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[spread it!] Petition to stop the forced sterilization of Uzbekistan women by their govt. REPLURK LIKE FIRE
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Claude and the full audio version
Claude I urge you to replurk this if the idea of women having their uteruses removed without their knowledge or consent disturbs you in any way
Claude and spread the link to other off-plurk places
Claude thank you very much '-'b
Claude this is also my first change.org petition so I apologize if it's less than smooth
Claude ....maybe I should've waited to plurk it until a saner hour 8(
Claude OH WELL
Gokudere Maybe it can go up in a new plurk later too :|a
Gokudere For added visibility.
Claude yus 8|a
Claude but for now bed for me, and working on this thing more tomorrow
TITAN DAZE wow what no
moonlit This is disgusting.
Claude featherine for me the worst part of it may be just how off-the-radar it is
Claude and how it and other human rights abuses in the counter may be potentially overlooked by the US and EU governments due to them being a
Claude "key location" re: dealing with Afghanistan
Claude "WE KIND OF WANT YOUR HELP so we'll not talk about those things okok 8U"
moonlit .... 
moonlit This is the first I've heard of it. Thank you so much for putting this up.
Claude no, thank you for helping sign onto it 
signal boost however you can
signal boost however you canClaude I have a very tiny social network, but I'm hoping if it gets passed on successively it might actually go somewhere
moonlit Yeah. I' signal-boosted it.
Claude because of that connection to US foreign
Claude *iffy US/EU foreign policy decisions it may not be a thing that gets as much of a spotlight in the mainstream media
Claude UPDATE: Ironically a conference on healthy mothers and children was just held on the 12th between the--
Claude Ministry of Health and the United Nations Population Fund to discuss "the protection of maternity and childhood"
Claude gdit let me link tweets plurk o9"
Claude MEANWHILE, according to Natalia Antelava (the BBC journalist who did the investigation and subsequently got ejected from the country), the
Claude Uzbekistan government has responded to the report calling it "nothing to do with reality, purposeful libel against the country"
Claude the tweet is here: https://twitter.com/#!/a...
moonlit ... Really.
Claude yes maybe you could tell that to the respective women who only found out they were sterile after they started bleeding mysteriously
moonlit PRETTY MUCH
Claude "we don't know what happened to your uterus! Maybe you dropped it 8|a"
TITAN DAZE ,,,,,,,
focus, nerd! ...but why the fuck do they do this
focus, nerd! like
focus, nerd! i actually don't understand why a goverment would logically sanction this?
focus, nerd! like usually it's a method of population control or ethnic cleansing but neither of those seem to be happening?
Claude talkingsoup according to the statements from people in the medical profession there does seem to be a connection to population control, as
Claude well as a high possibility of it being part of a bizarre initiative to try and boost Uzbekistan's rankings in international league tables
focus, nerd! buuuuut uzbekistan isn't exactly the first country you think of when you think overpopulation.....
Claude in terms of infant and maternal mortality rates
focus, nerd! man this is just. the weirdest fucking method for doing that
focus, nerd! this is like wanting good SAT scores so you set your SAT sheets on fire...
Claude Magicsocks funny, it should be open to you guys too 8<a there's signatures from the UK and Canada and France
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ Huh, I'm not seeing a way to avoid the "select a state" part...
Claude oh wait hang on the FAQ says:
Claude Change.org attempts to detect your country of origin based on your IP address.
Claude Occasionally, we are not always able to accurately detect your country so it defaults to the U.S. form. You can always change it manually.
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ Nope. D:
Claude if not, are you using any proxies/anonymizer stuff? or try another browser
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ I don't believe I am! I'll try it in IE.
Claude Lemme know how it turns out
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ Nope, not working. I'll note down the URL and try it on one of the computers at my college on Monday, though.
Claude Magicsocks Sorry about that 8( Thanks for PLOWING ON THROUGH though
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ You're welcome! THis needs as many signatures as possible.
Claude Indeed o9"
тαвяιѕ χχ Signed and replurk!
Claude helbindi Koala_Nest thank you <3
ikimm27 says this would be the unlikeliest place i think to see a matt smith gif...[totally unexpected!]
вeyoɴceαɴdry ♔ also jsyk, the # in the url will keep the page from loading
Claude idealistic: whups. Okay I just edited it to remove the #
Claude thanks for the heads-up :|b
Claude UPDATE: currently past the 50 signature mark, thanks all you guys <3
Claude IT IS SLOW GOING AT THE START but we've gotta keep plugging at it so don't give up :<b it's an obscure issue so there's def. less of a
Claude superfast response to this kind of thing
Claude but one by one we'll build it up
Claude so keep spreading it to wherever you can, other forms of social media, submitting it to popular blogs, etc
Claude or even just emailing people you know who would be concerned about this
Claude friends, family, colleagues, contacts
Claude anyone for whom the thought of having your ability to have a child with your partner ripped away by your government without consent is a
Claude unfathomable thing
ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу Would love to sign but can't since I'm outside US. I replurked though!
