Claude I urge you to replurk this if the idea of women having their uteruses removed without their knowledge or consent disturbs you in any way Claude and spread the link to other off-plurk places Claude thank you very much '-'b Claude this is also my first change.org petition so I apologize if it's less than smooth Claude ....maybe I should've waited to plurk it until a saner hour 8( Gokudere Maybe it can go up in a new plurk later too :|a Claude but for now bed for me, and working on this thing more tomorrow Claude featherine for me the worst part of it may be just how off-the-radar it is Claude and how it and other human rights abuses in the counter may be potentially overlooked by the US and EU governments due to them being a Claude "key location" re: dealing with Afghanistan Claude "WE KIND OF WANT YOUR HELP so we'll not talk about those things okok 8U" moonlit This is the first I've heard of it. Thank you so much for putting this up. Claude no, thank you for helping sign onto it signal boost however you can Claude I have a very tiny social network, but I'm hoping if it gets passed on successively it might actually go somewhere moonlit Yeah. I' signal-boosted it. Claude because of that connection to US foreign Claude *iffy US/EU foreign policy decisions it may not be a thing that gets as much of a spotlight in the mainstream media Claude Ministry of Health and the United Nations Population Fund to discuss "the protection of maternity and childhood" Claude gdit let me link tweets plurk o9" Claude MEANWHILE, according to Natalia Antelava (the BBC journalist who did the investigation and subsequently got ejected from the country), the Claude Uzbekistan government has responded to the report calling it "nothing to do with reality, purposeful libel against the country" Claude yes maybe you could tell that to the respective women who only found out they were sterile after they started bleeding mysteriously Claude "we don't know what happened to your uterus! Maybe you dropped it 8|a" focus, nerd! i actually don't understand why a goverment would logically sanction this? focus, nerd! like usually it's a method of population control or ethnic cleansing but neither of those seem to be happening? Claude talkingsoup according to the statements from people in the medical profession there does seem to be a connection to population control, as Claude well as a high possibility of it being part of a bizarre initiative to try and boost Uzbekistan's rankings in international league tables focus, nerd! buuuuut uzbekistan isn't exactly the first country you think of when you think overpopulation..... Claude in terms of infant and maternal mortality rates focus, nerd! man this is just. the weirdest fucking method for doing that focus, nerd! this is like wanting good SAT scores so you set your SAT sheets on fire... Claude Magicsocks funny, it should be open to you guys too 8<a there's signatures from the UK and Canada and France ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ Huh, I'm not seeing a way to avoid the "select a state" part... Claude oh wait hang on the FAQ says: Claude Change.org attempts to detect your country of origin based on your IP address. Claude Occasionally, we are not always able to accurately detect your country so it defaults to the U.S. form. You can always change it manually. Claude is there a small clickable link for "Outside U.S." next to the State part? 8<a Claude if not, are you using any proxies/anonymizer stuff? or try another browser Claude Lemme know how it turns out ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ Nope, not working. I'll note down the URL and try it on one of the computers at my college on Monday, though. ɠɭøøm̨ƴ ᵴʉƞɖᶏƴ You're welcome! THis needs as many signatures as possible. ikimm27 says this would be the unlikeliest place i think to see a matt smith gif...[totally unexpected!] вeyoɴceαɴdry ♔ also jsyk, the # in the url will keep the page from loading Claude thanks for the heads-up :|b Claude UPDATE: currently past the 50 signature mark, thanks all you guys <3 Claude IT IS SLOW GOING AT THE START but we've gotta keep plugging at it so don't give up :<b it's an obscure issue so there's def. less of a Claude superfast response to this kind of thing Claude but one by one we'll build it up Claude so keep spreading it to wherever you can, other forms of social media, submitting it to popular blogs, etc Claude or even just emailing people you know who would be concerned about this Claude friends, family, colleagues, contacts Claude anyone for whom the thought of having your ability to have a child with your partner ripped away by your government without consent is a ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу Would love to sign but can't since I'm outside US. I replurked though! Claude ceyly try with a different browser? :< someone else reported the same problem too, but others have been able to sign from outside the US Claude I'll submit a report to Change.org tomorrow about this and see whether they can do something to address it Claude since in theory their site should support international movement, not just US-only Claude UPDATE: currently at 80 signatures o> Claude Magicsocks iceyly - by the way if you guys could give me the info on which browser(s) you used + OS + geographical location it would help Claude in making the report to the Change.org staff about the geographical issue thing 8<b ραи∂σяα'ѕ кєу So the easiest might probably be if you could have them make the petition international or to remake it Claude iceyly the thing is that there weren't any geographical parameters to set during the making of the petition 8<a Claude I doublechecked before I put it up Claude apart from "who do you want this petition sent to", where the options are offered to tickybox the US government options, and also to manuall Claude y add names+emails+titles of others C❂in Battler signed and replurked! People should be able to choose whether or not they'll undergo things like that!! VastRaveninGoa Take and share the glory of Thor tableflipping! I don't even recall where I ganked it from myself <: Claude AWRIGHT UPDATE: 100 signatures reach GOOD JOB GUYS Claude the reporter in that video opens with how even as the debate on the War on Women in the USA rages on, similar wars are being waged in other Claude parts of the world-- and far more blatantly horrifically so marmalade The Uzbek government's record on human rights is a huge mess anyway. marmalade I mean, it's actually better now than it was about 6 years ago, when the British ambassador discovered prisoners being boiled alive, buuut. Claude magnificentbastards Yup, but it's also not a very well-noticed record