profile/
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 06:41PM if most of your conversation is still the same they won't mind 5 tweets a day
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:42PM I think you're going to get some people who stop trusting your tweets as sharing vs. pimping
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:43PM Tweeting something and sharing it because you like/hate/believe/want discussion is one thing
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:46PM I follow people because they interest me and contribute to the dialogue. If someone started "sponsoring" their tweets i'd unfollow them.
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:47PM The companies that tweet do so to engage and talk with people on a human basis, not to pimp their company or brand.
Myriam ★彡 says Jul 15, 2008 06:47PM 5 time a day for a sponsor ? or you are clever to hide it with humor, or you lost your followers
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:47PM It's about building trust and relationships, not direct selling IMO
LidiaAnain says Jul 15, 2008 06:47PM sophiaperennis makes a great point about no one seeing the ads anywho & AmberCadabra said exactly what I did in the other thread
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 06:47PM So for $20 a week, you are going to potentially erode your brand and trust with others? You are selling yourself WAY too cheaply my man.
Myriam ★彡 says Jul 15, 2008 06:48PM you can do this 2or 3 time a week with product placement and must be very careful
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 06:48PM and the problem with this is, as Amber alludes to, it says that 'everything I say is for sale'. Again, that kills trust
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:49PM not everything has to be monetized, and this just make people think that you can be bought.
LidiaAnain says Jul 15, 2008 06:49PM put the ads on your personal blogs, web sites and don't turn people who actually think you are half decent into a number
Myriam ★彡 says Jul 15, 2008 06:49PM allthough US culture and approch is very different than European one
LidiaAnain says Jul 15, 2008 06:49PM AmberCadabra a lot of people can be be bought and a lot of people value MONEY more than actual connections
AmberCadabra Jul 15, 2008 06:50PM you're right Lidia. i'm sure some people woudl do this in a heartbeat, but I would never compromise my brand that way.
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 06:51PM I NOT SAYING I DO that but if you look at the web people are gaming us!
LidiaAnain says Jul 15, 2008 06:52PM and that is EXACTLY why mySpace failed and why many socnets will go the way of mySpace
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 06:53PM good point everyone but whats the difference between ads on your twitter & ads on your blog?
LidiaAnain thinks Jul 15, 2008 06:55PM the difference is that on blogs we expect it because they could help pay for your hosting bandwidth we eat up by visiting your site
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 06:55PM Wayne I dont do ads on my blog for the same reason, they would give little/no value to my readers
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 06:55PM any successful monetization of your content needs to also provide VALUE for people that are interacting with your content. Period.
thefencepost Jul 15, 2008 07:02PM wow waynesutton good job stirring up REAL conversation in plurksville!
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 07:02PM plurk has it's advantages for conversation over twitter...yes I said it
thefencepost asks Jul 15, 2008 07:03PM i can't tell you how many blogs are out there promoting products and aren't even getting paid for it
thefencepost asks Jul 15, 2008 07:04PM look at your own blog people, what do you write about, ever mention any products it it?
Myriam ★彡 says Jul 15, 2008 07:04PM there's a difference if you put ads on the bckground and if you twitt content as ads
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 07:04PM so true people pimp promote things they love.. Apple/iPhone prime example
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 07:05PM Pimping and monetizing are two completely diff things, both can be done, but need to be done smartly
kbodnar32 says Jul 15, 2008 07:05PM Wayne this had been a brilliant move to boost you plurk karma. Bravo.
Jalapeno says Jul 15, 2008 07:05PM twitter is SO SPAM Scared i don't know it would work. Spammer, Spammer, block, block, block.. lighten up. don't like their tweets unfollow
thefencepost says Jul 15, 2008 07:06PM if someone wants to pay me to put ads relevant to my personal products, I'd do it
thefencepost says Jul 15, 2008 07:07PM people that are following 3000, and only have 2 followers usually is my first hint
MackCollier says Jul 15, 2008 07:08PM Fence I say that's not that bad, because you are already evangelizing that product, and your readers would likely be fine with it
LidiaAnain says Jul 15, 2008 07:08PM u all can pimp all day but I will not turn tricks for ya! I would unfollow the minute I smell spam!
thefencepost says Jul 15, 2008 07:10PM have to say, this has been a good topic whether you agree with it or not!
gwfrink3 Jul 15, 2008 07:19PM LidiaAnain hits it right on the nose for a lot of people. Ad=unfollow. I would appreciate a couple of live examples, waynesutton.
clayn asks Jul 15, 2008 07:22PM don't you think that has diminishing value, as people move to third party apps like Twhirl?
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 07:23PM interesting topic, I'm going to make the background & share it & see if people use it
waynesutton says Jul 15, 2008 07:26PM either way I must say thanks for the conversation and I'm not going to spam or try to sell u anything but social media
waynesutton Jul 15, 2008 07:31PM clayn yes but look at what twitteriffic did, an add if not for the pro-version & most people don't mind it
gwfrink3 Jul 15, 2008 07:39PM most people don't mind as the price of the application waynesutton. I think the perceived economies are important.
PatriciaMuller says Jul 15, 2008 07:46PM I haven't read all replies, but I just want to say that if lots of people follow Wayne, it's because he provide value.
PatriciaMuller says Jul 15, 2008 07:46PM If he ever chooses to do that (ads), he'll continue to provide value. Same way ads work on blogs.
herb says Jul 15, 2008 08:56PM it's the signal to noise ratio... If the noise becomes too great (people have different tolerances), he would lose followers.
gwfrink3 Jul 15, 2008 09:45PM ads work, PatriciaMuller, and also have side-effects which vary based on many factors. They're undeniable and real.