Claude ceyly try with a different browser? :< someone else reported the same problem too, but others have been able to sign from outside the US
Claude I'll submit a report to Change.org tomorrow about this and see whether they can do something to address it
Claude since in theory their site should support international movement, not just US-only
Claude so do stay in touch
Claude UPDATE: currently at 80 signatures o>
Claude Magicsocks iceyly - by the way if you guys could give me the info on which browser(s) you used + OS + geographical location it would help
Claude in making the report to the Change.org staff about the geographical issue thing 8<b
ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ I use Firefox & Windows 7 & I'm in the UK.
ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу Uhm, I'm in Europe and I am european
ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу So the easiest might probably be if you could have them make the petition international or to remake it
ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу So that it's international from the start?
Zita Holy shit.
Claude iceyly the thing is that there weren't any geographical parameters to set during the making of the petition 8<a
Claude I doublechecked before I put it up
Claude apart from "who do you want this petition sent to", where the options are offered to tickybox the US government options, and also to manuall
Claude y add names+emails+titles of others
C❂in Battler signed and replurked! People should be able to choose whether or not they'll undergo things like that!!
VastRaveninGoa STOP THE PLANET I WANT TO GET OFF B[
VastRaveninGoa Take and share the glory of Thor tableflipping! I don't even recall where I ganked it from myself <:
Claude \o/
Claude AWRIGHT UPDATE: 100 signatures reach GOOD JOB GUYS
Claude *reached, even
Claude And in other news, the report is slowly gathering wider mainstream coverage: MSNBC ran a Reality Check segment on it
Claude the reporter in that video opens with how even as the debate on the War on Women in the USA rages on, similar wars are being waged in other
Claude parts of the world-- and far more blatantly horrifically so
marmalade The Uzbek government's record on human rights is a huge mess anyway.
marmalade I mean, it's actually better now than it was about 6 years ago, when the British ambassador discovered prisoners being boiled alive, buuut.
Claude magnificentbastards Yup, but it's also not a very well-noticed record compared to those of a lot of other places that get the media spot-
Claude light
marmalade Yeah.
Claude which is all the more reason that it needs to be highlighted, and pressure applied because of it, onto the decisionmakers who would otherwi
Claude se prefer to make the black deal of overlooking these things "for now" because of other diplomatic/political factors
Claude it's true that it might not stop them anyway, but
Claude they need to at least know that people know about this, have heard about it, and Do Not Consider It Okay
marmalade Oh, absolutely. And I... am hardly an expert on Uzbek international relations, so I can't say how much things are being overlooked
marmalade for the sake of other factors-- I know Uzbekistan was supportive of the Bush regime after 9/11, and that was part of why its human rights
marmalade violations were previously being ignored, but I'm not sure what the situation is now
marmalade ...obviously this is all off-topic and the actual subject of the petition is horrific and should have attention drawn to it
marmalade as much as possible
marmalade Also, I didn't watch the documentary, was there anything in there about why the government is sterilising women?
Homicidal A.I oh...I can't sign, not American
marmalade Same /o\ which is weird, I can usually sign change.org petitions fine.
Homicidal A.I same.
Homicidal A.I this is the first time I've ever been told I can't
Claude I know which is bizarre 8( I could sign things when I was in the UK, too
Claude I've sent in a report to the support staff so hopefully they'll get back to me on it
Claude I'm pretty sure a lot of signatures that could be on there aren't because of this problem too o9"
Game Over I'm just curious but... what good is it going to do for Americans to sign a petition about something that's happening in another country?
Game Over I mean the whole thing is disturbing but, it's not our country? Is the UN going to get involved?
marmalade I'm pretty sure the UN could, if it's a human rights violation on the scale it allegedly is here
marmalade If there are still close links between the US and Uzbek governments and this became enough of an issue, the US government could cut ties
Game Over That's somewhat reassuring.
Game Over That whole thing smacks somewhat of eugenics though. I wonder what class of women are being targeted
ja'far yeah, UN might be able to, depending
ja'far I was surprised that this is a petition to the president instead of to something like the UN or an international agency
marmalade Maybe it's aimed for the ambassador? Or maybe the person who made the petition just didn't really know what they were doing.