compared to those of a lot of other places that get the media spot- Claude which is all the more reason that it needs to be highlighted, and pressure applied because of it, onto the decisionmakers who would otherwi Claude se prefer to make the black deal of overlooking these things "for now" because of other diplomatic/political factors Claude it's true that it might not stop them anyway, but Claude they need to at least know that people know about this, have heard about it, and Do Not Consider It Okay marmalade Oh, absolutely. And I... am hardly an expert on Uzbek international relations, so I can't say how much things are being overlooked marmalade for the sake of other factors-- I know Uzbekistan was supportive of the Bush regime after 9/11, and that was part of why its human rights marmalade violations were previously being ignored, but I'm not sure what the situation is now marmalade ...obviously this is all off-topic and the actual subject of the petition is horrific and should have attention drawn to it marmalade Also, I didn't watch the documentary, was there anything in there about why the government is sterilising women? Claude I know which is bizarre 8( I could sign things when I was in the UK, too Claude I've sent in a report to the support staff so hopefully they'll get back to me on it Claude I'm pretty sure a lot of signatures that could be on there aren't because of this problem too o9" Game Over I'm just curious but... what good is it going to do for Americans to sign a petition about something that's happening in another country? Game Over I mean the whole thing is disturbing but, it's not our country? Is the UN going to get involved? marmalade I'm pretty sure the UN could, if it's a human rights violation on the scale it allegedly is here marmalade If there are still close links between the US and Uzbek governments and this became enough of an issue, the US government could cut ties Game Over That whole thing smacks somewhat of eugenics though. I wonder what class of women are being targeted ja'far yeah, UN might be able to, depending ja'far I was surprised that this is a petition to the president instead of to something like the UN or an international agency marmalade Maybe it's aimed for the ambassador? Or maybe the person who made the petition just didn't really know what they were doing. Game Over It really should be, if they signed the UDHR. marmalade They did! But there's also a whole lot of stuff in the constitution that the Uzbek government by no means follows. at all. Game Over The UDHR isn't something the US can really enforce... Claude it's addressed to more than just the US though, from the looks of it marmalade No, but ambassadors do deal with human rights issues Game Over Three of the 8 are US based. The President, the Senate, and the House of Reps, none of those are the Ambassador. Claude Also guys I actually started the petition 8(;; and yes I was kind of finding my way through it, so I apologize for the roughness Claude I think I can still edit it to add more recipients, though, so if you guys would like to rec more people it should be sent to, please do Claude names, titles, positions, references Game Over It's just kinda weird that the UN itself isn't listed but India and China are. I just hope it gets to the right people. Because wow I would Game Over smack a bitch if anyone came at me with a scalpel Claude (at least you guys are telling me this early instead of something like 100000 signatures later, which would be a sadness) Game Over INTERESTINGLY, the exact opposite is happening in South America. Forget which country, but the girls there are like "lol nope" after one Claude By the Ambassador do you guys mean the US Ambassador to Uzbekistan or the Uzbekistan Ambassador to the US? ja'far can you try for the UN? I know they deal a lot with women's rights, even if it's all caught up in bureaucracy marmalade Oh, sorry for inadvertently kind of insulting you there ja'far and mmm I would say both marmalade Uh, I would say the US ambassador to Uzbekistan ja'far lean towards the American one though marmalade just because there is a precedent of foreign ambassadors to Uzbekistan having an impact on the human rights situation Game Over I'd just plop down both for redundancy's sake. The more people it gets out to the better. Game Over As long as the US's reps are listed might as well include the UK's too. Agent P And of course see if you can make this open to all to sign. Claude I'm learning!! it's a learning experience marmalade Okay. I probably could have phrased it better though! But yeah. Claude good thing there doesn't appear to be a limit on the number of people this can be sent to Claude (or possibly haven't hit it yet) Claude offduty: Change.org actually has the US reps specially easily entered into the list of recipients (you just have to check ticky boxes for Claude State, Federal categories, etc), whereas other recipients have to be manually input Claude I'm not so familiar with UK reps but if you could recommend some that would be a great start while I work on getting ambassador info :<b marmalade Oh, uh... the UK ambassador to Uzbekistan at the moment is called Rupert Joy, but he's coming to the end of his term afaik marmalade Apart from that all I can think would be the House of Commons Game Over Plurk is telling me I've been spamming, which I haven't. Otherwise I'd give you some links Claude ok I just added the US and UK ambassadors (George Krol and Rupert Joy). Next.... Claude let's see, UN contacts :|a Claude or wait right the Uzbekistan ambassadors to those places too Claude Alright, added the Uzbekistan ambassadors to the US and UK, as well as to the UN Women's Regional Director to Central Asia, and the Claude UN Women Gender Advisor to Uzbekistan Claude ...also added Norbert Jousten, EU Ambassador to Uzbekistan Claude man, why didn't I add this before Claude offduty hmm , the DFID doesn't actually work in Uzbekistan so I'm not sure about contacting them 8<a Game Over I gave what I had. It's up to you to decide on it. Claude right, added UK Foreign Secretary William Hague to it Claude UPDATE: 125 signatures!!! Claude so if anyone uses those platforms and would like to spread the word further, there's things to reblog from there Claude offduty The thing is that the Change.org system is set up so you can actually just check ticky boxes to send stuff out to the US State/ Claude There's a text transcript of the audio interview Claude "The doctors I talked to have said that they do receive direct orders from their bosses, the heads of hospitals, the heads of local Claude administration and get these government quotas on how many women they need to sterilize each month."