Game Over It really should be, if they signed the UDHR.
marmalade They did! But there's also a whole lot of stuff in the constitution that the Uzbek government by no means follows. at all.
Game Over The UDHR isn't something the US can really enforce...
Claude it's addressed to more than just the US though, from the looks of it
Claude *being sent to rather
marmalade No, but ambassadors do deal with human rights issues
Game Over Three of the 8 are US based. The President, the Senate, and the House of Reps, none of those are the Ambassador.
Game Over Oh good, the HRVP is listed.
marmalade Oh, in that case I have no idea
Claude Also guys I actually started the petition 8(;; and yes I was kind of finding my way through it, so I apologize for the roughness
Claude I think I can still edit it to add more recipients, though, so if you guys would like to rec more people it should be sent to, please do
Claude names, titles, positions, references
Game Over It's just kinda weird that the UN itself isn't listed but India and China are. I just hope it gets to the right people. Because wow I would
Game Over smack a bitch if anyone came at me with a scalpel
Claude (at least you guys are telling me this early instead of something like 100000 signatures later, which would be a sadness)
Game Over INTERESTINGLY, the exact opposite is happening in South America. Forget which country, but the girls there are like "lol nope" after one
Claude By the Ambassador do you guys mean the US Ambassador to Uzbekistan or the Uzbekistan Ambassador to the US?
Game Over maybe two babies.
Claude (or both?)
ja'far can you try for the UN? I know they deal a lot with women's rights, even if it's all caught up in bureaucracy
marmalade Oh, sorry for inadvertently kind of insulting you there
ja'far and mmm I would say both
marmalade Uh, I would say the US ambassador to Uzbekistan
ja'far lean towards the American one though
marmalade just because there is a precedent of foreign ambassadors to Uzbekistan having an impact on the human rights situation
Game Over I'd just plop down both for redundancy's sake. The more people it gets out to the better.
marmalade Both works too
Game Over As long as the US's reps are listed might as well include the UK's too.
Agent P And of course see if you can make this open to all to sign.
Claude magnificentbastards no it's okay I wasn't insulted :<a it was true
Claude I'm learning!! it's a learning experience
Claude in activism
marmalade Okay. I probably could have phrased it better though! But yeah.
marmalade Do include the UK ambassador.
Claude good thing there doesn't appear to be a limit on the number of people this can be sent to
Claude (or possibly haven't hit it yet)
Claude --plurk gdit o9"
Claude offduty: Change.org actually has the US reps specially easily entered into the list of recipients (you just have to check ticky boxes for
Claude State, Federal categories, etc), whereas other recipients have to be manually input
Claude I'm not so familiar with UK reps but if you could recommend some that would be a great start while I work on getting ambassador info :<b
marmalade Oh, uh... the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan at the moment is called Rupert Joy, but he's coming to the end of his term afaik
marmalade Apart from that all I can think would be the House of Commons
Game Over Plurk is telling me I've been spamming, which I haven't. Otherwise I'd give you some links
Game Over trythisbutadd the http stuff and such : dfid.gov.uk/
Game Over Dammit plurk
Claude ok I just added the US and UK ambassadors (George Krol and Rupert Joy). Next....
Claude let's see, UN contacts :|a
Game Over Screw plurk so hard fco.gov.uk/en/
Claude or wait right the Uzbekistan ambassadors to those places too
Claude Alright, added the Uzbekistan ambassadors to the US and UK, as well as to the UN Women's Regional Director to Central Asia, and the
Claude UN Women Gender Advisor to Uzbekistan
moved plurks Why has this not been boosted everywhere.
Claude ...also added Norbert Jousten, EU Ambassador to Uzbekistan
Claude man, why didn't I add this before
Claude offduty hmm , the DFID doesn't actually work in Uzbekistan so I'm not sure about contacting them 8<a
Game Over I gave what I had. It's up to you to decide on it.
Claude gotcha o>
Claude right, added UK Foreign Secretary William Hague to it
Claude UPDATE: 125 signatures!!!
Claude so if anyone uses those platforms and would like to spread the word further, there's things to reblog from there
Claude or retweet
Claude offduty The thing is that the Change.org system is set up so you can actually just check ticky boxes to send stuff out to the US State/
Claude UPDATE: PRI (Public Radio International) interviews the BBC reporter who did the 2-year investigation
Claude There's a text transcript of the audio interview
Claude "The doctors I talked to have said that they do receive direct orders from their bosses, the heads of hospitals, the heads of local
Claude administration and get these government quotas on how many women they need to sterilize each month."
Claude ....quotas, even